Popular Post internationalism Posted January 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) from some news wire: "Several private hospitals are reported to rush to order Covid-19 vaccines to accommodate the wealthy. A number of private hospitals such as the Bangkok Dusit Medical Services (BDMS), Bangkok Chain Hospital Plc (BCH), Thonburi Healthcare Group (THG), Bumrungrad Hospital Plc (BH) and Vibhavadi Medical Center Plc (VIBHA). However, these hospitals cannot import Covid-19 vaccines directly but must seek orders with agencies or representatives of vaccine producers. Pijit Viriyamettakul, managing director of VIBHA, said VIBHA had pre-ordered 50,000-60,000 doses of Covid-19 vaccines from Moderna. It expects the vaccines to arrive in February 2021 and must be approved by the Food and Drug Administration before giving jabs to the general public. It plans to charge 6,000-10,000 baht per person, Pijit said. This week, Deputy Prime Minister and Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul said the government is not blocking the private sector from importing a Covid-19 vaccine but he wants them to follow the safety review process in every step." Personally I would do vax before the third wave. March is too late to get for the second wave. Vax will be constantly modified, depending on new strains. Takes some 6 weeks to tweak them and make in quantity Edited January 9, 2021 by internationalism 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacherclaire Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, tomazbodner said: Wonder if you'd say that if Chantaburi bats' virus caused the next pandemic... Vaccine should not be produced by Thailand, but Thailand should pay for vaccine for all 7+ billion people on the Planet.... ? Do you really believe the bat soup ( or soap opera) story? In Wuhan are class 4 laboratories that do "researches" with high risk viruses, including the Coronavirus. A coincidence? I don't think so. https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/covid-19-made-in-wuhan-lab-controlled-by-china-govt-claims-virologist-offers-evidence/story-JJTyD7Ts61FLOzPvEQHHQL.html 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thomas J Posted January 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, George Aylesham said: Possibly a shorter one if you get COVID19! And possibly a shorter one if you catch Malaria, TB, Dengue Fever, Hepatitis, or Sepsis. You are more likely to die from being on the Thailand roads driving to the clinic to get your Covid vaccine than you are from catching Covid. 97% recovery rate, 95% without any hospitalization required. The media is hyping Covid as if it is equivalent to being diagnosed with stage 5 pancreatic cancer. Any person who has significant health problems and contracts any disease is substantially more at risk for complications and death. If a person with significant health problems goes into the hospital and catches Sepsis while being treated they are at significant risk for death. If they caught TB while in the hospital, they are at significant risk for death. Stop treating Covid as if it is any more lethal than many other diseases. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinca tinca Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, mtls2005 said: Stay tuned. Or go home and get a vaccination? Vaccinations will be available here for foreigners. The cost is said to be reasonable. so JUST how much IS REASONABLE????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, at15 said: How about this, forget a vaccine exists and move on with your life. Get some sun for a hit of vitamin D, exercise, eat right, and remember Bobby McFaren's advice: "Don't worry; Be Happy. The Thai government via Immigration will inform you when you'll be require to scrounge up a covid jabby. By that point any government hospital would probably have the stocks in order to provide the lowest cost jab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 37 minutes ago, internationalism said: It plans to charge 6,000-10,000 baht per person, ???????????? I'm so glad there are 69 million people in front of me all desperately wanting the jab. Basic economics and supply and demand. By the time they get close to the end of that line the world will be floating in covid vaccines that they can't give away. Vaccine production will be at a peak as demand drops right along with the price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, mr mr said: covid-19 vaccine should be free to each and every human being on this planet. period. shut up about cost. this is the right thing to do. you want it paid for ? tell the top 1000 companies in the world to foot the bill. shoot apple is worth what 2 trillion on its own. the suffering this is causing is quite clear and yet we as a species can't really pull together to fight this. otherwise ideas like mine would already be happening. We as a species is only good at destroying ourselves, directly or indirectly. It has been happening for centuries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, finnsk said: Yes I prefer the good tested vaccines frem well known western compagnies, I will not feel safe about Chinese and russian vaccines, which are not going trough the same test programs as the western vaccines. Good. More for me. When finally forced to take a jab (or find an agent) I'll go with the Chinese or Russian vaccines that no other Westerners want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Dmaxdan said: Logic should dictate that if you have a Thai spouse and/or kids here you should have the option of being vaccinated along with the rest of your family If you are a foreign man married to a Thai woman, even with kids - the nationalist Thai government only sees you as a national security risk and otherwise would rather that you weren't even in Thailand. You'll get no assistance from that direction. You're on your own Mr. foreign man regardless of your marital status. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGSan Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 hours ago, finnsk said: which are not going trough the same test programs No, but maybe better programs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGSan Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 hours ago, mtls2005 said: Vaccinations will be available here for foreigners. It would be good to know the source of such encouraging information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said: The staff, hospital rent, hospital equipment, electric, ...... needs to be paid too. The entire issue of keeping the prices low and the availability high is that experts are saying that virtually everyone needs a shot in order to obtain herd immunity. So the vaccination price will be a function of public health policy as it pertains to SARS-Cov-2. You can't meet a goal of addressing a 'public health emergency' by making unaffordable vaccines. That beats the purpose. However with that said, there will be a group of 'wealthier than normal' individuals who will be fearful enough to pay top prices to obtain vaccines as soon as they can get them almost regardless of the price. And no doubt there will be providers of vaccines offering them at exorbitant prices to meet that particular supply niche as, this is Thailand. Money and status opens doors to