Popular Post snoop1130 Posted June 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2021 BANGKOK, June 9 (TNA) – The Chulabhorn Royal Academy priced the COVID-19 vaccine by Sinopharm at 888 baht per dose and prohibited buyers from passing the cost to vaccine recipients. CRA secretary-general Nithi Mahanonda on his Facebook account announced the price and conditions on the organizations that intended to buy Sinopharm vaccine doses from the academy. The 888-baht price covers the costs of the vaccine, its transport and insurance on side effects. Full Story: https://tna.mcot.net/english-news-713279 -- © Copyright TNA 2021-06-09 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) What is happening here...CRA is purchasing Sinopharm vaccines from the manufacturer and selling them to charitable hospitals/clinics in Thailand for 888 a dose? These organizations then turn around and administer it free to their clients/patients? Edited June 9, 2021 by Pattaya Spotter 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, snoop1130 said: The 888-baht price covers the costs of the vaccine, its transport and insurance on side effects. 888 eh .. sounds a a bit of a gamble .. And is it not a bit cheap Charlie when the AZ stuff is a whole lot more .. get what you pay for I suppose .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalawaan Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Its not for the likes of us, 888 is such a Chinese price cliche. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted June 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) If I were offered this vaccine by one of these charitable institutions I think I would take it. I would offer to pay for it (if I could be sure the money was not diverted)! I am not desperate but I am concerned. I am 64, have diabetes which requires injections to control it, and work (part time ) as a teacher. I have been refused registration/vaccination despite this because I am a foreigner. If I get Covid it would likely, for me, be very serious, perhaps even fatal. The efficacy of this stuff may be less than is desirable, but if it reduces the severity of the infection, then good enough. Of course this now raises the inevitable question, how does one discover when, where and if they are available? Edited June 9, 2021 by herfiehandbag 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 "Insurance on the side effects". Worrying. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 A post baiting another member has been removed. A post with a trolling video has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eindhoven Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said: What is happening here...CRA is purchasing Sinopharm vaccines from the manufacturer and selling them to charitable hospitals/clinics in Thailand for 888 a dose? These organizations then turn around and administer it free to their clients/patients? "However, vaccine recipients may have to pay service fees to the hospitals where they will be inoculated against the virus." Edited June 9, 2021 by Eindhoven 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Terrific value. Less that half the price of an effective Western vaccine. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyna Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Poet said: Terrific value. Less that half the price of an effective Western vaccine. AZ in EU free, EU paid 2.50 €, that's about 88 baht. AZ about as effective as Sinopharm. AZ is a UK/Swedish company, so that's Western. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hyna said: AZ is a UK/Swedish company, so that's Western. Um ... did you mean to respond to my post? I said nothing about AZ. Publicly available mass testing results show all the Western vaccines, including AZ, to be roughly equally effective. 8 minutes ago, Hyna said: AZ about as effective as Sinopharm. There are no publicly available mass testing results for Sinopharm. We do know, from results in various countries, that Sinovac is around 50% effective. 8 minutes ago, Hyna said: AZ in EU free, EU paid 2.50 €, that's about 88 baht. The price they are quoting in this report is 888 baht per dose of Sinopharm, not 88 baht. The supposed price for Moderna in Thailand will be around 1,600 baht per dose, so, roughly twice the price of Sinopharm. Edited June 9, 2021 by Poet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyna Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Poet said: Um ... did you mean to respond to my post? I said nothing about AZ. Publicly available mass testing results show all the Western vaccines, including AZ, to be roughly equally effective. There are no publicly available mass testing results for Sinopharm. We do know, from results in various countries, that Sinovac is around 50% effective. The price they are quoting in this report is 888 baht per dose of Sinopharm, not 88 baht. The supposed price for Moderna in Thailand will be around 1,600 baht per dose, so, roughly twice the price of Sinopharm. So you post should read "Terrific value. Less that half the price of an effective Western vaccine IN THAILAND". We seem to misunderstand each other easily ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post realfunster Posted June 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Poet said: Terrific value. Less that half the price of an effective Western vaccine. Ground control to Major Tom... AstraZeneca, in collaboration with the University of Oxford, previously signed a $1.2 billion deal to produce 300 million doses of its adenovirus vector-based candidate to the U.S. government. That roughly translates into $4 per dose, though the entire grant also covers funding for clinical development. Johnson & Johnson is offering 100 million doses of its candidate, Ad26.COV2.S, to the U.S. for $1 billion in total, or $10 per dose. Pfizer and German partner BioNTech agreed to ship 100 million doses of their mRNA shot to the U.S. government for $1.95 billion ($19.5 per dose). Moderna said it’s chargingbetween $32 to $37 per dose of its mRNA version to smaller-volume purchases in the single-million dose range, but its 100 million-dose deal with the U.S. came in at $1.525 billion($15.25 per dose), not including about $1 billion in development funds. https://www.fiercepharma.com/vaccines/china-sinopharm-chief-narrows-down-covid-19-vaccine-price-to-within-145-for-2-dose-regimen 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 hours ago, realfunster said: Ground control to Major Tom... 2 hours ago, realfunster said: Moderna said it’s chargingbetween $32 to $37 per dose of its mRNA version to smaller-volume purchases Maybe use this forum's search function to discover the recent announcement about what Moderna will actually cost in Thailand. That is what we are discussing. Claimed smaller-volume global pricing is irrelevant, no national buyers will pay anything close to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommers Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 888 baht for something so bad that in the UAE they are giving a third dose to try and get immunity to even basic levels seems like a poor option to me. And all countries where this vaccine has been used are seeing heavy increases in new cases. So why bother? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkk6060 Posted June 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2021 A price of 555 would be more appropriate. