kynikoi Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Fex Bluse said: As many of us have been saying for months, if they ramped up their testing nationwide, they'd find they have a multiple of these cases per day. 12K, 18K, who knows? Their testing is defective. If they were smart, they'd pour significant resources into a national PREMPTIVE TESTING drive. Alas, they are not smart. It really doesn't matter. There are three options: More vaccines Three week lockdown Both Non of those options are under consideration. Take your Sinovac and shut up /s 1
spidermike007 Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 7 hours ago, dinsdale said: Up, up and away. A hardy congrats to the PM on showing the world just how good Thailand is at balancing the economy and Sars-Cov-2 spread. "Some risk must be taken". 14,800 community infections and 146 deaths in 3 days and well over 20,000 infections and over 200 deaths for this week. Some risk indeed. Not trying to defend a con artist, but I think he was referring to the October tourism opening. At least there is a hint of a plan. In regard to the current situation, there is no plan. And nobody knows what the agenda is. If he still had 5% of his credibility (amongst his remaining super conservative supporters) left a few months ago, he has spent it all. He is now the zero man. Possibly less than zero.
kynikoi Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Exploring Thailand said: I certainly would. Despite the massaging of the figures, Phuket is set to have one one of the highest per capita vaccination rates on the planet. Entry is rigorously controlled. Beaches are quiet. Hotels are cheap. Social-distancing is easy. I'd prefer that they'd used exclusively AstraZeneca, but, even so, if I were stuck in the UK now, I'd jump at the chance to go to Phuket. 10000b min in Covid testing expenses. Upon entry, test positive and go to hospital jail. Enjoy. 1
Laughing Gravy Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Exploring Thailand said: I certainly would. Despite the massaging of the figures, Phuket is set to have one one of the highest per capita vaccination rates on the planet. Entry is rigorously controlled. Beaches are quiet. Hotels are cheap. Social-distancing is easy. I'd prefer that they'd used exclusively AstraZeneca, but, even so, if I were stuck in the UK now, I'd jump at the chance to go to Phuket. Good luck, it is an informed choice. I am sure you will find a few others to enjoy your holiday with. Most others have common sense and can see just how dangerous it can all end up being. I hope that you would have all the health insurance and documents that are required. Just in case. I would like it to playing a game of Russian roulette.????
brewsterbudgen Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Once again Thursday, the number of new cases going into the hospital/field hospital system (5,533) far outstripped the number of COVID patients being released (3,223). That means today's numbers brought an increase in the hospitalized population of 2,310 additional new cases, boosting the total hospitalized/field hospital population to 52,052. https://www.facebook.com/KhaosodEnglish/posts/4463305267021704 I'm sure it's been published elsewhere, but as you're the King of Covid stats, do you have the figure for the percentage of the 52,052 active cases who are in ICU or 'proper' hospital, as opposed to those in field hospital, who are presumably asymptomatic?
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 1, 2021 Thailand continues to vaccinate at a rate of less than half of what they need to be doing to meet their goal of fully vaccinating 70% of the population by year's end. They gave almost 255,000 doses in the most recent day. They needed to have given more than 516,000 to be on track to meeting their own self-declared year-end goal. They've had only one day since the start of the vaccination campaign, the second day, where they gave enough doses to be on track to meet their own target. https://www.facebook.com/KhaosodEnglish/posts/4463358230349741 2 1
Popular Post The Cipher Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said: I would like it to playing a game of Russian roulette.???? With a thousand cylinder revolver and one bullet. Edited July 1, 2021 by The Cipher 2 2
Popular Post Exploring Thailand Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said: Good luck, it is an informed choice. I am sure you will find a few others to enjoy your holiday with. Most others have common sense and can see just how dangerous it can all end up being. I hope that you would have all the health insurance and documents that are required. Just in case. I would like it to playing a game of Russian roulette.???? Right now, it's a dangerous world. At this moment in time, I can't think of that many places I'd rather be than Phuket. 3
Laughing Gravy Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Cipher said: With a thousand cylinder revolver and one bullet. Well I love a joker as good as the next person but that statement is another story. 2
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: I'm sure it's been published elsewhere, but as you're the King of Covid stats, do you have the figure for the percentage of the 52,052 active cases who are in ICU or 'proper' hospital, as opposed to those in field hospital, who are presumably asymptomatic? Being assigned to a field hospital bed doesn't mean the person is asymptomatic. It used to mean they were asymptomatic or had only minor symptoms. But lately, they've been adding serious care/ICU beds into the field hospital system, because they don't have enough elsewhere. So you can't draw those same kinds of conclusions any more, at this point. Here's the recap from today's report, as already posted and weblinked in a prior post above: I believe the translation says: --24,454 cases in traditional hospitals --27,598 cases in field hospitals (not sure if that includes "hospitels" or not, though I believe it does) --1,971 of those cases in critical condition, with 566 of those on ventilators PS - there's some indication that the way they come up with those critical case numbers isn't entirely based on the actual symptoms of the patients, but moreso on the type/category of hospital bed they're assigned to. So there's at least some indication these daily numbers are constrained by the supply of actual critical care beds. Edited July 1, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 4 4
Laughing Gravy Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Exploring Thailand said: Right now, it's a dangerous world. At this moment in time, I can't think of that many places I'd rather be than Phuket. Once again good luck. I am in Xieman, lovely place. Phuket has never been my 'cup of tea' but each to their own. Thailand is the place i called home but currently it is in a mess. I would rather be in many other places taking my chances than what is happening in Thailand. Yes it is a dangerous world. But reducing the potential risk is just common sense. At least where I am most people have been vaccinated, they don't have a COVID pandemic like Thailand and a much more competent government with regards to the pandemic. 1
