UK and EU reach Brexit trade deal

[david555]

1 minute ago, transam said:

Oh dear, Haggis could be off your menu then......????

it was never on my menu .... as i never visit U.K. , and it goes about export it out in non frozen status ....

I shall try it once ..... as celebration as the Scotts independence is a done deal ...????

[transam]

11 minutes ago, david555 said:

it was never on my menu .... as i never visit U.K. , and it goes about export it out in non frozen status ....

I shall try it once ..... as celebration as the Scotts independence is a done deal ...????

Hmmmm, then it looks like cod & chips for you....????

[Rimmer]

Some off topic posts have been removed topic is about:

 

UK and EU reach Brexit trade deal

[Laughing Gravy]

8 hours ago, luckyluke said:

 

Sorry, I have to retract this. 

 

On the list of Corruption Perception Index, only 8 countries, member of the E.U., are categorized as less corrupt than the U.K.. 

 

The others more. 

 

I don't find any data about the E.U. as entity. 

 

I did a search and found numerous sites that confirm the corruption in the EU.  And it is not even a perception.????

[transam]

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And turnips, don’t forget the turnips.

 

Though who will harvest them is anybody’s guess.

Machines....????

[Sujo]

14 minutes ago, transam said:

Machines....????

Strange response.

 

If machines were economically viable they would already be used. Im sure you are happy with increased prices because of this.

 

[IvorBiggun2]

1 minute ago, Sujo said:

If machines were economically viable they would already be used. Im sure you are happy with increased prices because of this.

As they say 'Swings and Roundabouts'.

[luckyluke]

15 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

I did a search and found numerous sites that confirm the corruption in the EU.  And it is not even a perception.????

No doubt, on the Net there is food for everyone.

I found some about corruption in the U.K., not convinced that they are that credible.

That there is corruption, sure, the U.K. is number 12 in the list I posted previously.

Of course it is up to you if you want to believe unconditionally the sites claiming the corruption in the E.U..

Also here I believe there is corruption to a certain degree, as I believe there is some everywhere, in everything, politics is involved.

[transam]

12 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Strange response.

 

If machines were economically viable they would already be used. Im sure you are happy with increased prices because of this.

 

I don't think you know anything about modern cultivation, google is your friend....????

 

 

 

[david555]

29 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

No doubt, on the Net there is food for everyone.

I found some about corruption in the U.K., not convinced that they are that credible.

That there is corruption, sure, the U.K. is number 12 in the list I posted previously.

Of course it is up to you if you want to believe unconditionally the sites claiming the corruption in the E.U..

Also here I believe there is corruption to a certain degree, as I believe there is some everywhere, in everything, politics is involved.

Probably the oligarchs from Russia "activity" in the city is not considered as corruption ....as it is "only" called  money laundering.... 555

Edited December 30, 2020 by david555

[Rimmer]

Off topic troll post removed also a copyright Getty image

[sandyf]

23 hours ago, vogie said:

RAF Salalah?

No Sharjah, I worked on a Wessex squadron.

[sandyf]

23 hours ago, vogie said:

What a load of codswallop, we didn't invade The Oman, we were there on invite from The Sultanate of Oman, Sultan Qaboos. 

What is the way of Holyrood, Mrs Sturgeon saying a 'no deal' would ruin Scottish business and when we get a deal she is going to vote for a 'no deal' what a joke she is, but hey, let us blame all our problems on Westminster, code word for 'english'

The codswallop was you with roads and dominance.

Call it what you like, the English voted to leave a union, the Scots voted to remain in that union. The Scots now have every right to vote on leaving a union.

[vogie]

8 minutes ago, sandyf said:

The codswallop was you with roads and dominance.

Call it what you like, the English voted to leave a union, the Scots voted to remain in that union. The Scots now have every right to vote on leaving a union.

 

9 minutes ago, sandyf said:

The codswallop was you with roads and dominance.

Call it what you like, the English voted to leave a union, the Scots voted to remain in that union. The Scots now have every right to vote on leaving a union.

Scotland was never in the union, it was the UK that was in the union and the UK voted to leave the union.

[sandyf]

3 hours ago, transam said:

Oh dear, Haggis could be off your menu then......????

There shouldn't be any uncooked meat in haggis, the pluck is cooked before the mix is created.

Haggis is banned in the US because it contains lung.

[sandyf]

3 minutes ago, vogie said:

 

Scotland was never in the union, it was the UK that was in the union and the UK voted to leave the union.

Only you could claim the people of Scotland voted to leave the EU.

As I said previously, Westminster dominance prevails.

[vogie]

7 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Only you could claim the people of Scotland voted to leave the EU.

As I said previously, Westminster dominance prevails.

I really don't know how to make this more understandable Sandy, Scotland did not, repeat, did not have a vote it was the United Kingdom that voted for leaving. My next next door neighbour Ted voted to remain, should the rest of us left and let Ted remain. 

The SNP voted to leave the EU in 2014, because if the SNP had garnered enough votes to break up our UK union, had you won that vote, you would be the ones leaving the EU, you didn't care about the rest of the UK then did you.