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pizzachang Posted June 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2021 12 hours ago, Justgrazing said: 888 eh .. sounds a a bit of a gamble .. And is it not a bit cheap Charlie when the AZ stuff is a whole lot more .. get what you pay for I suppose .. Hahah, the gamble is the chance of getting injected with an experiment or a vaccine that has had at least a year longer testing. The traditional [weakened/dead virus], while not totally without risk, has been a documented success, with most other lethal viruses worldwide. Personally, I have seen no evidence that changes my mind about taking an experimental drug, for a virus with such an extremely high survival rate. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgver Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Finally, the Sinopharm Covid-19 vaccine will give it free from the Provincial Administration Organisation starting 20 June 2021 (hopefully on time) to the public. Sinopharm is much more better than AstraZeneca and Sinovac. Pfizer and Moderna is a little better than Sinopharm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzachang Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, pizzachang said: Hahah, the gamble is the chance of getting injected with an experiment or a vaccine that has had at least a year longer testing. The traditional [weakened/dead virus], while not totally without risk, has been a documented success, with most other lethal viruses worldwide. Personally, I have seen no evidence that changes my mind about taking an experimental drug, for a virus with such an extremely high survival rate. And a firsthand report about "new variants" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 13 hours ago, chalawaan said: Its not for the likes of us, 888 is such a Chinese price cliche. 999 tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfharrison Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 13 hours ago, herfiehandbag said: If I were offered this vaccine by one of these charitable institutions I think I would take it. I would offer to pay for it (if I could be sure the money was not diverted)! I am not desperate but I am concerned. I am 64, have diabetes which requires injections to control it, and work (part time ) as a teacher. I have been refused registration/vaccination despite this because I am a foreigner. If I get Covid it would likely, for me, be very serious, perhaps even fatal. The efficacy of this stuff may be less than is desirable, but if it reduces the severity of the infection, then good enough. Of course this now raises the inevitable question, how does one discover when, where and if they are available? That's not good news. My school registered me to the local hospital using my Social Security No. and Tax No. along with passport etc. I had my first shot of AZ on Monday. Maybe see if you can ask social security to sort it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfharrison Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 9 hours ago, Poet said: There are no publicly available mass testing results for Sinopharm. We do know, from results in various countries, that Sinovac is around 50% effective. The WHO said it prevented symptomatic disease in 51% of those vaccinated and prevented severe symptoms and hospitalisation in 100% of samples. Not too bad really, no severe symptoms or hospitalisation in 100% of cases 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, mfharrison said: The WHO said it prevented symptomatic disease in 51% of those vaccinated and prevented severe symptoms and hospitalisation in 100% of samples. Not too bad really, no severe symptoms or hospitalisation in 100% of cases How big was the sample? Who gathered the results? Were they independently verified by a credible organization? Why is anyone still taking the W.H.O. seriously on anything connected with China? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtong Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, mfharrison said: The WHO said it prevented symptomatic disease in 51% of those vaccinated and prevented severe symptoms and hospitalisation in 100% of samples. Not too bad really, no severe symptoms or hospitalisation in 100% of cases You are quoting Sinovac, that number. Sinopharm if I recall correctly has 79% efficiency, ie. considerably better results than Sinovac (51%) or AZ (63%), But less than Pfeizer (95%), Morderna (94%), or Sputnik (91%). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Surprised there isn't a fortune teller on hand to determine the "lucky" price for each recipient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaoleBoy Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Do a search for Sinopharm Covid spikes to see countries that relied on Sinopharm vaccine and how Covid-19 is spiking again - UAE, Bahrain, Mongolia, ... In Bahrain, however, a vaccination drive that relied heavily on Sinopharm has so far produced at best mixed results and failed to curb new cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, mfharrison said: That's not good news. My school registered me to the local hospital using my Social Security No. and Tax No. along with passport etc. I had my first shot of AZ on Monday. Maybe see if you can ask social security to sort it out. I will try that, but so far every angle I have tried founders on the rock of the local Ministry of Public Health whose policy is " no vaccination for foreigners". I was told that, the school was told that. They appear to have the final say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfharrison Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, tingtong said: You are quoting Sinovac, that number. Sinopharm if I recall correctly has 79% efficiency, ie. considerably better results than Sinovac (51%) or AZ (63%), But less than Pfeizer (95%), Morderna (94%), or Sputnik (91%). The WHO said... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfharrison Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Poet said: How big was the sample? Who gathered the results? Were they independently verified by a credible organization? Why is anyone still taking the W.H.O. seriously on anything connected with China? Bloomberg reported real world findings in Indo "Indonesia tracked 128,290 health workers in capital city Jakarta from January to March and found that the vaccine protected 98% of them from death and 96% from hospitalization as soon as seven days after the second dose, Pandji Dhewantara, a Health Ministry official who oversaw the study, said in a Wednesday press conference." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfharrison Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, HaoleBoy said: Do a search for Sinopharm Covid spikes to see countries that relied on Sinopharm vaccine and how Covid-19 is spiking again - UAE, Bahrain, Mongolia, ... In Bahrain, however, a vaccination drive that relied heavily on Sinopharm has so far produced at best mixed results and failed to curb new cases. I did a search, interesting that the top 5 hits are American news outlets. I did take this from the BBC though: "Of the doses administered (not including Sputnik), 57% were Sinopharm and 43% Covishield. We don't know how many out of those fully vaccinated people who tested positive for Covid had received Sinopharm, and how many had been given AstraZeneca. We do know that about two-thirds of those who tested positive largely had mild or no symptoms, according to the country's health commissioner, Dr Jude Gedeon. Of those who needed admission to hospital, 80% were people who hadn't been vaccinated, and a majority of these also had other health conditions." Again though this is Sinopharm not Sinovac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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