2 million more Sinovac vaccine doses arrive in Thailand Wednesday

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Two million more doses of China’s Sinovac vaccine arrived in Thailand today (Wednesday), bringing the total of vaccine delivered from China to the country to 10.5 million doses, according to the Chinese Embassy in Bangkok.

 

“Chinese vaccine will help Thais fight against the spread of COVID-19,” said the embassy in a Facebook post.

 

Sinovac has been the main vaccine administered in Thailand to date. The government originally ordered only two million doses of the vaccine, but later changed its plan and has ordered millions more, as the country awaits local production of AstraZeneca vaccine and import of other makes.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/2-million-more-sinovac-vaccine-doses-delivered-to-thailand/

 

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[RichardColeman]

Think Thais should look at what is happening now in Indonesia with Sinovac - 350 Doctors infected with Covid 19 after Sinvac vaccines. Waste of money, 

[jerrymahoney]

As per Indonesia (May 12, 2021)

 

Sinovac Biotech Ltd.’s vaccine is wiping out Covid-19 among health workers in Indonesia, an encouraging sign for the dozens of developing countries reliant on the controversial Chinese shot, which performed far worse than western vaccines in clinical trials.

 

Indonesia tracked 128,290 health workers in capital city Jakarta from January to March and found that the vaccine protected 98% of them from death and 96% from hospitalization as soon as seven days after the second dose, Pandji Dhewantara, a Health Ministry official who oversaw the study, said in a Wednesday press conference.

 

Dhewantara also said that 94% of the workers had been protected against symptomatic infection -- an extraordinary result that goes beyond what was measured in the shot’s numerous clinical trials.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-11/china-s-sinovac-shot-found-highly-effective-in-real-world-study

[rabas]

 

Bringing a pea shooter to a gun fight, with all the new variants.

 

Order Moderna and Pfizer, the Philippines did.

 

[Bkk Brian]

Isn't Thailand lucky, the least efficient vaccine to fight the most contagious strains in the world currently in Thailand. A very sad reflection on the governments complacency and refusal to order adequate amounts and adequate supplies of similar priced mrna vaccines months ago and now having no choice but to order this.

 

 

[sucit]

Affectionately referred to as the chinovac

[Marvin Hagler]

This vaccine is all but useless against the new strains and as such is a completely ineffective tool for fighting this pandemic.

 

Chinas vaccine diplomacy plan has failed spectacularly.

[mikebell]

3 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Think Thais should look at what is happening now in Indonesia with Sinovac - 350 Doctors infected with Covid 19 after Sinvac vaccines. Waste of money, 

Not for Anutin.  Despite inventing Covid in China, the Chinese vaccine is only 50% effective.

 

[jerrymahoney]

Shoulda. Coulda. Woulda. Had oughta. Maybe so. But this is what they got.

 

Now how to best deal with it

[wensiensheng]

That will cover 4 days worth of vaccinations at the 500k per day target rate.

 

They aren’t running this operation on a day to day basis are they? Cos it sure seems like it.

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3 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Think Thais should look at what is happening now in Indonesia with Sinovac - 350 Doctors infected with Covid 19 after Sinvac vaccines. Waste of money, 

90 percent of them had none or mild symptoms and made a complete recovery without treatment. One doctor, with a significant comorbidity died. And keep in mind that these are frontline workers repeatedly exposed to patients ill with the disease. Not a likely scenario for most of us.

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39 minutes ago, Marvin Hagler said:

This vaccine is all but useless against the new strains and as such is a completely ineffective tool for fighting this pandemic.

 

Chinas vaccine diplomacy plan has failed spectacularly.

Possibly useless for stopping the spread of the new variant, but not useless in preventing serious illness and death. And it can be very useful in preventing illness and death if sufficient numbers of people are vaccinated with it. As is the case in Serrana, Brazil.

[wensiensheng]

4 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

As per Indonesia (May 12, 2021)

 

Sinovac Biotech Ltd.’s vaccine is wiping out Covid-19 among health workers in Indonesia, an encouraging sign for the dozens of developing countries reliant on the controversial Chinese shot, which performed far worse than western vaccines in clinical trials.

 

Indonesia tracked 128,290 health workers in capital city Jakarta from January to March and found that the vaccine protected 98% of them from death and 96% from hospitalization as soon as seven days after the second dose, Pandji Dhewantara, a Health Ministry official who oversaw the study, said in a Wednesday press conference.

 

Dhewantara also said that 94% of the workers had been protected against symptomatic infection -- an extraordinary result that goes beyond what was measured in the shot’s numerous clinical trials.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-11/china-s-sinovac-shot-found-highly-effective-in-real-world-study

As the article itself notes, it’s not known what strain of Covid was involved. Sinovac was adequate against the original strain, question marks are against its effectiveness against alpha and delta.

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Realizing the source:

 

Vaccines stay effective in reducing symptoms in Delta-hit Indonesia: Sinovac

Chinese experts called for strict protective measures despite vaccination after 350 medical workers in Indonesia who received China's Sinovac were reportedly tested positive for COVID-19 amid an epidemic spike due to the Delta mutation.

The company also warned that vaccines cannot provide 100 percent protection but could reduce severity and death.   

About 308 medical workers in Kudus, where almost all local health workers in Kudus - around 6,000 people - have received the first and second doses of a vaccine, Badai Ismoyo, head of the health office in Kudus, Central Java, a district recently hit hard by the Delta variant, was quoted as saying by local media on Sunday.

 

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202106/1226825.shtml

 

 

 

Global Times, China's propaganda mouth piece, nice link, anything about the uighur treatment denial in there to?

Edited June 24, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[mtls2005]

China has so far delivered 12 lots of vaccines totaling 10.5 million doses to Thailand.

