Must Read Thailand reports 3,052 COVID-19 cases, 24 new deaths

[dinsdale]

4 minutes ago, WhatsNext said:

 

Death is a part of life, every death is tragic and eventually all deaths are unavoidable. Trying to scare people into sitting at home with a mask on their face never seeing anyone else again because of a relatively mild risk factor is just as dangerous if not more so. 

 

Throwing emotions around and accusing others of not caring is counterproductive to the extreme. 

Yes some people die from this virus. Just shy of 3,500,000 people so far.

[anchadian]

 

So it appears that tourist and those on extended stay will have to pay for the vaccines.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1395948950851489795

 

Groups of foreigners who are eligible to join the free vaccination rollout that is due to start in June.

 

Please note, it is unlikely that foreign tourists will be included and you will need to wait for private hospitals to start selling vaccine packages around October #Thailand

[law ling]

41 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

BMA and military told prepare facilities to handle surge in COVID-19 infections

 

The first step calls for expansion of the capacity of the BMA’s hospitals and assembly of field type hospital extensions, to accommodate more than 5,500 patients, up from the current 1,218.

 

If infections increase, the second step calls for non-severe cases to be quarantined and treated in hotels, to be arranged by the BMA.

 

In the third step, the City Hall must set up a field hospital, modelled on the one in Samut Sakhon, using the facilities at Bangkok Arena, the Thai-Japanese sports stadium and the Bang Khun Thian hospital.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/bma-and-military-told-prepare-facilities-to-handle-surge-in-covid-19-infections/

 

Good.

 

... but at the present rate of new infections, that's just two days worth.

[WhatsNext]

3 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Yes some people die from this virus. Just shy of 3,500,000 people so far.

 

Yes that's totally right, every year some 114.285.000 people die. We have close to 8 billion people, average life expectancy is 70. 

Those 3.5 million people that died from, or in many cases WITH covid which is something entirely different, are 3% of the deaths. Or if you prefer 0,04375% of the living.

 

Cancer, heart diseases, strokes all cause way more deaths than covid. Keep things in perspective and ... in check over something that gives you a tiny risk of dying. Thai population : 69 million, daily infections 3000, time to catch covid : 63 Years, chances of dying from your infection, less than 1 in 500. Makes for a 1 in 31.500 chance. 

 

Looking at your motorbike is more dangerous

 

[AndyFoxy]

53 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

BMA and military told prepare facilities to handle surge in COVID-19 infections

 

The first step calls for expansion of the capacity of the BMA’s hospitals and assembly of field type hospital extensions, to accommodate more than 5,500 patients, up from the current 1,218.

 

If infections increase, the second step calls for non-severe cases to be quarantined and treated in hotels, to be arranged by the BMA.

 

In the third step, the City Hall must set up a field hospital, modelled on the one in Samut Sakhon, using the facilities at Bangkok Arena, the Thai-Japanese sports stadium and the Bang Khun Thian hospital.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/bma-and-military-told-prepare-facilities-to-handle-surge-in-covid-19-infections/

They wouldn't be doing this if they were confident in the current prevention measures.

[Swimfan]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

I would be worried if the number of hospital walk-in cases were increasing. 

Really? I would be worried about the people who are not presenting. People who are potentially ignoring their symptoms for a multitude of reasons. Don’t want to go to hospital or have to keep on working to feed their family as no income support available. 

[gearbox]

41 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Astra Zeneca have already confirmed this.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/does-vaccine-work-on-indian-variant-b1850654.html

 

The Covid-19 strain that emerged in India, and was detected among workers at an Italian-Thai Development construction camp in Bangkok’s Lak Si area, does not resist the AstraZeneca vaccine, the Department of Disease Control has clarified

 

On Friday, the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration had revealed that B.1617.2, the strain of the Covid-19 virus that emerged in India, was found among 15 infected workers at the camp, which has become a cluster after 1,060 of 1,667 workers living there tested positive for Covid-19 on Wednesday.