those who have it. I'll go for the cheap Chinese or Russia jab and wait for 5 years or so to watch how the rich lab rats fare with their mRna shots. I sorta want to see the a minimum of five years of data on humans before I step into line for the new tech. I don't need New Tech. I'm comfortable with older low priced phones, older low priced computers, and older low price vaccination tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazbodner Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 54 minutes ago, teacherclaire said: Do you really believe the bat soup ( or soap opera) story? In Wuhan are class 4 laboratories that do "researches" with high risk viruses, including the Coronavirus. A coincidence? I don't think so. https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/covid-19-made-in-wuhan-lab-controlled-by-china-govt-claims-virologist-offers-evidence/story-JJTyD7Ts61FLOzPvEQHHQL.html The Steve Bannon financed research? If you like to share links, here's another. https://www.vox.com/2020/9/18/21439865/coronavirus-china-study-bannon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGSan Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 hours ago, mr mr said: covid-19 vaccine should be free Nothing is really ‘free’, is it? I suspect you mean that you do not want to use your personal stash to pay for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGSan Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, mike787 said: NOT possible. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGSan Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, teacherclaire said: the ones who let the virus go. go where? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGSan Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Cake Monster said: How would you even know if the Vaccine going into your A@s@ is from Moderna or Sinovac ? Who cares? If you pay enough it will work anyway: do you not understand this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundown Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) Get an Agent Edited January 9, 2021 by Sundown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGSan Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, CNXexpat said: Because in China produced cars, drone, iphones, etc. Along with many very good ones, remember! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGSan Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Sheryl said: Chinese vaccine that did nto complete clinical trials What exactly does this mean? And how is such completion, or not, related to its nation of origin? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGSan Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, internationalism said: It plans to charge 6,000-10,000 baht per person How do I get a cheapie, 6000thb value, one? Maybe these are only available in 10-packs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGSan Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, teacherclaire said: A coincidence? Yes. This is more likely true than anything the Hindustani Times will tell you about China! Don’t you agree? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGSan Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Thomas J said: You are more likely to die from being on the Thailand roads driving to the clinic !!! ??? But no matter as we can walk to the clinic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crobe Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 When I thought my visa was not going to be renewed I was prepared to pay 6,750 baht for a covid test and about 15,000 for a flight, so if there is a western vaccine (pfizer/moderna/Astra-Zeneca) available for around 10,000 baht then I would surely be willing to pay for it. As in most other countries I think the Thai government should be buying supplies to vaccinate its people for free - starting with the most vulnerable. As long as that is happening and I am not taking a vaccine which should have gone to someone else in more need, then I would be prepared to pay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacherclaire Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, PGSan said: Yes. This is more likely true than anything the Hindustani Times will tell you about China! Don’t you agree? The problem is that when you read ten different articles/ researches on it, you get 25 different opinions. Well, I do not trust any Hindustani, nor Pakistani news, but the bat soup story sounds too weak to be true. But what do I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGSan Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 29 minutes ago, connda said: I'm comfortable Good to hear you are comfortable! Not sure why you need to tell us all about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Ventenio said: just imagine IF IF IF... farang covid 100,000 baht per shot I imagine then that a flight back home to get a free one would be on the cards ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Alotoftravel said: hoping : Mr. Anutin, Thailand's Minister for Public Health will come true that all foreigners in Thailand will get vaccinated for free I often cannot comprehend why a lot of foreigners living in Thailand don't get private health cover, i.e. unless they are too old that cover is out of the question for them, i.e. the providers won't cover them or it's far too expensive for them to have cover. A few days a go I received an email from my health care provider that they would cover the cost for the vaccination if the government here didn't provide it for free, not that I expected them too, that said, you get what you pay for, pay nothing, leave yourself wide open, pay for private health insurance cover and you have a good chance of them picking up the tab for whatever it is you have, I say that because most believe health providers try and opt out of paying. For under 200 baht a day, I would rather take my chances with a reputable insurance provider for peace of mind and choice of hospital, doctors and specialists. Seriously I mean how much is a vaccination going to put you out, 5-10k baht, so be it, one would imagine your life is far more valuable than that if you don't have private health cover that is offering to pick up the tab. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr mr Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 52 minutes ago, PGSan said: Nothing is really ‘free’, is it? I suspect you mean that you do not want to use your personal stash to pay for it. no. money is not a big problem so you are barking up the wrong tree that way. i mean look at what a cluster f this whole thing has done to our life and species. this is the precipice for us and our current way of life. when will we change ? many of the posters here don't have the time i do left to be on this planet. i'd rather my future back please and thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 hours ago, finnsk said: Yes I prefer the good tested vaccines frem well known western compagnies, I will not feel safe about Chinese and russian vaccines, which are not going trough the same test programs as the western vaccines. not at all sure that is the case. They are being tested extensively, on their own citizens. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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