Britain says it will sign free trade deal with Turkey this week

[JonnyF]

5 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Great news for the Scots? They want out as they are sponsoring the UK by a lot.

 

Not last time they were asked.

 

[FritsSikkink]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

 

Not last time they were asked.

 

That was when they got a great deal of hollow promises, which have all been broken (one of them we will stay in the EU). Now there is a majority who is fed up with the lies and want out.

[overherebc]

56 minutes ago, transam said:

It's "Great Britain" now chap, even on new passports ......????

 

 

 

But is it black or blue?

True story.

Just after the EU passports were issued I flew into India. About 6 passengers had the EU passports, the rest had the 'big' blue ones.

Passengers ( 6 ) with the EU passports were sent to one side, almost refused entry by Indian Imm'

Airline staff had to make a few frantic phones to the nearest Brit embassy to assure the Indian Imm' that the EU passports were genuine. Took about 2 hours of our time hanging about wating for them to get through.

[transam]

6 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

That was when they got a great deal of hollow promises, which have all been broken (one of them we will stay in the EU). Now there is a majority who is fed up with the lies and want out.

Really, well I hope all Scots watched the video below......Oh, and yourself, nooooo short cuts, watch it all if you haven't already...????

 

 

[evadgib]

9 minutes ago, overherebc said:

But is it black or blue?

True story.

Just after the EU passports were issued I flew into India. About 6 passengers had the EU passports, the rest had the 'big' blue ones.

Passengers ( 6 ) with the EU passports were sent to one side, almost refused entry by Indian Imm'

Airline staff had to make a few frantic phones to the nearest Brit embassy to assure the Indian Imm' that the EU passports were genuine. Took about 2 hours of our time hanging about wating for them to get through.

I had a similar experience in reverse at my local imm office during a recent extn renewal when my new passport was the first blue one they had seen.

Edited December 28, 2020 by evadgib

[JonnyF]

10 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

That was when they got a great deal of hollow promises, which have all been broken (one of them we will stay in the EU). Now there is a majority who is fed up with the lies and want out.

Based on a few dodgy polls?

 

They will need to wait a few years and see how Brexit turns out. The 45% who voted to Leave the UK might be pleasantly surprised.

 

I predict a larger Remain vote in the unlikely event they are asked again.

[overherebc]

7 minutes ago, evadgib said:

I had a similar experience in reverse at my local imm office during a recent extn renewal when my new passport was the first blue one they had seen.

Me thinks you won't be the last.

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[Thingamabob]

Many one on one trade deals in the pipeline. Watch this space.

[Kwasaki]

3 hours ago, simple1 said:

How does the OP or indeed any other trade deal to date demonstrate UK has 'bested' the EU?

Well if you don't know I'm not interested in going into how,  depends how you see it 62 arrangements made already leading up to a leave deal and Turkey first to sign up with. 

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, transam said:

Really, well I hope all Scots watched the video below......Oh, and yourself, nooooo short cuts, watch it all if you haven't already...????

 

 

That sums up nicely Scotlands position, they been with England through thick and thin I personally see it daft them wanting independence.

[puipuitom]

A trade deal even a monkey can negotiate. MY question, as a food trader, would be: is it the same as we had as EU member, or.. where is it worse / better.  I thought this was one of the reasons, why the UK wanted out of the EU shackles, as they could do all indefinitely better.

This aside of cancelng their sold fishing rights without any payment back, and keeping foreign workers out to pick their strawberries etc.

[puipuitom]

5 hours ago, luckyluke said:

 

Why do you claim the U.K. is a Pariah State!

 

In reality it is,

 

the 5-6th. largest economy in the world, and second-largest in Europe.

 

It isn't worthwhile news to state that a country wish to do business with it.

 

News would be, that a country doesn't wish to do business with the U.K..

Again somebody who still does not understand the EU is one big economic and industrial block, where you cannot speak of "countries" anymore. See the NL-D border inside the office of the Euro-business center... Even the currency is the same.

[puipuitom]

5 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I think you misunderstood my point.

 

I was ridiculing the position of certain posters on here that were claiming Britain would be alone in the world and nobody would want to trade with us.

Everybody wants to trade with everybody. The big question is: on which conditions. And especially asked : better as till 31 dec 2020 ?

[puipuitom]

5 hours ago, transam said:

It's "Great Britain" now chap, even on new passports ......????

 

Just a few months and then it is "Kingdom of England and Wales".

[puipuitom]

5 hours ago, billd766 said:

Because the deal with Turkey just involves the UK and Turkey only.

 

If we were still in the EU we wouldn't be involved as it is the business of the EU to deal with an agreement and anyone of the 28, very soon to be 27, countries can veto the deal.

???

 

Turkey was one of the first countries, in 1959, to seek close cooperation with the young European Economic Community (EEC). This cooperation was realized in the framework of an “association agreement”, known as the Ankara Agreement, which was signed on 12 September 1963. An important element in this plan was establishing a “Customs Union” so that Turkey could trade goods and agricultural products with EEC countries without restrictions.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union–Turkey_relations

[simple1]

2 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Well if you don't know I'm not interested in going into how,  depends how you see it 62 arrangements made already leading up to a leave deal and Turkey first to sign up with. 

 

As another member posted, let's see how UK trade is tracking say in five years time before making claims of 'besting' the EU on trade relationships.

