richard_smith237 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I’d like to propose a couple of questions to you 473geo... - Do you believe money from this 300b fund will NO|T end up in the pockets of some making this decision? - Do you believe this decision was NOT influenced by this potential to ’skim’ a little off the top? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Do you really believe that expressing an opinion on this forum equates to a refusal to travel ???? I certainly dislike the idea that almost undoubtedly back-handers were paid by ASQ hotels to be awarded such status - does that mean I refuse to travel back to my family ?????? Of course not, that suggestion is downright stupid. Highlighting the selective use of principles Richard would only be classed as stupid by the person caught out ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, 473geo said: The UK government absorbs ha ha ha you are joking Richard taxes or VAT will go up or both I give up........ why? because after all the bullshirt from you guys who are making all the noise about not paying, you will still pay, as Thailand is value for money. So in all reality all your 'accusations' to 'support' your stance will prove to be redundant. You will pay as you did for your quarantine Richard, then conveniently move on to churn out the same old rhetoric about the government while still putting money into it. What do you think the UK government or any other government is if it is not taxes ? Part of that tax money earned is GST, VAT etc... into which visitors to the country contribute. Of course we will pay, its not voluntary after all ! But when the topic arises on a discussion designed for such and when I have time to discuss such I can voice my opinion that I find a policy such as this distasteful and enter discussions with others like yourself who think such policies are perfectly acceptable and seem happy to pay whatever is asked of them. I’ll pay, I’m just not quite as happy as you are to do so because I believe the real intention of this policy is to provide an avenue for those who’ve made this decision and those who’ve approved it to profit from it. Thailand has too much history of such behaviour from its decision makers for this not to be a strong possibility. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: I’d like to propose a couple of questions to you 473geo... - Do you believe money from this 300b fund will NO|T end up in the pockets of some making this decision? - Do you believe this decision was NOT influenced by this potential to ’skim’ a little off the top? I have seen zero evidence thus far to suggest any funding received from this yet to be implemented tourist entry tax of 300 baht will go anywhere but the fund it is intended to support The tax appears to me to be a fair method of recovering losses from the tourist sector attributed to non payment of tourist bills in hospitals as reported over last few years, should such losses be minimal the excess would be useful in supporting the tourist industry in alternative ways. As such I will be quite content to deliver my 300 baht when I arrive in Thailand of a free VOA 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkocker Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: I’d like to propose a couple of questions to you 473geo... - Do you believe money from this 300b fund will NO|T end up in the pockets of some making this decision? - Do you believe this decision was NOT influenced by this potential to ’skim’ a little off the top? Who cares !!! Pay up or ship out. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post superal Posted January 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2021 With the new charge of 300 baht on top of the hidden 700 baht which is tucked away within the air fare , the new total is 1000 baht per Thai tourist and this to compensate for non payment of hospital bills by farangs ? Got to be having a laugh cos every time I go to a government hospital I am hit with a bill up to 10 times that of a Thai patient plus if an inpatient they bring the bill day by day despite your state . Only yesterday I had to see a doctor because of a minor eye complaint . 5 minute consultation and 1 mini bottle of eye drops was 750 baht . I complained and said why did you just charge a Thai guy 100 baht for the same treatment and the doctor laughed saying you pay farang price . To the unaware there is a 4 tier pricing in many Thai government hospitals . i.e. 1/ Local Thais 2/ Other Asians such as Cambodians who come to Thailand as there own country has poor medical facilities 3/ Local farangs with Thai families 4/ Farang tourists especially those with travel insurance . I very much doubt if the airport collected 300 baht will go to subsidise medical bills . 1000 baht per entry could provide a decent medical insurance for responsible tourists if the reasoning is to be believed . 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrendsd Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 On 1/15/2021 at 10:28 PM, richard_smith237 said: Typical apologist response, this it not a Thai Bash, its a bash as those making such flawed decisions. What a dumb comment - you don’t think Thai’s also draw the same conclusions that we do about such policies. It is because I have a wealth of Thai friends that I can readily recognise the ‘cash grab’ that this really is. 300 Baht for travel insurance I'm struggling to understand what there is to bash about that? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, darrendsd said: I'm struggling to understand what there is to bash about that? Struggle away.... According to the OP the money goes to the Thai Tourism Promotions Fund. Edited January 17, 2021 by Odysseus123 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyboy Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 18 hours ago, Bangkocker said: So go !!! just sayin', go to some other flee pit country without the infrastructure because you are sobbing of being diddled for a whole of 1o bucks. oh what a rant you been on the lao kho or what i think you need to to take a deep breath is this lockdown getting to you ..i stated 300 ripping off farangs is no good good for us or their tourism Just saying ...perhaps you have trouble understanding English ..or should i write it with a Crayon Bucks eh u a yank we talk Baht here have a good day sir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyboy Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 3 hours ago, darrendsd said: 300 Baht for travel insurance I'm struggling to understand what there is to bash about that? yes but Why should i lag travel ins for people who dont pay their bills i pay hospital bills for me and my family not for Farangs who prefer to spend it on Booze then cry when they don't have cash for doctors i dont mind helping the more unfortunate genuine ones but no 300 for scroungers let the moaning do gooders on here pay it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkocker Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 36 minutes ago, Harveyboy said: oh what a rant you been on the lao kho or what i think you need to to take a deep breath is this lockdown getting to you ..i stated 300 ripping off farangs is no good good for us or their tourism Just saying ...perhaps you have trouble understanding English ..or should i write it with a Crayon Bucks eh u a yank we talk Baht here have a good day sir You are drawing a long bow claiming poor souls like you are being ripped off for being charged 10 Dollars (baht, dollari, pounds - who ef-fin' cares). Maybe on people that are objecting, that very crayon can be used on their foreheads with the word - misers !! Y'all have a good day now !