Non O Visa based on Receipt of the U.K. State Pension.

[Jumbo1968]

I lost all the info when Thai Visa was down for a couple of days,

1) I can’t locate the application form on the London Embassy Website ?

2) Is Health Insurance now required for this type of Visa ?

[ubonjoe]

You have to apply online for the single entry non-o visa. https://thaievisa.go.th/Home/

More info is here. https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/84508-non-immigrant-visas?page=5d6636cd15e39c3bd00072dd&menu=5f4b6eb3f6ae4b236972c562

Also here for additional requirements including the insurance requirements. 

https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/requirements-for-foreigners-travelling-to-thailand-during-covid-19-tra?page=5d6636cd15e39c3bd00072dd&menu=5f4b6eb3f6ae4b236972c562

 

[Jumbo1968]

14 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You have to apply online for the single entry non-o visa. https://thaievisa.go.th/Home/

More info is here. https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/84508-non-immigrant-visas?page=5d6636cd15e39c3bd00072dd&menu=5f4b6eb3f6ae4b236972c562

Also here for additional requirements including the insurance requirements. 

https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/requirements-for-foreigners-travelling-to-thailand-during-covid-19-tra?page=5d6636cd15e39c3bd00072dd&menu=5f4b6eb3f6ae4b236972c562

 

Once again thanks Joe, I have some old application forms, I am not sure they are up to date, I can’t see where I can download an application form or do I complete it online ?

 

[ubonjoe]

It is completed automatically when you do it online and you then print it out to mail it with your passport to the embassy.

[Tanoshi]

If your applying for the 90 day Non O based on retirement, then the 400/40K medical Insurance is required, as well as the Covid 100,000 USD Insurance.

If applying based on marriage only the Covid 100,000 USD Insurance is required.

Any/all Insurance polices are only required to cover the 90 day entry from the Non O.

[Jumbo1968]

11 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

It is completed automatically when you do it online and you then print it out to mail it with your passport to the embassy.

Apologies Joe I can’t locate the application form or even where to start the online process, the system has changed since I last applied.

Another poster has stated I need Health Insurance for the visa, that wasn’t the case before as I have had one based on receiving my U.K. State Pension previously.
i am aware Health Insurance is mandatory once I apply for my COE which I can’t apply for till I get a visa.

 

[Tanoshi]

Thai E-Visa online site:

Official Website of Thailand Electronic Visa (thaievisa.go.th)

 

[ubonjoe]

5 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

Apologies Joe I can’t locate the application form or even where to start the online process, the system has changed since I last applied.

I suggest you start by looking at the instruction manual. https://thaievisa.go.th/static/English-Manual.pdf

You have to register first and then you start completing the application.

7 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

Another poster has stated I need Health Insurance for the visa, that wasn’t the case before as I have had one based on receiving my U.K. State Pension previously.

That is a requirement due to the covid 19 pandemic.

Do you plan on applying for a extension of stay based upon retirement? If yes you could enter visa exempt and then apply for the non-o at immigration. That did it that way you would only need the $100,000 covid 19 insurance to cover the 45 day entry you now get from a visa exempt entry now.

[Tanoshi]

11 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

Another poster has stated I need Health Insurance for the visa, that wasn’t the case before as I have had one based on receiving my U.K. State Pension previously.

I didn't state for the Visa.

Just pointing out it is required later if your Visa is applied for based on retirement.

[Jumbo1968]

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

I suggest you start by looking at the instruction manual. https://thaievisa.go.th/static/English-Manual.pdf

You have to register first and then you start completing the application.

That is a requirement due to the covid 19 pandemic.

Do you plan on applying for a extension of stay based upon retirement? If yes you could enter visa exempt and then apply for the non-o at immigration. That did it that way you would only need the $100,000 covid 19 insurance to cover the 45 day entry you now get from a visa exempt entry now.

I plan to apply for Single Entry 90 Day Non O based on receiving my U.K. State Pension. I had the Multi Entry Non O before they stopped them. 
I have read up but I can’t find the link to even register ?

[DrJack54]

Off topic but must say when read these threads and see what experts like ubonjoe, Tanoshi etc bring to the table reminds me what a great resource Thaivisa is.

OP, I don't get this part of your post....."plan to apply for Single Entry 90 Day Non O based on receiving my U.K. State Pension".

Your applying for non o based on marriage or retirement. Your pension is irrelevant

 

[ubonjoe]

4 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

OP, I don't get this part of your post.....plan to apply for Single Entry 90 Day Non O based on receiving my U.K. State Pension.

That is how it is done at the London embassy.

"Non-Immigrant Type O (Retirement (pensioner aged 50 or above with a state pension who wants to stay in Thailand for no longer than 90 days) - single entry only)

• Financial evidence e.g. A copy of pension statement if the applicant is a pensioner, or a copy of 1-month bank statement showing your income from pension, or 3-month bank statement of at least £10,000
• Confirmation of legal residence in the UK or Ireland

Source: https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/84508-non-immigrant-visas?page=5d6636cd15e39c3bd00072dd&menu=5f4b6eb3f6ae4b236972c562

[Jumbo1968]

9 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

That is how it is done at the London embassy.

"Non-Immigrant Type O (Retirement (pensioner aged 50 or above with a state pension who wants to stay in Thailand for no longer than 90 days) - single entry only)

• Financial evidence e.g. A copy of pension statement if the applicant is a pensioner, or a copy of 1-month bank statement showing your income from pension, or 3-month bank statement of at least £10,000
• Confirmation of legal residence in the UK or Ireland

Source: https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/84508-non-immigrant-visas?page=5d6636cd15e39c3bd00072dd&menu=5f4b6eb3f6ae4b236972c562

Thanks Joe, I am a bit rusty as it’s over 2 years since I applied for the last one.

[ubonjoe]

2 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

Thanks Joe, I am a bit rusty as it’s over 2 years since I applied for the last one.

It all changed in June of 2019 when they started using e visa website for the applications.

Before that you could get a multiple entry non-o visa.

[DrJack54]

2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

That is how it is done at the London embassy.

What if I'm rich and UK citizen and don't require state pension. I assume I can obtain non O (retirement) without the requirements you list or is it then same as AU, where non o (retirement) not available?

[Upnotover]

14 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

What if I'm rich and UK citizen and don't require state pension. I assume I can obtain non O (retirement) without the requirements you list or is it then same as AU, where non o (retirement) not available?

You don't have to be rich;

"or 3-month bank statement of at least £10,000"

[DrJack54]

36 minutes ago, Upnotover said:

You don't have to be rich;

"or 3-month bank statement of at least £10,000"

Thanks. I missed the OR.

On an aside the word PENSION can confuse folk from Oz. In Australia we would think that means "old age pension". I think it refers to what Oz folk have which is industry based superannuation. 

[Tanoshi]

30 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

In Australia we would think that means "old age pension".

It does!

The 'state pension' they refer to is the government pension which currently is only paid when attaining the age of 66. It's a bit of a red herring because between the age of 50 -66 the, OR, is 3 months bank statements of £10,000.

I believe in Australia only the Non O-A is available on the basis of retirement, which was the same as the US, but the US has just gone over to the online E-Visa application system, the plus being this now offers the single entry Non O on the basis of retirement.

The UK, France, China and now the US all have to apply using the online E-Visa system at the Embassy.

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

I believe in Australia only the Non O-A is available on the basis of retirement,

That's correct. Think the Oz folk can obtain non O based on marriage. As far as based on retirement it's as you posted.

 

[jimn]

I am trying to work out your plan here.

Are you planning on applying for a single entry Non O based on retirement 90 days?

Are you then intending to convert into an extension of stay based on retirement once in Thailand?

In either case you will need $100 Covid insurance and 40k baht outpatient and 400k baht inpatient insurance. This insurance is required for new Non O retirement applications.

If you are just planning to spend 90 days in Thailand then its easier to just get a Tourist Visa 60 days and extend by 30 days in Thailand, only the Covid insurance required for this.

If you are planning to convert into an extension of stay based on retirement once again you do not need the Non O based on retirement with the added 40k/400k insurance. Its easier to either travel Visa Exempt 45 days plus 30 days extension or Tourist Visa 60 days plus 30 extension. Once in Thailand deposit 800k in a Thai bank for 2 months and then apply for a change of visa  status to Non O 2k baht and then extension of stay based on retirement 1,900 baht, no additional insurance requirements.

[OJAS]

2 hours ago, jimn said:

In either case you will need $100 Covid insurance and 40k baht outpatient and 400k baht inpatient insurance. This insurance is required for new Non O retirement applications.