 

Later that day, the Department of Medical Science found 36 more infections with the strain seen in India in 80 positive samples they had collected from the site, while the rest are B.1.1.7, the strain that first emerged in the UK.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40001168

 

"“Urgent experimental data is being generated (for this variant),” said Sharon Peacock of the UK Covid-19 Genomics Consortium."

 

"The Covid-19 strain that emerged in India, and was detected among workers at an Italian-Thai Development construction camp in Bangkok’s Lak Si area, does not resist the AstraZeneca vaccine, the Department of Disease Control has clarified"

 

The two quote from the two sources cited are not aligning much. The article from Independent is anything but clear.

 

 

[Danderman123]

3 minutes ago, Swimfan said:

Really? I would be worried about the people who are not presenting. People who are potentially ignoring their symptoms for a multitude of reasons. Don’t want to go to hospital or have to keep on working to feed their family as no income support available. 

Exactly why the number of walk-ins would concern me. 

 

Normally, the number to use would be the positivity ratio from random sampling, but right now the testing is focused on the Bangkok clusters. 

[dinsdale]

3 hours ago, WhatsNext said:

 

Yes that's totally right, every year some 114.285.000 people die. We have close to 8 billion people, average life expectancy is 70. 

Those 3.5 million people that died from, or in many cases WITH covid which is something entirely different, are 3% of the deaths. Or if you prefer 0,04375% of the living.

 

Cancer, heart diseases, strokes all cause way more deaths than covid. Keep things in perspective and ... in check over something that gives you a tiny risk of dying. Thai population : 69 million, daily infections 3000, time to catch covid : 63 Years, chances of dying from your infection, less than 1 in 500. Makes for a 1 in 31.500 chance. 

 

Looking at your motorbike is more dangerous

 

All true but it's an outdated arguement. No covid = -3,500,000 deaths and rising. Of course a number of these may have died from other things like natural causes, cancer, road accidents etc but the fact is they didn't. They died from Covid-19.

 

[Danderman123]

6 minutes ago, WhatsNext said:

 

 

Those 3.5 million people that died from, or in many cases WITH covid which is something entirely different, are 3% of the deaths.

Classic Denier misinformation. 

 

You have no idea of the process for determining cause of death, but you believe the disinfo sent to you by the Denier Lie Factory.

 

The best evidence from excess mortality data is that Covid deaths are significantly undercounted. 

[gearbox]

 I hope the vaccines would hold, just noting for clarity that there is no final data with attached numbers. If the vaccines don't hold that would ruin my travel plans yet again. I'm scheduled for Sinovac jab next week, but if AZ and Sinovac are not very effective against the Indian variants, I definitely need to go to Europe to get a Pfizer jab.

 

[Bkk Brian]

14 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said:

They wouldn't be doing this if they were confident in the current prevention measures.

Exactly its also sensible and realistic. Basic risk assessment. Prepare for the worst but hope for the best. Far better than playing down the situation like a handful of individuals on here do.

[AndyFoxy]

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Exactly its also sensible and realistic. Basic risk assessment. Prepare for the worst but hope for the best. Far better than playing down the situation like a handful of individuals on here do.

You mean like the government initially did?

[Bkk Brian]

12 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Exactly why the number of walk-ins would concern me. 

 

Normally, the number to use would be the positivity ratio from random sampling, but right now the testing is focused on the Bangkok clusters. 

Its a combination of both numbers that is important. Both hospital walk ins and active testing

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, AndyFoxy said:

You mean like the government initially did?

No not at all. Its their responibility that this situation is so bad. Nobody can argue that. Lockdowns should have been imposed at Songkran.

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, WhatsNext said:

 

Yes that's totally right, every year some 114.285.000 people die. We have close to 8 billion people, average life expectancy is 70. 

Those 3.5 million people that died from, or in many cases WITH covid which is something entirely different, are 3% of the deaths. Or if you prefer 0,04375% of the living.

 

Cancer, heart diseases, strokes all cause way more deaths than covid. Keep things in perspective and  ... in check over something that gives you a tiny risk of dying. Thai population : 69 million, daily infections 3000, time to catch covid : 63 Years, chances of dying from your infection, less than 1 in 500. Makes for a 1 in 31.500 chance. 