 

For those interested a list of UK current trade agreements, pending etc as of 24/12/2020 at URL below:

 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-trade-agreements-with-non-eu-countries

Edited December 28, 2020 by simple1

[Mavideol]

6 hours ago, transam said:

It's "Great Britain" now chap, even on new passports ......????

 

 

 

why Great Britain and Northern Ireland, isn't Northern Ireland already part of the UK, it should simply say United Kingdom of Great Britain, the majority of people will know the United Kingdom of Great Britain has Northern Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales, can't remember if IOM is part of the Kingdom, 

[luckyluke]

38 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Again somebody who still does not understand the EU.....

 

Well I believe Wikipedia, they have a notable reputation till now.

I you know better (and of course you may ),

 you should start something similar, people may one day refer to you instead of to Wiki.

 

 

[stevenl]

29 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

why Great Britain and Northern Ireland, isn't Northern Ireland already part of the UK, it should simply say United Kingdom of Great Britain, the majority of people will know the United Kingdom of Great Britain has Northern Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales, can't remember if IOM is part of the Kingdom, 

Northern Ireland is part of United Kingdom, not of Great Britain.

[Pattaya Spotter]

The EU for Turkey...sounds like a good trade to me.

[Susco]

6 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

The EU for Turkey...sounds like a good trade to me.

 

Of course, who wouldn't want a trade deal with a dictator who every day gets more isolated

[Nout]

14 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Doing a deal with the devil in Erdogan is not something to brag about unless we have sold him some porkpies ????

We trade with all kinds of 'devils'..including Saudi and China but note we are trading with Turkey NOT GIVING free right of entry and freedom of movement to every Turkish citizen. Brexit is paying off already.

[7by7]

10 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

???? it's peculiar how much some people hate the UK getting the best of the EU. 

 

All the deals Truss has announced are either, like this Turkish one, roll overs of existing EU deals or, such as the Japanese one, merely the crumbs the EU didn't want; Is the UK's trade deal with Japan better than the EU's?

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For example, the UK reportedly wanted to receive quotas for some agricultural products which could be exported with a lower tariff than normal. Instead the UK will be able to use whatever’s left over from the EU’s quota with Japan

(7by7 emphasis)

 

Truss ignored this and wouldn't answer when questioned, in the House, by letter and a written Parliamentary question, until she could no longer do so because of the evidence from her own department: Watch – Liz Truss won’t explain difference between her Japan trade deal and existing EU one

 

Your claim that we're "getting the best (sic) of the EU" in these deals has little, if any, basis in fact.

[Nout]

14 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

Of course, who wouldn't want a trade deal with a dictator who every day gets more isolated

Get real. We trade with every dictatorship in the Arab world and the the most heinous dictatorship ever known - The Chinese Communist party plus a host of corrupt African despots.

[Nout]

4 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

All the deals Truss has announced are either, like this Turkish one, roll overs of existing EU deals or, such as the Japanese one, merely the crumbs the EU didn't want; Is the UK's trade deal with Japan better than the EU's?

 

Truss ignored this and wouldn't answer when questioned, in the House, by letter and a written Parliamentary question, until she could no longer do so because of the evidence from her own department: Watch – Liz Truss won’t explain difference between her Japan trade deal and existing EU one

 

Your claim that we're "getting the best (sic) of the EU" in these deals has little, if any, basis in fact.

The difference is that we are not bound in the future by EU rules.

[7by7]

7 hours ago, transam said:

It's "Great Britain" now chap, even on new passports ......????

 

 

 

 

Great Britain is a geographical term, not a political one; as is Northern Ireland. The political term for my country is, as it says on the passport, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

 

It's always said that on British passports, even the red ones!

[7by7]

1 minute ago, Nout said:

The difference is that we are not bound in the future by EU rules.

 

Indeed; we are bound by whatever the rules of each particular agreement are; which in all the roll over ones are the same as those in the EU ones! 

[7by7]

7 hours ago, transam said:

What claim, nothing is sorted yet, it is the UK's new beginning, so hold your horses chap, come back in about five years.....????

 

You are criticising the wrong person; it was Kwasaki who claimed that we are now

10 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

getting the best of the EU. 

 

 

[7by7]

1 hour ago, Mavideol said:

why Great Britain and Northern Ireland, isn't Northern Ireland already part of the UK, it should simply say United Kingdom of Great Britain, the majority of people will know the United Kingdom of Great Britain has Northern Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales, can't remember if IOM is part of the Kingdom, 

 

As I say above, Great Britain and Northern Ireland are geographical terms. The United Kingdom is the political union of the four countries making up these geographical areas.

 

The Isle of Man and the Channel Islands are Crown Dependencies and not part of the UK.

[puipuitom]

45 minutes ago, Nout said:

We trade with all kinds of 'devils'..including Saudi and China but note we are trading with Turkey NOT GIVING free right of entry and freedom of movement to every Turkish citizen. Brexit is paying off already.

? ? ?

Turks need a visa when they want to enter the EU.  

 

Background ENG TASAR FINAL KAPAKSIZ (ikv.org.tr)

TOBB (Union of Chambers and Commodity Exchanges of Turkey) have frequently brought up the grave problems related with the visa requirements imposed on the Turkish citizens in their visits to the EU Member States