Vaccination Program Will Be Divided into 3 Phases

[Letseng]

13 hours ago, khunphil said:

Well ... I think ... as we know Thailand for a long time, that foreigners will have access to private clinics or hospital, to get vaccinated, at a price of course. Actually this is how it works here no ? We will see, I could be wrong....

Phil.

 

I wish I could pay to get a vaccination in EU. We are hoping to do just this when getting back to Bkk.

[sammieuk1]

Phase 3 still awaiting a subcommittee to be formed to discuss phase 1and 2 ????

[superal]

10 hours ago, Elkski said:

By the time Thailand gets 59% vaccination the 2nd vaccination will be ongoing in the real World.  This is going to be a yearly or no yearly thing.  To much money to be made.  It will be like car manufacturers intentionally leaving out improvements for future years sales.   Remember how government's were slow to say they will pay for vaccines.  Well I would expect a change for next gen vaccine's.   This is like a wild fire.  Not stomping it out everywhere quickly means a deadly mutation has time to occur.  

True and that is happening right now in the UK who have performed admirably in the inoculation of its nation . The problem is , as you say , the frequent mutations of the virus that are rendering the efficacy of the vaccines to half of their initial potency , of virus defence , at best . On glimmer of hope according to a BBC report was that once vaccinated you are less likely to be infectious to other people . The BBC also stated that it is a race against time and the whole nation will be vaccinated by the beginning of May but alarmingly the mutations may well be prominent thus akin to a mad dog chasing its tail .

The mind boggles to how there will be any control of vaccinating in Thailand's rural areas especially where there are little if any records kept of the local nomadic inhabitants and their addresses . Will vaccination appointment times follow the same format as government hospitals when an appointment for say 10 00 am is the common time for everyone  , there will be mile long queues . Not to mention Thailand's officialdom where they like to take 10 steps of paperwork where one would suffice .

[NoshowJones]

22 hours ago, webfact said:

Vaccination Program Will Be Divided into 3 Phases

 

   

BANGKOK (NNT) - COVID-19 Vaccination program will be divided into 3 phases, with priority given to healthcare workers, the elderly and the seriously ill.

 

Government Spokesman Anucha Burapachaisri said the vaccines will be administered by the national vaccine committee and the Public Health Ministry will closely monitor and assess the procedures, adding that the first group is expected to be vaccinated in February.

 

He said the Prime Minister has assured that the distribution of vaccines against COVID-19 will be fair and in line with international standards.

 

 

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"He said the Prime Minister has assured that the distribution of vaccines against COVID-19 will be fair and in line with international standards."  That's OK then, if he says so. 

[RubbaJohnny]

Hard to see how the majority needed will happen soon unless compulsary and a condition to obtain entry schools, work or welfare access.

 

I imagine some stores make require proof so barring a subcutaneous chip a whole industry in fake/borrowed certs will emerge.

 

Even if free for locals.

A nation that cannot even enforce crash helmets on the police even , farmers burning is going to find rollout a challenge. Sure city based nurses and Drs will get it but people in remote areas?

 

Sadly it'll need the panic of mass deaths like UK and USA to be a real incentive. Poor folks wont lose a days work esp if they have to pay for multi dose vaccine of short term perceived benefit to the individual.

 

Off course as prior elections and demos reveal , folks will sit on pavements all day patiently for 500 baht so paying people to get the jab is the only sure fire way.

 

For public health a high take up rate is needed I have seen figures of 70-90%+ bandied about, of course a nation that is no truly in control of its borders will also need same in Burma Laos Cambodia and Malaysia .

 

Of course easy enforce a costly unknown jab on foreigners just make it a condition of visa or entry, I'm sure this 'earning" opportunity will not  be lost and whatever jabs obtained abroad will not be recognised so snouts can dip in that new improved hi speed gravy train 

 

70 odd million folks plus visitors to be milked repeatedly will attract serious interest, more large envelopes may be needed. Once the land borders really sealed , they're going to need a bigger boat.

[metisdead]

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[khunphil]

8 minutes ago, RubbaJohnny said:

A nation that cannot even enforce crash helmets on the police even , farmers burning is going to find rollout a challenge. Sure city based nurses and Drs will get it but people in remote areas?

 

Well, I am more afraid about the quality and safe storage of the vaccine, that the way they could handle vaccination program. It is already well done for babies, with regular doctor appointment for vaccine shots, and quite well organized, and I am not speaking about Bangkok here (small upcountry village)

No ..really..what makes me afraid ... is about the 'cold' storage, respecting the ml for each dose, and the "authenticity" of the bottle ????, and the renewal of vaccines when one will be outdated or with low efficiency against the new mutations.

Anyway, as I read somewhere that private hospitals can buy vaccines by themselves (if I am not mistaken), we will see soon special private offers , as we have now for C19 testings ... but not now.

[RubbaJohnny]

On 2/3/2021 at 12:11 PM, khunphil said:

Well, I am more afraid about the quality and safe storage of the vaccine, that the way they could handle vaccination program. It is already well done for babies, with regular doctor appointment for vaccine shots, and quite well organized, and I am not speaking about Bangkok here (small upcountry village)

No ..really..what makes me afraid ... is about the 'cold' storage, respecting the ml for each dose, and the "authenticity" of the bottle ????, and the renewal of vaccines when one will be outdated or with low efficiency against the new mutations.

Anyway, as I read somewhere that private hospitals can buy vaccines by themselves (if I am not mistaken), we will see soon special private offers , as we have now for C19 testings ... but not now.