 

China has committed to sending 11 million Sinovac vaccines to Thailand between the months of June and August. This shipment, along with the 500,000 previously received at the beginning of the month, makes 2.5 million vaccines so far during that period.

 

Some overlap on those two quotes.

 

Saw another quote which said that 7.5 MM doses were still due for delivery.

 

I think we're at ~ 3.6 MM doeses of AZ so far.

 

 

Without Sinovac, the vaccination figures would be alarmingly low. For the numbers sake, Sinovac is brilliant.

 

241,639 doses adminstered yesterday. Up from the recent dip below 100,000, but far below the early peaks of over 400,000.

 

2,303,814 fully vaccinated.

 

First doses increasing as a percentage.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 24, 2021 by mtls2005

[RafPinto]

Well, hope they don't run out of validity because everyone I talk to, they don't want it.

Could probably donate it to another country to look good.

[RafPinto]

Read today about the  Delta+ variant.

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Global Times, China's propaganda mouth piece, nice link, anything about the uighur treatment denial in there to?

More accurate to rely on local news like the Jakarta Globe then. 

https://jakartaglobe.id/news/sinovac-vaccine-protects-health-workers-from-severe-covid19-in-deltahit-kudus

[Bkk Brian]

11 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

More accurate to rely on local news like the Jakarta Globe then. 

https://jakartaglobe.id/news/sinovac-vaccine-protects-health-workers-from-severe-covid19-in-deltahit-kudus

Thanks better, with no need for political bias

[John Drake]

4 hours ago, rabas said:

 

Bringing a pea shooter to a gun fight, with all the new variants.

 

Order Moderna and Pfizer, the Philippines did.

 

 

The Sinovac is better than nothing. And it appears to be almost as good as the AZ. Meanwhile, in a topic just posted the allotment of Moderna to Thailand has been cut in half with the 3800 baht price now to be adjusted. Help isn't coming. Not from our embassies (unless you are Chinese or French) and not from the importation of other vaccines. Get Sinovac or AZ or take your chances.

[Eric Loh]

10 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

The Sinovac is better than nothing. And it appears to be almost as good as the AZ. Meanwhile, in a topic just posted the allotment of Moderna to Thailand has been cut in half with the 3800 baht price now to be adjusted. Help isn't coming. Not from our embassies (unless you are Chinese or French) and not from the importation of other vaccines. Get Sinovac or AZ or take your chances.

Sound advise to get vaccinated with whatever vaccine available. This Florida story reaffirmed the soundness of getting vaccinated against those not vaccinated. Summarizing the news, infection outbreak in office resulted in infections and deaths amongst unvaccinated staffs. The one that was spared the drama was a vaccinated person.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-outbreak-killed-two-florida-175639886.html

[mtls2005]

2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Sound advise to get vaccinated with whatever vaccine available.

 

Sage advice.

 

Can we move on to the next step?

 

Now how do we get vaccinated?

 

Yes, I understand flying home to the U.S. is one option.

 

 

 

 

[jerrymahoney]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Global Times, China's propaganda mouth piece, nice link, anything about the uighur treatment denial in there to?

Well that was a softball pitch wasn't it. Even though China media it was still quoting the Indonesian healthcare official. ... but I had to leave for the airport.

Edited June 24, 2021 by jerrymahoney

[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Well that was a softball pitch wasn't it. Even though China media it was still quoting the Indonesian healthcare official. ... but I had to leave for the airport.

Interesting to see your preferred reading material. 

[Eric Loh]

9 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Sage advice.

 

Can we move on to the next step?

 

Now how do we get vaccinated?

 

Yes, I understand flying home to the U.S. is one option.

 

 

 

 

 

I think the next step will be to treat Covid-19 as endemic as the new normal. The bad news is that Covid-19 may not go away but the good news is that it's possible to live with it and treat it similar to how we treat fluenza. With vaccines, better medicines and better scientific knowledge to combat the virus, we can armed ourselves better and learn to live with it. This normality can only happen if Thailand reached the vaccination target. So all need to play a role. Will have to leave few anti-vaxxers behind and hope they made it eventually. 

[newnative]

Always just Sinovac. Never any quality vaccines ordered.   And, all quiet on the AZ front--must be a train wreck.  

[jerrymahoney]

19 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Interesting to see your preferred reading material. 

Yes per Godfather Part II: Keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

Quote

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Yes per Godfather Part II: Keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

 

Yes of course ????

[sapson]

Totally ludicrous just 2 million, why with a population of 70 million and as mentioned by many its pretty ineffective and requires 2 doses.

 

Just so exasperating how these greedy barstewards continue to be in government with total inept handling of the pandemic . ..little testing countless figure fabrication and negligent disregard for the people with their vaccine policy based on money money money and licking the boots of their pay masters and not upsetting the the no.1 lunatic..

 

As guests in their country a lot of us would be happy ro pay for a single shot decent vaccine for ourselves and partners etc.......but the idiots cant even arrange that money making opportunity...... maybe October but now in doubt and not enough..........total incompetence, they are a total disgrace!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[John Drake]

58 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

 

I think the next step will be to treat Covid-19 as endemic as the new normal. The bad news is that Covid-19 may not go away but the good news is that it's possible to live with it and treat it similar to how we treat fluenza. With vaccines, better medicines and better scientific knowledge to combat the virus, we can armed ourselves better and learn to live with it. This normality can only happen if Thailand reached the vaccination target. So all need to play a role. Will have to leave few anti-vaxxers behind and hope they made it eventually. 

 

What I don't understand is how so many comments a year or so ago were speculating that Covid would become weaker and less infectious as time goes on, as with earlier SARS infections. But that isn't happening. The newer mutations seem to be more deadly and more infectious, such as Delta.