[transam]

17 minutes ago, vogie said:

 

Scotland was never in the union, it was the UK that was in the union and the UK voted to leave the union.

Isn't it strange that some here still don't understand that...????

[Sujo]

6 minutes ago, vogie said:

I really don't know how to make this more understandable Sandy, Scotland did not, repeat, did not have a vote it was the United Kingdom that voted for leaving. My next next door neighbour Ted voted to remain, should the rest of us left and let Ted remain. 

The SNP voted to leave the EU in 2014, because if the SNP had garnered enough votes to break up our UK union, had you won that vote, you would be the ones leaving the EU, you didn't care about the rest of the UK then did you.

Then thats a bit stupid. Is the uk a country?

 

Olympics its gb. Comm games its each separate country.

 

Time to make up their mind what they are.

Edited December 30, 2020 by Sujo

[vogie]

1 minute ago, Sujo said:

Then thats a bit stupid. Is the uk a country?

 

The UK is an island nation, and that said island nation voted to leave the EU.

[transam]

8 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Then thats a bit stupid. Is the uk a country?

 

Olympics its gb. Comm games its each separate country.

 

Time to make up their mind what they are.

We know what we are, seems just you don't.....????

[Hi from France]

interesting day with the votes in the UK parliament

 

 

 

 

 

 

[david555]

18 minutes ago, Hi from France said:

interesting day with the votes in the UK parliament

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess that shall become Boris second U-turn  as with his bill, after he did beat Santa Claus  in attention this Christmas.

[nausea]

Who cares, the volatility is over. Now I can, personally, make some plans for the future. The havoc this has caused to businesses one can only imagine. But, of course, one thing ends another starts, I'm thinking Covid 19. When that will end is anyone's guess.

[david555]

 ( In second paragraphed the threat starts.... i am curious how long this deal can stand ...????  )

 

 

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1377971/brexit-news-erg-threat-prime-minister-boris-johnson-fishing-deal-eu-spt

ERG issued hidden threat to PM over Brexit fishing betrayal despite backing deal
ERG Brexiteers left a veiled threat to a Prime Minister who could betray the UK's fishermen despite throwing their support behind Boris Johnson's Brexit deal.

By CHARLIE BRADLEY
PUBLISHED: 09:32, Wed, Dec 30, 2020 | UPDATED: 09:53, Wed, Dec 30, 2020

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has secured a free trade agreement with the EU, and the deal is likely to be voted through in the House of Commons today. Sir Keir Starmer has been critical of the agreement, but says Labour will support it to avoid a no deal Brexit. Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP will oppose it, but Mr Johnson has secured the support of a key group in Parliament – the European Research Group (ERG). The group of eurosceptic MPs within the Conservative Party convened a so-called "star chamber" of legal advisers to scrutinise the Prime Minister's deal.

 

They concluded that it does protect UK sovereignty on issues such as fishing and regulatory divergence and will therefore support the agreement. However, notes from the ERG's meeting expose a veiled threat directed towards Downing Street, meaning Mr Johnson could face renewed backlash from his own party if he fails to deliver on his Brexit promises.

 

The ERG alluded to how the UK can modify rules later down the line if it wants to, as long as the modifications do not discriminate between British and EU vessels. They also concluded that by 2026 “the UK will have the legal right to take full control of its waters”, but acknowledge that this is “dependent on the preparedness and robustness of the UK Government”. This is a clear warning from the ERG to Mr Johnson or any potential successor, as they seek to make sure the UK seizes more control over fishing grounds once the opportunity arises.
 

Edited December 30, 2020 by david555

[candide]

1 hour ago, Hi from France said:

interesting day with the votes in the UK parliament

 

 

 

 

 

 

That sums it up! A big win for UK! ????

[david555]

6 minutes ago, candide said:

That sums it up! A big win for UK! ????

SSStttt..... they did not signed yet ....????    

[kingdong]

7 hours ago, transam said:

Oh dear, Haggis could be off your menu then......????

They can still have curried goat.

[Susco]

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/netscape-mentioned-in-brexit-deal-6872098

 

Officials accused of copying and pasting chunks of text into Brexit deal agreement

 

Experts have spotted buried within page 921 of the UK-EU trade document references to dated computer software in the agreement which are decades old.

Referencing encryption technology, it mentions Mozilla Mail and Netscape Communicator as "modern e-mail software package" - last updated in 2002.

It also recommends the use of SHA-1 as a "hash algorithm" despite the fact it was depreciated in 2011.

[kingdong]

7 hours ago, luckyluke said:

Why do you think you get not fooled again with the deal ?

Because Mr. Johnson proclaimed it was a victory ?

Because we,re independent of the eu now and not bound by their laws and rules,democracy prevailed,would have thought europe would have appreciated that when one looks back 70 years still up to them.how long before the citizens of the eu will want a vote after observing the uks success?we walked out and still got the trade deal we wanted,i,ll give the eu 5 years perhaps sooner due to corona before it go,es down the gurgler,well would love to sit here conversing with you longer but have to have my covid vaccination.