riparian Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, wensiensheng said: You need to ask? actually even the authorities confirmed two delta cases in Phuket from the Madras school cluster which became apparent a few days ago. What? The Indian (sorry Delta) variant found at the Madras School? Surely not! 1
hotchilli Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 7 hours ago, webfact said: The news comes as Thailand said it would import nearly four million doses of Moderna's mRNA coronavirus vaccine towards the end of this year and a further one million in early 2022, for use by private hospitals June and the infection rates have showed an upward trend, the Sinovac vaccine shows little efficacy against the new variants, especially with only one jab. End of the year before any good stuff gets here.. 1
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) Thai Enquirer "So the Phuket sandbox opens TODAY. Here is information you need to know about the sandbox courtesy of us!" https://www.facebook.com/ThaiEnquirer/posts/348574193296787 Edited July 1, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1
Popular Post Exploring Thailand Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 1, 2021 Just now, Laughing Gravy said: At least where I am most people have been vaccinated, they don't have a COVID pandemic like Thailand and a much more competent government with regards to the pandemic. Sure, it depends on whereabouts in Thailand you want to go. I'm in BKK and I'm heading to Phuket. I'm just deciding whether to wait another 12 days until my vaccine has fully kicked in, or get a PCR test and go now. 3
hotchilli Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 7 hours ago, DrJack54 said: Hope that we can get delta numbers over next few weeks. That would be the Kero thrown onto the fire Just wait a couple of weeks, around Mid July when infections of the Delta type start showing around the country due to the mass migration from Bangkok internment camps.
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: Yes I assume so, the situation is precarious at best. As you mentioned earlier even with adding extra critical care beds, the patients requiring them daily will outnumber those available and newly added. Thats not to mention the specially trained nurses that need to be in attendance for patients with this level of need and the ICU doctors. Where exactly are they plucking them from? I read a few days ago perhaps they will be using some military nurses and doctors but I've no heard anything since. I have a feeling that a number of people are not getting the level of care that they should. I find it hard to imagine that a migrant worker who requires ICU care, is actually getting it. so as beds fill up, the least “important” are first excluded and little is heard of it. Only when middle class Thai’s find that there are no beds for them, will the real situation be exposed in my opinion. 4 1
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 1, 2021 "An Etihad flight from Abu Dhabi was the first to land at Phuket Airport at 11.10am, under the “sandbox” reopening project, which begins today (July 1). It landed later than its scheduled arrival of 10.20am, with 25 foreign arrivals on board." https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158116227837050 So the passenger occupancy rate on that flight, without specifying the type of aircraft, would have been maybe 5-10%??? 1 1 1
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 1, 2021 Just now, TallGuyJohninBKK said: "An Etihad flight from Abu Dhabi was the first to land at Phuket Airport at 11.10am, under the “sandbox” reopening project, which begins today (July 1). It landed later than its scheduled arrival of 10.20am, with 25 foreign arrivals on board." https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158116227837050 So the passenger occupancy rate on that flight, without specifying the type of aircraft, would have been maybe 5-10%??? And I would put money on these “tourists” being the UAE tour and travel agents that TAT invited on a freebie trip. 4
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 1, 2021 31 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Thailand continues to vaccinate at a rate of less than half of what they need to be doing to meet their goal of fully vaccinating 70% of the population by year's end. They gave almost 255,000 doses in the most recent day. They needed to have given more than 516,000 to be on track to meeting their own self-declared year-end goal. They've had only one day since the start of the vaccination campaign, the second day, where they gave enough doses to be on track to meet their own target. https://www.facebook.com/KhaosodEnglish/posts/4463358230349741 According to that chart an average of approx 224k vaccinations have been done each day since 7th June. At that rate, it will take 402 days until the target of 100 million doses have been delivered. and yet, instead of focusing on this very serious issue, the government chooses to spend its time talking about opening the whole country to tourists in 120 days. quite honestly, words fail me. 4
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 COVID deaths details for the day: https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/355548106063520/?type=3
Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 1, 2021 39 minutes ago, Exploring Thailand said: Right now, it's a dangerous world. At this moment in time, I can't think of that many places I'd rather be than Phuket. Only if you don't test positive for COVID, or it is off to a field hospital for you with a squat toilet and a winnie the pooh bedding set for company, at your own expense, of course. At least it will be a holiday you'll never, ever forget. 1 5
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: "An Etihad flight from Abu Dhabi was the first to land at Phuket Airport at 11.10am, under the “sandbox” reopening project, which begins today (July 1). It landed later than its scheduled arrival of 10.20am, with 25 foreign arrivals on board." https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158116227837050 So the passenger occupancy rate on that flight, without specifying the type of aircraft, would have been maybe 5-10%??? "The first batch of tourists arrive at Phuket International Airport today, the first day of the Phuket Sandbox. Four flights are coming in today: one each from the UAE, Qatar, Israel, and Singapore. Incoming planes were doused with water." https://www.facebook.com/KhaosodEnglish/posts/4463471180338446 Not sure if the water dousing of the planes is to celebrate their arrival, or an effort to wash off any germs that might have traveled along for the ride??? The Khaosod report doesn't say! 1 1
Phuketshrew Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 Just got back from Mission hospital in Phuket (had to take my son for an XRay. All very quiet. I enquired about registering for the Moderna vaccine but they know nothing about it. Big sign board outside - PCR tests 3200 baht, Antigen 800 baht.
