UK, EU leaders to meet face-to-face to try to seal Brexit trade deal

[luckyluke]

24 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Who goes first, Lord?

Do you mean Lord Frost ?

Or is this another " hilarious" joke?

[robblok]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_United_Kingdom

 

Studying this list would wake those Brexiteers up a bit.  The EU is 48% of the UK its trade.

 

US is 14,5% 

 

So good luck with your trade if you get a bad deal from those two countries. There is no way that that is NOT negative.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46612362

 

Fact are facts. I doubt many will read the articles.

[Susco]

14 minutes ago, nauseus said:

3 hours ago, Susco said:

 

It is indeed not a massive tumble, though it is a DECLINE, where you spread the false news, like most Brexiteers do, that it had climbed by 0.64% against the dollar.

 

Quite a difference isn't it, and it shows how delusional the Brexiteers actually are

 

It's one day with about a 0.008 spread from start to finish. What are you on about?

 

You know very well what I'm on about, but unfortunately I can't make blind people see.

 

You see a 0.008 spread, while I see a significant larger spread, and the poster I was replying to saw a 0.64% increase in value.

[transam]

1 minute ago, Mavideol said:

correct, the real reason for Brexit it's England Proudness nothing else and their argument over an insignificant fishing issue is the prefect example

You are just another who is wound up with some sort of perceived Brit grandiar, it really is incredibly childish...????

[soalbundy]

4 minutes ago, transam said:

Think you will find UK pensioners already have to pay for dentures, or part of, my 85 year old mum did...

yes but they could afford to then. I believe it was a conservative MP who objected to the forming of the NHS with the words, "Here's a pretty picture, free dentures and nowt to bite on".

According to Reuters 1.2 trillion pounds in trading assets have moved from the UK to the EU with the trading houses, the city is waiting nervously to see what the big American trading houses will do, it's a no brainer, in the event of a no deal they will be off to Dublin, Paris, Frankfurt and Amsterdam, that's a lot of jobs (estimated at one million) and a lot of tax money.

[Mavideol]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

 

Wrong, But you're getting warmer.

do you prefer Aloofness or Braggadocio maybe it fits better 555

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, Mavideol said:

do you prefer Aloofness or Braggadocio maybe it fits better 555

Cappuccino actually.

[nauseus]

4 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

You know very well what I'm on about, but unfortunately I can't make blind people see.

 

You see a 0.008 spread, while I see a significant larger spread, and the poster I was replying to saw a 0.64% increase in value.

 

Kwasaki's rates were wrong but even so 0.64% is not a tumble. 6.4% is.

 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

yes but they could afford to then. I believe it was a conservative MP who objected to the forming of the NHS with the words, "Here's a pretty picture, free dentures and nowt to bite on".

According to Reuters 1.2 trillion pounds in trading assets have moved from the UK to the EU with the trading houses, the city is waiting nervously to see what the big American trading houses will do, it's a no brainer, in the event of a no deal they will be off to Dublin, Paris, Frankfurt and Amsterdam, that's a lot of jobs (estimated at one million) and a lot of tax money.

We can all speculate, I could speculate that some EU countries may be paying a lot more to its Oliver Twist neighbours....

[vogie]

3 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

do you prefer Aloofness or Braggadocio maybe it fits better 555

D'Artagnan was my favourite.????????

[Laughing Gravy]

5 minutes ago, robblok said:

Agreed you Brexit is done.

Finally progress. Please pass that on to Macron who would like the extension kept going for a hundred years and the contributions of course.

5 minutes ago, robblok said:

Not agreed on how good Brexit is I dare you to find one economic article telling that the UK its trade is better without the EU then with. Please find it .

This is the main point. Without a crystal ball nobody knows as it will take time when the UK finally leaves and trades with the majority counties other than the EU. You constantly read of what the UK will lose from leaving the EU and yes that is fact. It is also fact the EU will lose some. Until time, when the UK trades outside of the EU your article is only conjecture and not fact.

8 minutes ago, robblok said:

Just for your information Yes they can trade with Africa. But the whole of Africa for instance does not have the same GDP as Germany. So your map is nice, but total BS as it does not depict trading power or GDP.

I guess you just don't see it. Never mind.

 

9 minutes ago, robblok said:

do agree it gets boring if you made a mistake and are constantly reminded what a fool you were and you cant prove you were not a fool. Kinda like the Brexiteers. So I get your frustration

The only thing that gets boring is non Brits telling us what we should do and what we shouldn't. What is better for us and what isn't. it is patronising and disingenuous.

 

How would you feel if all of a sudden someone thinks they are the resident expert on British life and politics because they read the Guardian and watch PM question time and they are not British. The credibility is weal with your statements like the one below.

11 minutes ago, robblok said:

You know you made a wrong choice hate to admit it get pointed that you did. 

As someone who has wanted to leave the EEC/EU ever since I can vote your words are ridiculous and conceived as rude. So that statement is not only childish but quite idiotic. I have a different point of view from yours.

 

I am looking forward to the UK becoming more patriotic and buying British over EU products.

 

You should be more concerned about Holland but I wouldn't be so arrogant to tell you what to do, think and what mistakes you have made, unlike...  you continually do.

 

No doubt you will come back with some trash about this or that. I will save you some time. We have left the EU and will will prosper as a country outside of the EU. We will save money on contributions and in a few years will be celebrating that we broke free. Other countries will be envious that they didn't have the strength and courage to do the same.

[Mavideol]

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Cappuccino actually.

Truth hurts doesn't it

[soalbundy]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

We can all speculate, I could speculate that some EU countries may be paying a lot more to its Oliver Twist neighbours....

Be careful with that arrogance, the UK isn't to far away from asking "please sir can I have some more" and that is during the transition phase.

Edited December 8, 2020 by soalbundy

[Mavideol]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

D'Artagnan was my favourite.????????

Truth hurts doesn't it thus easy to deflect from topic same as @nauseus did

[transam]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

D'Artagnan was my favourite.????????

My hero too.....????

 

 

 

[vogie]

Just now, Mavideol said:

Truth hurts doesn't it thus easy to deflect from topic same as @nauseus did

You were the one that brought the Three Muskiteers into it.

[transam]

5 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Finally progress. Please pass that on to Macron who would like the extension kept going for a hundred years and the contributions of course.

This is the main point. Without a crystal ball nobody knows as it will take time when the UK finally leaves and trades with the majority counties other than the EU. You constantly read of what the UK will lose from leaving the EU and yes that is fact. It is also fact the EU will lose some. Until time, when the UK trades outside of the EU your article is only conjecture and not fact.

I guess you just don't see it. Never mind.

 

The only thing that gets boring is non Brits telling us what we should do and what we shouldn't. What is better for us and what isn't. it is patronising and disingenuous.

 

How would you feel if all of a sudden someone thinks they are the resident expert on British life and politics because they read the Guardian and watch PM question time and they are not British. The credibility is weal with your statements like the one below.

As someone who has wanted to leave the EEC/EU ever since I can vote your words are ridiculous and conceived as rude. So that statement is not only childish but quite idiotic. I have a different point of view from yours.

 

I am looking forward to the UK becoming more patriotic and buying British over EU products.

 

You should be more concerned about Holland but I wouldn't be so arrogant to tell you what to do, think and what mistakes you have made, unlike...  you continually do.

 

No doubt you will come back with some trash about this or that. I will save you some time. We have left the EU and will will prosper as a country outside of the EU. We will save money on contributions and in a few years will be celebrating that we broke free. Other countries will be envious that they didn't have the strength and courage to do the same.

Excellent....

[soalbundy]

Just now, transam said:

My hero too.....????

 

 

 

but, but they're French!

[Susco]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

 

Kwasaki's rates were wrong but even so 0.64% is not a tumble. 6.4% is.

 

 

Be patient, a 6.4 tumble didn't happen yet, just wait for it. It has tumbled already about 25% against the Euro since the UK started their mickey mouse show, and you ain't seen nothing yet

[transam]

5 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Be careful with that arrogance, the UK isn't to far away from asking "please sir can I have some more" and that is during the transition phase.

Arrogance, you've got some front, a Brit that eloped to Germany.....????

[Susco]

10 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

The only thing that gets boring is non Brits telling us what we should do and what we shouldn't. What is better for us and what isn't. it is patronising and disingenuous.

 

In case you hadn't noticed yet, in this Brexit joke there are 2 parties involved, UK and EU, and last time I checked Netherlands is part of the EU

[transam]

3 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

but, but they're French!

My ancestors were Normans.......????

[melvinmelvin]

13 minutes ago, transam said:

My hero too.....????

 

 

 

 

d'Art-- the tall one in the middle?

 

more suprised re Robert Plant (on the right) being there . . .

 

[Laughing Gravy]

6 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

In case you hadn't noticed yet, in this Brexit joke there are 2 parties involved, UK and EU, and last time I checked Netherlands is part of the EU

Another arrogant jibe with 'Brexit Joke.' That democratic referendum which was won by the leave campaign has been debated on here by myself and a good few others since 2015. Some have changed their names for whatever reason to conceal their identities.

 

The said poster has only recently come on these threads with his expert opinions. Having an opinion is one thing but telling others they are wrong, they have made a tragic mistakes,  and they will suffer is another.  It is arrogant, misguided and speculation.