 

Looking at your motorbike is more dangerous

 

Your sense of risk is clearly not working. 

 

The UK has the same size population as Thailand and had 127,000 deaths. Thailand may be in for a similar outcome, if the current restrictions don't work.

 

Why not give us similar statistics for India and then you can tell us the Covid is no big deal. 

 

[Danderman123]

30 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Its a combination of both numbers that is important. Both hospital walk ins and active testing

Yes, in theory. 

 

But we don't get the random sampling data, and it's my understanding that mass testing is now targeting clusters. 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

Yes, in theory. 

 

But we don't get the random sampling data, and it's my understanding that mass testing is now targeting clusters. 

We do every few days, last one was 7% for Bangkok, hospital rates far higher.

[Danderman123]

19 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

We do every few days, last one was 7% for Bangkok, hospital rates far higher.

I saw a map of Bangkok showing positivity rates, the clusters were 6+%, some areas were 1%.

 

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I saw a map of Bangkok showing positivity rates, the clusters were 6+%, some areas were 1%.

 

"Overall" positivity rate for outreach COVID testing in Bangkok of 7.04 percent.

 

[anchadian]

Barrow is missing those on ventilators.

 

Official #COVID19 update in #Thailand on Saturday:

 

Since 1 April 2021

 

97,255 people infected (+41 imported cases & +3,011 local cases)

665 dead +24 42,955

in care 1,216

in serious condition

2,900 discharged from care

 

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1395976110530199553

 

[anchadian]

Today there are 2,447 new cases and 24 deaths. There are 42,955 people in care. 1,216 patients are in a serious condition and 409 on ventilators. Today, 2900 were discharged. 328 of these are inmates #Thailand

 

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1395977997878919168

 

[anchadian]

Today there are 24 deaths in #Thailand: 12 males and 12 females Median age is 64.5 (31-96 years) Most deaths in Bangkok (13), Samut Prakan (3), Chiang Mai (2), Ratchaburi (2), and one each in Nonthaburi, Surat Thani, Yasothon, Nakhon Nayok

 

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1395977037089689600

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

"Overall" positivity rate for outreach COVID testing in Bangkok of 7.04 percent.

 

 

 

Updated report for Bangkok with a new testing positivitity rate as of today:

 

[anchadian]

Out of the 2,406 local cases, most in:

 

Bangkok - 1,191

Phetchaburi - 437

Nonthaburi - 99

Samut Prakan - 94

Chonburi - 71

Pathum Thani - 68

Samut Sakhon - 49

Yala - 43

Ratchaburi - 29

Tak - 20

Songkhla - 20

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1395979391654457344

 

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

Updated report for Bangkok with a new testing positivitity rate as of today:

 

Thanks, not good news though, up it goes

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

And lets not forget, we are about to enter the Wet Season.

Even better conditions for disease transmission, and possible Mutation.

 

The canard that climate has any influence on coronavirus was shot down around this time last year.

[ikke1959]

16 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Out of the 2,406 local cases, most in:

 

Bangkok - 1,191

Phetchaburi - 437

Nonthaburi - 99

Samut Prakan - 94

Chonburi - 71

Pathum Thani - 68

Samut Sakhon - 49

Yala - 43

Ratchaburi - 29

Tak - 20

Songkhla - 20

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1395979391654457344

 

And where are the 1250 other cases in Phetchaburi??? Thursday 682 and yesterday as to read on other sites 1690( included Thursday)

[anchadian]

https://twitter.com/Tatnews_Org/status/1395984027056697345

 

[Misty]

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Yes some people die from this virus. Just shy of 3,500,000 people so far.

 

Or possibly quite a few more.  In modelling covid-19's death toll, The Economist magazine estimates there have been 7m-13m excess deaths world wide - the difference in part explained because the official statistics in many countries exclude victims who did not test positive for coronavirus before dying—which can be a substantial majority in places with little capacity for testing.  And some are never tested after death, for a variety of reasons.

 

https://www.economist.com/briefing/2021/05/15/there-have-been-7m-13m-excess-deaths-worldwide-during-the-pandemic

 

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker