Smoking in room.

[Patanawet]

I am having a dispute with a neighbour. He is objecting to my partner smoking on our balcony, saying it permeates into the room, then out of closed doors and windows into a communal area.

He say , along with "do you know who I am" , that smoking in a condominium room is illegal and next time he will call the police (because of who he is). 

Is smoking inside a condo illegal?

[Surelynot]

I would agree with him.........smoking in a condo anywhere is a fire hazard.....even ignoring the fact that I would also strongly object to breathing in someones second hand smoke.

[from the home of CC]

wouldn't that depend on the condo rules in place? btw being a non smoker I don't like the smell wafting over to my balcony. In the past I've lit handfuls of incense to counter it lol..

Edited May 4, 2021 by from the home of CC

[Liverpool Lou]

14 minutes ago, Patanawet said:

I am having a dispute with a neighbour. He is objecting to my partner smoking on our balcony, saying it permeates into the room ...

Is smoking inside a condo illegal?

Unless the Juristic Person has said that it is, it's probably not but it sounds as though, regardless of your partner's smoke getting to his condo from your balcony, you just want to ignore him anyway.   

 

Why not ask your partner to show some consideration for your neighbours by not smoking there?   That would be nice and neighbourly, don't you think?

 

Your thread title is "Smoking in room", that probably wouldn't be a problem but your partner is smoking on the balcony, not in the room.   Why is that, do you not like the smell of her fag smoke in your room, either?   Just like your neighbours don't like it in their room?

Edited May 4, 2021 by Liverpool Lou

[OneMoreFarang]

18 minutes ago, Patanawet said:

I am having a dispute with a neighbour. He is objecting to my partner smoking on our balcony, saying it permeates into the room, then out of closed doors and windows into a communal area.

He say , along with "do you know who I am" , that smoking in a condominium room is illegal and next time he will call the police (because of who he is). 

Is smoking inside a condo illegal?

If my neighbors in the condominium next door make too much noise at night then I call the security and/or I inform the management of the building. I don't call the police, that's not their job.

I guess the same applies to smoking. If, and this is a big if, smoking on the balcony is illegal then he should first speak to you and then to the management, not to the police.

[BritManToo]

16 minutes ago, Patanawet said:

He is objecting to my partner smoking on our balcony, saying it permeates into the room, then out of closed doors and windows into a communal area.

I'd tell him to take it up with your partner.

Why get involved when he isn't complaining about you?

[BritManToo]

9 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Your thread title is "Smoking in room", that probably wouldn't be a problem but your partner is smoking on the balcony, not in the room.

......... do you not like the smell of her fag smoke in your room,

Thailand passed a law making it illegal to smoke in your home, there is no law about smoking outside on the balcony.

 

Where did it say the partner was female, or the OP was male for that matter?

Edited May 4, 2021 by BritManToo

[Surelynot]

How in God's name do people think it is acceptable to smoke knowing the smoke can drift into someone else's apartment.......laws or no laws it is totally unacceptable.

[northsouthdevide]

Legal or not, I don't know,

But if I had a choice of living  next door to your partner, or your neighbour, I'd pick the neighbour every time.

[Patanawet]

46 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

I would agree with him.........smoking in a condo anywhere is a fire hazard.....even ignoring the fact that I would also strongly object to breathing in someones second hand smoke.

Thank you and whilst I agree, I asked a legal question, not for a lecture.

[Patanawet]

1 minute ago, northsouthdevide said:

Legal or not, I don't know,

But if I had a choice of living  next door to your partner, or your neighbour, I'd pick the neighbour every time.

Thanks but you did not answer my question.

[Liverpool Lou]

23 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Thailand passed a law making it illegal to smoke in your home, there is no law about smoking outside on the balcony.

 

Where did it say the partner was female, or the OP was male for that matter?

"Thailand passed a law making it illegal to smoke in your home, there is no law about smoking outside on the balcony".

Didn't say that there is.

 

"Where did it say the partner was female, or the OP was male for that matter?"

Where does it say that they aren't but what does it matter what I assumed?   I was addressing the smoking problem, not the sex of those involved.

[Surelynot]

3 minutes ago, northsouthdevide said:

Legal or not, I don't know,

But if I had a choice of living  next door to your partner, or your neighbour, I'd pick the neighbour every time.

Back of the net.

[Patanawet]

31 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Thailand passed a law making it illegal to smoke in your home, there is no law about smoking outside on the balcony.