All good points, to be fair the medics are well trained, of course the issues of distribution and price are like all else subject to "market manipulation'. I think any other comment will become taboo , banned or like many rational opinions in LOS marginalized, criminalized or silenced. What was a public health issue has been made political. The losses to tourism will never be recovered and far fewer visitors this year too is going to hit hard lowly paid workers.

[RobU]

On 2/2/2021 at 5:25 AM, canopus1969 said:

Err slow down chaps, they need to get the vaccines first as so far they've made a right pigs ear of it

Not Thailand. It's the EU who are banning the export of Covid Vaccine because they made a pig's ear of their procurement process so countries like Thailand who got in first and made their orders months in advance of the EU are now being denied those orders. Lucky that in the UK we also ordered in advance of the EU but have other sources. Also lucky that we left the EU wonders not embroiled in their inneficciency.

[Bkk Brian]

55 minutes ago, RobU said:

Thailand who got in first and made their orders months in advance of the EU are now being denied those orders. Lucky that in the UK we also ordered in advance of the EU but have other sources. Also lucky that we left the EU wonders not embroiled in their inneficciency.

Actually Thailand did not sign their contract with AstraZeneca until 27th Nov 2020. The EU signed in August and the UK signed in June so yes Thailand was slow off the blocs and now paying the ultimate price

[RobU]

36 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Actually Thailand did not sign their contract with AstraZeneca until 27th Nov 2020. The EU signed in August and the UK signed in June so yes Thailand was slow off the blocs and now paying the ultimate price

Point taken but the fact is that Thailand did sign a contract and it is the EU who are causing the delay. Thailand cannot be held responsible for the aggressive panic response of the EU. You cannot fault the Thai government for being cautious and determining the efficacy of the vaccine before signing. The UK took a risk and signed the agreement before the full trials were completed and has reaped the benefit. The EU followed.

[internationalism]

those 50k AZ was ordered only some 2 weeks ago, as part of 200k emergency import. 

after short time this was cut by AZ to 150k.

it suppose to be part of the original deal for 26mln from october.

but now appears AZ can back off from any agreement - first from those 150k citing EU ban and second from transferring technology to siam bioscience for a possible lese majeste backlash.

because they are not going to profit much from the deal, they don't want risk and jeopardise it's own very existence in thailand

[Dogmatix]

On 2/2/2021 at 5:55 PM, brommers said:

So, yesterday bankrupt South Africa received 1 million doses of the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine. Sourced fom Serum Institute of India. With hundreds of thousands more doses to follow within weeks.

Meanwhile Bob the Builder masquerading as the Minister of Public Health is still waiting to hear when we will get 50 000, yes fifty thousand doses  of the same vaccine, sourced from Italy. As this country has bet the future on this one vaccine would it not be sensible to have sourced supplies from India? Meanwhile the nation holds it's breath for further 6 months to see if the local production, built from scratch actually delivers a single dose. This junta is following a dangerous path for the health of the nation and the recovery of tourism. 

 

He was offered 2 million doses of Astra Zeneca at $3 a dose for immediate delivery by SII from India but refused them for reasons he didn't bother to explain.

[Neeranam]

On 02/02/2021 at 12:25 PM, canopus1969 said:

Err slow down chaps, they need to get the vaccines first as so far they've made a right pigs ear of it

How? Tgailand has done much better than most countries, especially Western developed ones. 

[Dogmatix]

46 minutes ago, internationalism said:

those 50k AZ was ordered only some 2 weeks ago, as part of 200k emergency import. 

after short time this was cut by AZ to 150k.

it suppose to be part of the original deal for 26mln from october.

but now appears AZ can back off from any agreement - first from those 150k citing EU ban and second from transferring technology to siam bioscience for a possible lese majeste backlash.

because they are not going to profit much from the deal, they don't want risk and jeopardise it's own very existence in thailand

 

I think it very likely AZ will pull the plug on the SBS deal. For something that they will not make any money out of it seems too much reputational risk and hassle for them from the perspective of the possible LM charges and the obligation to ensure quality control with a small, inexperienced licensee. Also it is unlikely now that the 200 million doses planed for production in Thailand will be needed for SE Asian countries. SII in India with 800 million doses per annum capacity in place since November has been going gangbusters exporting millions of doses to Latin America, Africa and Asia.  So it's hard to see why the additional SE Asia capacity will be needed.  Note that Astra Zeneca has been completely silent about its Thai deal and no SE Asia country has announced it has AZ vaccine on order from Thailand. If the factory now only needs to produce 60 million doses for Thailand, it will be losing proposition and not worth AZ having to fly people out to transfer technology and ensure quality and safety.

[realfunster]

On 2/2/2021 at 11:10 AM, webfact said:

He said the Prime Minister has assured that the distribution of vaccines against COVID-19 will be fair and in line with international standards.

 

Never ceases to amuse that for such a proud country, when it suits them, they love falling back on this ‘international standards’ line.

 

Seems this greatly reassures Thai citizens that something will be actually be done properly, fairly and transparently. The logical inference being that the phrase ‘Thai standards’ or indicating some sort of local policy making would not convey a similar message. 

 

It also comes with the added benefit of reducing any accountability for the powers-that-be, as after all, they are just following ‘international standards’.

 

Will be a welcome sign of development, confidence and maturity when one day a Thai government is able to make, and stand behind, policy announcements independently and these not be viewed with skepticism.