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted January 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Bangkocker said: Who cares !!! Pay up or ship out. You mean ‘if you don’t like it go home’ ??? ... welcome to the long line of other ThaiVisa posters who’ve quoted the most overused and unintelligent argument on this forum... At least you paraphrased it - that places you slightly above the most unimaginative of posters ! 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Odysseus123 Posted January 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: You mean ‘if you don’t like it go home’ ??? ... welcome to the long line of other ThaiVisa posters who’ve quoted the most overused and unintelligent argument on this forum... At least you paraphrased it - that places you slightly above the most unimaginative of posters ! I have been somewhat amused by the various posters who have claimed that the fee is somehow related to health insurance/hospitals when,as stated by the OP,the money is for Tourist promotions. One must conclude that some have departed for intellectual galaxies unknown to mortal man but,alas,have left their astro navigation charts behind in a bed-sit in Bromley. Edited January 17, 2021 by Odysseus123 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyboy Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bangkocker said: You are drawing a long bow claiming poor souls like you are being ripped off for being charged 10 Dollars (baht, dollari, pounds - who ef-fin' cares). Maybe on people that are objecting, that very crayon can be used on their foreheads with the word - misers !! Y'all have a good day now !! you are missing the point it the ethics its the point that this is a way of ripping off people who want to come here thailand is in a bad state to put it mildly tourism is dead the government doesn't have a clue they should be giving people a reason to come not put blocks in the way ive worked in tourism all my working life i know how just a small thing like this can get blown out of all proportion which it has if you read on most sites inc this one .. it also states the money would be used to cover medical of those who do not have cover and cost the Thais a fortune in unpaided medical bills which is not good..i pay my insurance for me my wife and kids we do not scrounge from anyone i just cannot accept i pay their bills while they take the carefree attitude that someone will insurance can be bought for the price of a few daily beers which it seem ..beers win ..im not tight i fo my bit for our community here in Thailand i sponsor and attending any fund raising to help its just principal with this 300 ...ps was i right about the yank thing lol keep safe .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted January 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2021 8 hours ago, 473geo said: I have seen zero evidence thus far to suggest any funding received from this yet to be implemented tourist entry tax of 300 baht will go anywhere but the fund it is intended to support The tax appears to me to be a fair method of recovering losses from the tourist sector attributed to non payment of tourist bills in hospitals as reported over last few years, should such losses be minimal the excess would be useful in supporting the tourist industry in alternative ways. As such I will be quite content to deliver my 300 baht when I arrive in Thailand of a free VOA Oh purleeeesee... ..... You don’t believe there is corruption without a smoking gun ???? Your argument was that this is to support the health industry, now your argument is that its to support the tourist sector... The support of the tourist sector is the very presence of tourists.... IF tourists were costing Thailand money it would not welcome them and TAT wouldn’t be announcing so many different schemes and ways to get tourism back on track. This scheme a greedy cash grab with some window dressing for people daft enough to believe the hideous BS. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Oh purleeeesee... ..... You don’t believe there is corruption without a smoking gun ???? Your argument was that this is to support the health industry, now your argument is that its to support the tourist sector... The support of the tourist sector is the very presence of tourists.... IF tourists were costing Thailand money it would not welcome them and TAT wouldn’t be announcing so many different schemes and ways to get tourism back on track. This scheme a greedy cash grab with some window dressing for people daft enough to believe the hideous BS. Richard you choose to go through life lumbered with opinion everything in Thailand is a rip off and a con, I'm happy for you if that floats your boat. I'll just smile and pay my 300 baht, I guess I will be reading about the extortionate price of tablets to counteract hypertension next.........???? .........but I guess if required you will pay for them too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmbkk Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, Tanoshi said: If married to a British citizen she can apply after 3 years as long as she can pass the requirements. I don't see where it says you can apply after 3 years if married to a British Citizen. Was this the old process that May changed? From what we’ve been told and on the gov’ website it’s five years. My wife entered on a Spouse/Partner Leave to Enter visa. After two and half years she got her Spouse/Partner Leave to remain visa. On five years she can apply for her I.L.R. visa & then apply for British passport. Yes, I know the fees, they keep rising, especially HIS (health insurance cover ones). That’s why I thought worth doing now instead of delaying and redoing everything at a higher cost at a later date. I’m British. My wife is a Thai Doctor – her English test scores are higher than required. She has already passed the “Life in the UK” test Has police checks Earns more than the requirements However, we still have to wait for 5 years. Which I personally think is a disgrace if married to a British national, however they are the current government rules. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hezzey Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 On 1/15/2021 at 5:48 PM, 473geo said: I earn 4 or 5 times the average salary in Thailand, I am a visitor, a tourist, I don't pay a tax to contribute to Thai welfare, or upkeep of the the attractions, other than VAT or entrance fee. What amounts to a couple or so thousand baht a year is no issue to me, should I wish to enjoy Thai attractions. There will be many on this forum spending way more than that on one 'attraction' for a week. Like to add Thailand has enough money to take care of their people with out getting it from tourist if its not so why are they getting involved with space travel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 hours ago, hezzey said: Like to add Thailand has enough money to take care of their people with out getting it from tourist if its not so why are they getting involved with space travel. I think the plan might be to load it with stingy farangs 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, 473geo said: Richard you choose to go through life lumbered with opinion everything in Thailand is a rip off and a con, I'm happy for you if that floats your boat. I'll just smile and pay my 300 baht, I guess I will be reading about the extortionate price of tablets to counteract hypertension next.........???? .........but I guess if required you will pay for them too Your criticism is now a personal one, that I have opinions ???? and you have made another statement I think ‘everything in Thailand is a rip off’.... Again, you keep making these statements on my behalf to bolster your argument instead of sticking to what I have written. Can’t you deal with the specific subject of debate ?? You now attempt to take the personal route and question my health. Quite laughable... you now suggest I have hypertension !! - Don’t worry, if I did it would be eased by the enjoyment of amusement at idiotic assumptions and statements you have made on my behalf !!!!... Edited January 17, 2021 by richard_smith237 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: Your criticism is now a personal one, that I have opinions ???? and you have made another statement I think ‘everything in Thailand is a rip off’.... Again, you keep making these statements on my behalf to bolster your argument instead of sticking to what I have written. Can’t you deal with the specific subject of debate ?? You now attempt to take the personal route and question my health. Quite laughable... you now suggest I have hypertension !! - Don’t worry, if I did it would be eased by the enjoyment of amusement at idiotic assumptions and statements you have made on my behalf !!!!... I take it you never read what you post Richard - bye 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jomtien Holiday Guy Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Finally Thailand got rid of the hassle with the departure fee from the airport and now they will introduce a new fee? It's not about the money, but thise kind of stupid fees is a hassle. Put higher tax on the Hotels and the Farangs will get the bill in the end without another stupid fee to pay up front.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hezzey Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 5 hours ago, 473geo said: I think the plan might be to load it with stingy farangs It's principal not the money, being charged more because you're foreign is racist and most expats don't like it, I suppose you will say go home if you don't like it, racism has to stop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1Str8 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 It's always been okay with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, A1Str8 said: It's always been okay with me. How? It hasn't been introduced yet.... Edited January 17, 2021 by Odysseus123 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 hour ago, hezzey said: It's principal not the money, being charged more because you're foreign is racist and most expats don't like it, I suppose you will say go home if you don't like it, racism has to stop. Get over your handwringing and sobbing. If it is enacted it will be as "racist" as the existing exit tax and any other of the multiple transit taxes people of all races get hit with every time they fly anywhere in the world. How come we don't get 30 odd pages bleating about the racist visa exempt ... oh that's right, it's a form of discrimination that benefits the vast majority of TV membership. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayadgw Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 These people have got to be on drugs.... 10 million tourists expected this year..... go back to noddy land. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hezzey Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 14 hours ago, Salerno said: Get over your handwringing and sobbing. If it is enacted it will be as "racist" as the existing exit tax and any other of the multiple transit taxes people of all races get hit with every time they fly anywhere in the world. How come we don't get 30 odd pages bleating about the racist visa exempt ... oh that's right, it's a form of discrimination that benefits the vast majority of TV membership. Www I was talking about the charges for visiting attractions when you live in thailand not someone who visits once a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermarineS6B Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 On 1/15/2021 at 12:31 PM, 473geo said: One thing any 'sane' person will admit is that in Thailand you need to be adaptable and flexible, I guess there are those who cry out for change in Thailand, then when it comes, are neither prepared to accept it, or pay for it, because it doesn't suit their personal agenda I'm not crying out for change, i'd rather have Thailand rewind the clock six years and the present individuals making such a mess of running the country go and have a holiday in China ( One way )...... I think everyone who's been in Thailand for many years will tell you that Thailand used to be No1....... Now ? As i say if you can't sell those two commodities anywhere in the world then you need a quick course in business...... I have something you want and i'll make it buyable at a fair price..... easy........ Or the Thai version is, I have two things that you want and i'm going to price it out of your reach, then i'm going to raise the price when you don't buy it......... That's purely Chinese thinking......... My family agreed to buy a house in Hong Kong five times before we warned the seller that the fifth time was the last ! His reason was, " if you agree to the price it must be too cheap "....... Five times we agreed the price then refused ! Sound familiar ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trujillo Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 ~28,000 tourists a day are expected.... Oh look! Is that flying pig? I'm sure it is! Hallelujah! We're saved by the flying pig! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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