 

Where did it say the partner was female, or the OP was male for that matter?

Thanks, that's the  info I was after.

[BenDeCosta]

just ask your partner to go downstairs and smoke in the street, problem solved.

[Liverpool Lou]

57 minutes ago, Patanawet said:

Is smoking inside a condo illegal?

Apparently it is...

https://www.holidify.com/pages/smoking-in-thailand-2597.html#:~:text=Smokers are not allowed to,have designated areas for smoking.

 

Condos are on that list.

Edited May 4, 2021 by Liverpool Lou

[Surelynot]

Just now, Liverpool Lou said:

Apparently it is...

https://www.holidify.com/pages/smoking-in-thailand-2597.html#:~:text=Smokers are not allowed to,have designated areas for smoking.

The argument will now extend to ........."is the balcony part of the condo"....rather than "what is the right thing to do"?

[Liverpool Lou]

3 minutes ago, Patanawet said:

35 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Thailand passed a law making it illegal to smoke in your home, there is no law about smoking outside on the balcony.

 

Where did it say the partner was female, or the OP was male for that matter?

Thanks, that's the  info I was after.

Don't be so sure that it's correct in its application to your situation.  Smoking in condos is illegal, apparently.

[Liverpool Lou]

2 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

4 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Apparently it is...

https://www.holidify.com/pages/smoking-in-thailand-2597.html#:~:text=Smokers are not allowed to,have designated areas for smoking.

The argument will now extend to ........."is the balcony part of the condo"....rather than "what is the right thing to do"?

From that link...

1. There is a 5 meters exclusion zone around the entrances and exit areas of all significant public spaces.

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

From that link...

1. There is a 5 meters exclusion zone around the entrances and exit areas of all significant public spaces.

Only playing devil's advocate.......apartments aren't public spaces......so balconies might not be covered by that!!!

[holy cow cm]

If your partner is smoking too frequent then this is a problem, but you might want to ask your partner to do it later at night. Or you could just tell you neighbor to close their balcony door or window when they smell the smoke because it is not their place or a common shared place. I can see both points. Electronic cigs you can't even smell.  . 

[ThailandRyan]

13 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

Electronic cigs you can't even smell. 

Not always true. They have fruity flavors they add to the vape liquid so it smells like a fruit, gum or whatever.  However, it is not as disgusting as cigarette smoke wafting into your house through an open door. 

[baansgr]

Tell him to close his windows/doors. Unless it's a condo regulation, your partner can smoke on your balcony. He could be more considerate and move if he doesn't like it.

[Patong2021]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I'd tell him to take it up with your partner.

Why get involved when he isn't complaining about you?

The responsible party is the  owner or leaseholder of the unit. It is the leaseholder or owner who is required to follow condo rules and  who is responsible for conduct of guests.

 

Must be a very heavy smoker and/or the condominium is poorly built if smoke seeps in so easily.  A balcony fan may help. Can't be much fun living so close to someone  who smells like ashtray and has the bad skin, breath and teeth that goes with it.

 

[tomazbodner]

Our condo does (among other things) not allow smoking on balcony or common areas and implies fines for each reported case. They also impose fines for not wearing mask in common area.

 

They are all listed in the house rules in their Home app. Along with fines.

 

All they collect is donated to Red Cross though.

[bwpage3]

With all the psycho's running around Thailand, why would you risk making trouble for yourself?

 

He probably has a lot more friends than you.

[gargamon]

3 hours ago, Surelynot said:

The argument will now extend to ........."is the balcony part of the condo"....rather than "what is the right thing to do"?

Well that's easy to answer. The balcony square footage (meterage?) is included in the size of the condo, therefore it is part of the condo. No smoking there obviously. 

[Meat Pie 47]

2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Not always true. They have fruity flavors they add to the vape liquid so it smells like a fruit, gum or whatever.  However, it is not as disgusting as cigarette smoke wafting into your house through an open door. 

They should ban eating durian in the condos or on balconies

[jackdd]

This could potentially be applied:

Here at my condo they put up up a bunch of signs saying no smoking in the condo, on the balcony, or common areas, besides of in designated smoking areas.

It's by the way absolutely possible that the smell from the balcony enters his condo, so be considerate and tell your partner to stop smoking, whatever any laws or rules say.

[ukrules]

I wonder what the neighbour would say if you were to have a BBQ on the balcony