 

You would think that it is affecting him personally or any other non Brit.

 

As usual Non Brits on here keep going on about the UK leaving the EU. Well I don't care and many others don't. What is a joke is the EU masquerading as a democratic entity, when it is not. I am sure like others you will say the EU has its problems. That's the usual but nothing gets done.

 

Some countries don't get to have a democratic referendum and see it through. They have to have another one until the right vote gets done.

 

So when people start belittling a democracy like Brexit is, then it shows the character of a person they are and frankly I find it rude and offensive. Disagree with it that's fine. Calling a democratic vote a name shows the level of intellect a person has.

[Laughing Gravy]

44 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

That's a lousy map, Gravy. But at least the EU is not visible. ????

It was but as many posters on here don't realise that there are many more countries outside of the EU, a crappy atlas might just work.????

[transam]

27 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

d'Art-- the tall one in the middle?

 

more suprised re Robert Plant (on the right) being there . . .

 

Weeeel, there was no way I was going to find a photo of the real ones...Even if there are now sitting in the EU parliament...????

[Kwasaki]

45 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

In case you hadn't noticed yet, in this Brexit joke there are 2 parties involved, UK and EU, and last time I checked Netherlands is part of the EU

Oh!  Please come on board the pot smoking,  tip toeing through the Tulips and full of Dykes country had never been taken seriously .???? ????

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Oh!  Please come on board the pot smoking,  tip toeing through the Tulips and full of Dykes country had never been taken seriously .????????

That reminded me of the Harry Enfield sketch.....

[Susco]

31 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

It was but as many posters on here don't realise that there are many more countries outside of the EU, a crappy atlas might just work.????

 

Yep many more countries outside the EU, and the UK has a trade deal with them.

 

Here are the big names ???? . I'm sure they soon will add Zimbabwe, Nigeria and Biafra as well.

 

• Andean countries
• CARIFORUM trade bloc
• Central America
• Chile
• Eastern and Southern Africa (ESA) trade bloc 
• Faroe Islands
• Georgia
• Iceland and Norway
• Israel
• Jordan
• Kosovo
• Lebanon
• Liechtenstein
• Morocco
• Pacific states
• Palestinian Authority
• Southern Africa Customs Union and Mozambique (SACUM) trade bloc
• South Korea
• Switzerland
• Tunisia

 

And a few more they are considering, but even may not suceed.

 

Country or bloc	Nature of agreement	Status of discussions	Percentage of total UK trade, 2018
Albania (Western Balkans)	Association agreement	Engagement ongoing	0.00%
Algeria	Association agreement	Engagement ongoing (agreement unlikely before exit day)	0.21%
Andorra	Customs union	Will not be signed for exit day	0.00%
San Marino	Customs union	Will not be signed for exit day	0.00%
Bosnia & Herzegovina (Western Balkans)	Association agreement	Engagement ongoing	0.01%
Cameroon (Central Africa)	Economic partnership agreement	Engagement ongoing	0.01%
Canada	Free trade agreement	Engagement ongoing	1.44%
Côte d’Ivoire	Economic partnership agreement	Engagement ongoing	0.03%
Egypt	Association agreement	Engagement ongoing	0.24%
Ghana (Western Africa)	Economic partnership agreement	Engagement ongoing	0.10%
Japan	Free trade agreement	Engagement ongoing (agreement will not be transitioned before exit day)	2.21%
Kenya (EAC)	Economic partnership agreement	Engagement ongoing	0.12%
Mexico	Free trade agreement	Engagement ongoing	0.35%
Moldova	Association agreement	Engagement ongoing	0.04%
Montenegro (Western Balkans)	Stabilisation and association agreement	Engagement ongoing	0.01%
North Macedonia (Western Balkans)	Association agreement	Engagement ongoing	0.11%
Serbia (Western Balkans)	Association agreement	Engagement ongoing	0.05%
Turkey	Customs union	Will not be signed for exit day	1.29%
Ukraine	Association agreement	Engagement ongoing	0.10%

Edited December 8, 2020 by Susco

[2530Ubon]

1 hour ago, transam said:

I just knew you would not answer an outright fact.....????

 

Lets try again from a different angle, you do keep going on about Boris lies and Brexit.

FOUR YEARS latter, Boris asked the UK populace via a General Election if he should carry on with his Brexit campaign.

1. Now you tell me, did the populace give him the go ahead to continue...YES or NO....

2. Did the populace back the Lib Dems who would have trashed Brexit outright...YES or NO...

 

 

I can answer that quite easily. NO. The election was not about the EU and Brexit. Brexit was already completed.