ThailandRyan Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 35 minutes ago, Exploring Thailand said: Sure, it depends on whereabouts in Thailand you want to go. I'm in BKK and I'm heading to Phuket. I'm just deciding whether to wait another 12 days until my vaccine has fully kicked in, or get a PCR test and go now. Vaccinated once with AZ or twice with the Sinovac Gel.....
Exploring Thailand Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Only if you don't test positive for COVID, or it is off to a field hospital for you with a squat toilet and a winnie the pooh bedding set for company, at your own expense, of course. At least it will be a holiday you'll never, ever forget. Being fully vaccinated, having had a negative test less than 72 hours before traveling and being on an island where most of the population is vaccinated, you'd have to be pretty unlucky to test positive. If that did somehow happen, your mandatory insurance would cover the treatment. It's a risk I'd be prepared to take, but to each his own. 2
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) "Songkhla's provincial communicable disease committee has announced a night-time curfew, effective from Wednesday night until July 29, after a surge of COVID-19 cases across the province. Provincial governor Jaruwat Kliangklao, as chairman of the committee, said the curfew is to confine residents to their homes between 10pm and 4am. Restaurants, markets and department stores are allowed to stay open until 9pm. He said the spike in the number of COVID-19 cases is being attributed to face-to-face interactions and contact among at-risk groups, leading to the spread of the virus. https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158116017982050 Today's province COVID cases report from Songkhla: Edited July 1, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 1
ThailandRyan Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Only if you don't test positive for COVID, or it is off to a field hospital for you with a squat toilet and a winnie the pooh bedding set for company, at your own expense, of course. At least it will be a holiday you'll never, ever forget. Hey, I happen to have a Winnie the pooh bedding set, don't bag on the Pooh, ok....or else I am gonna send Christopher Robin after you.....Tigger will be bouncing all over you too and slapping you with Eeyore's Tail....... 1
Popular Post phills2k1 Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Petey11 said: The UK's eat out to help strangely coincided with cases going up, even a local restaurant manager is sure that's what contributed to it. He said his restaurant was packed every day the promotion was available. Not sure if any official figures were published over it though. It stands to reason a lot of people sitting down, unmasked in a closed space is going to present an opportunity for virus transmission. Of course it did, for the reasons you stated at the end of your post. It’s pure logic Which brings me back to my original point to Brewster: how can anyone possibly refute that dining at a restaurant helps spread this? In addition to it just being rational thinking, there’s been studies done that show just how dangerous it is And yet the “keep everything open” crowd STILL somehow exists 5
Macrohistory Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Today's government report also included an updated version of the vaccinations by province report, an earlier version of which I'd posted on several times here in recent days. Here's the newest version of that report updated through June 30. I've added the province name translations to the best of my ability... hope I got them correct. The chart shows number of first dose and second dose shots given, and the percentage of the population covered by each by area: Apart from Phutet and Samui, things remain pretty dire in terms of the small share of the population that's been fully vaccinated. https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/355549022730095 PS - the red circle highlights on the national percentages for 1st and 2nd doses given were done on the original document, and are not my additions/edits. PPS - the updated chart's entry for Phuket clearly shows that the government has decided to reopen the province based on about 70% of its population having received only the first dose of the two-dose regimen, which especially for the Sinovac and AZ vaccines provides only marginal protection. The two-dose rate for Phuket thus far is only about 56%. Thanks so much for this data-rich post, as well as your other data-rich posts. I can't help but feel a tiny bit of optimism when I see from your graph that already nearly a third of the people in Bangkok proper have now received a first vaccine shot. Granted, many (most?) will have received Sinovac, which is reported to be nearly useless until the second jab is received -- and even then it's weak against certain variants. Still, this looks to be a slight sign that some progress is being made. IF ONLY they would continue the vaccination program by coupling it with a serious lockdown and restrictions on inter-provincial travel... Edited July 1, 2021 by Macrohistory 1
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