My understanding has always been that the 40k/400k insurance is only mandatory for retirement extensions based on non-OA - and not non-O - visas. Certainly the London Embassy website only mentions this requirement for those seeking non-OA visas, not for those seeking non-O visas for retirement based on the State Pension:-

https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/84508-non-immigrant-visas

 

[ubonjoe]

14 minutes ago, OJAS said:

My understanding has always been that the 40k/400k insurance is only mandatory for retirement extensions based on non-OA - and not non-O - visas. Certainly the London Embassy website only mentions this requirement for those seeking non-OA visas, not for those seeking non-O visas for retirement based on the State Pension:-

It is required to get the certificate of entry.

"7. For long-stay retirement visa holders (Non-Immigrant O/O-A/O-X) for people over 50 years old

- Copy of health insurance policy which covers medical treatment in Thailand (non-COVID-19 diseases) for outpatient not less than 40,000 Baht and inpatient not less than 400,000 Baht for the whole period of your stay in Thailand

- Copy of health insurance that coversCOVID-19 related medical expenses, both inpatient and outpatient, no less than 100,000 USD for the whole period of your stay in Thailand"

Source: https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/requirements-for-foreigners-travelling-to-thailand-during-covid-19-tra?page=5d6636cd15e39c3bd00072dd&menu=5f4b6eb3f6ae4b236972c562

[Jumbo1968]

10 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

It is required to get the certificate of entry.

"7. For long-stay retirement visa holders (Non-Immigrant O/O-A/O-X) for people over 50 years old

- Copy of health insurance policy which covers medical treatment in Thailand (non-COVID-19 diseases) for outpatient not less than 40,000 Baht and inpatient not less than 400,000 Baht for the whole period of your stay in Thailand

- Copy of health insurance that coversCOVID-19 related medical expenses, both inpatient and outpatient, no less than 100,000 USD for the whole period of your stay in Thailand"

Source: https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/requirements-for-foreigners-travelling-to-thailand-during-covid-19-tra?page=5d6636cd15e39c3bd00072dd&menu=5f4b6eb3f6ae4b236972c562

I am becoming confused now I was on the understanding that only a Covid Insurance was required for a COE for a Non O Single Entry based on some one receiving the U.K. State Pension not Health cover as well or have the rules changed ?

[ubonjoe]

5 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

I am becoming confused now I was on the understanding that only a Covid Insurance was required for a COE for a Non O Single Entry based on some one receiving the U.K. State Pension not Health cover as well or have the rules changed ?

I posted a link to the page that shows the insurance requirement on page one. 

[jimn]

1 hour ago, Jumbo1968 said:

I am becoming confused now I was on the understanding that only a Covid Insurance was required for a COE for a Non O Single Entry based on some one receiving the U.K. State Pension not Health cover as well or have the rules changed ?

When the Non O based on retirement was reintroduced, the requirement to get the health insurance 40k/400k is required to get a COE. Existing retirement extension of stay holders with a re entry permit only require the Covid cover

[Jumbo1968]

7 minutes ago, jimn said:

When the Non O based on retirement was reintroduced, the requirement to get the health insurance 40k/400k is required to get a COE. Existing retirement extension of stay holders with a re entry permit only require the Covid cover

I would be applying for a Non O Single Entry based on me receiving my U.K. StatePension, Health Insurance is not required, I would not be applying for aVisa based on retirement.

[BritTim]

1 hour ago, Jumbo1968 said:

I would be applying for a Non O Single Entry based on me receiving my U.K. StatePension, Health Insurance is not required, I would not be applying for aVisa based on retirement.

When you apply for a Non O based on possession of a UK state pension, the assumption is that you are a retiree, and using the state pension to meet the financial requirements for a retirement purpose visa.

[Jumbo1968]

If entering on the No O 90 day single entry visa do I have to have a return ticket ?

[ubonjoe]

10 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

If entering on the No O 90 day single entry visa do I have to have a return ticket ?

No you do not.

[jimn]

21 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

I would be applying for a Non O Single Entry based on me receiving my U.K. StatePension, Health Insurance is not required, I would not be applying for aVisa based on retirement.

I have already posted what is required for a Non O based on Retirement using your State Pension. You will require $100k Covid insurance and 40k/400k health insurance to get the COE or you will not be going. Please take some time to read what UJ and myself have posted to advise you or we are wasting our time if you choose to ignore it.