Thai Authorities Insist Green Chiretta Can Help COVID-19 Patients with Mild Symptoms

[snoop1130]

 

BANGKOK (NNT) - Thailand’s Department of Thai Traditional and Alternative Medicine has defended its study on the use of Andrographis paniculata, or green chiretta, in the treatment of COVID-19 patients with mild symptoms.

 

Department Director-General Dr Amporn Benjaponpitak said the error contained in the study, titled "Efficacy and safety of ’Andrographis paniculata’ extract in patients with mild COVID-19: A randomized controlled trial", which was published in the online pre-print journal medRxiv, does not affect the study’s conclusion.

 

She said the department is confident of the accuracy of the study, indicating that green chiretta can prevent lung infections caused by COVID-19 from worsening, and a statistical miscalculation, which prompted the authors to halt its publication, has nothing to do with the government’s policy to use green chiretta to treat those with mild symptoms.

 

According to Dr Amporn, the error relates to the study’s P-value, which measures the likelihood of the study’s hypothesis being valid. The authors miscalculated the study’s P-value to be 0.03, while the figure should have been 0.112. As such, the research team decided to withdraw the study and resubmit it for publication once the errors are corrected.

 

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[dinsdale]

6 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

According to Dr Amporn, the error relates to the study’s P-value, which measures the likelihood of the study’s hypothesis being valid. The authors miscalculated the study’s P-value to be 0.03, while the figure should have been 0.112. As such, the research team decided to withdraw the study and resubmit it for publication once the errors are corrected.

Just another misunderstaning. Has this been peer reviewed by international scientists? Are the authors correct? "[.....the research team decided to withdraw the study and resubmit it for publication once the errors are corrected." .... let me add corrected in line with the govt agenda. I'm suprised they weren't arrested for fake news. More totalitarianism. 

[JackGats]

Anythings helps when symptoms are mild or non existent and the condition goes away with time. Not surprisingly there are thousands of old wives' remedies for the common cold.

[ArcticFox]

49 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

The authors miscalculated the study’s P-value to be 0.03, while the figure should have been 0.112.

So they are pimping their product even though they pulled their study that showed their results to be statistically not significant.
 

 

51 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

She said the department is confident of the accuracy of the study, indicating that green chiretta can prevent lung infections caused by COVID-19 from worsening, green chiretta can prevent lung infections caused by COVID-19 from worsening.

So what she is saying is that the researchers are going to stand behind a study that was pulled from a medical journal because the results weren't statistically significant and therefore didn't statistically prove that green chiretta can prevent lung infections caused by COVID-19 from worsening.
Believe the science!  Well, until your study fails, then just claim that all is well and ignore the results.  "Nothing to see here.  All is well.  Just keep using the product as at 450 THB per kilo and who-nows-how-much for pills in high demand and short supply - somebody is gonna make big money, and it's all about the Benjamins these days baby.

[BookShe]

More than a hundred million people recovered from Covid. My son was one of them. An intensive study found that all these people consumed water and food. Conclusion..... Water and food cure covid. What a bunch of idiots.

[dinsdale]

40 minutes ago, JackGats said:

Anythings helps when symptoms are mild or non existent and the condition goes away with time. Not surprisingly there are thousands of old wives' remedies for the common cold.

Thing is when you have no symptoms you need no help. Some of the old wives' tales you'd be suprised but this is covid. Mild to very mild symptoms you don't need much of anything but if it advances this stuff will do nothing and it will not stop it from advancing. I will retract this last comment when I see serious international peer reviewed evidence.

[ArcticFox]

1 hour ago, snoop1130 said:

As such, the research team decided to withdraw the study and resubmit it for publication once the errors are corrected.

The initial error was stating that the study was statistically significant with a P value of .03.  The error was running statistical analysis and coming up with a value of .03 based on their data instead of the correct (not significant) value of .112.  My guess is that they'll go back, state that statistical significance is 0.10.  The study didn't make that cutoff either.  So my question is - how is the research team going to "correct" the "errors" without massaging the numbers? 

This pretty much says it all:

Edited August 10, 2021 by ArcticFox

[Caldera]

That "explanation" doesn't exactly instill confidence. And as others have said, in mild cases, there's no need for a "cure" anyway.

[yang123]

Are medRxiv preprints certified by peer review?

Manuscripts submitted to medRxiv are not certified by peer review, edited, or typeset before being posted online.

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/about/FAQ

[Gold Star]

78% of all reported statistics are made up, including this comment.

[MasterBaker]

so would broccoli

[smedly]

stating who financially gains from this would be more significant than the study

[sead]

The masters of hypothesis. 

[SunsetT]

On 8/10/2021 at 10:48 AM, snoop1130 said:

green chiretta can prevent lung infections caused by COVID-19 from worsening

Lung infection is not a 'mild symptom' and once Covid19 has reached this stage it needs serious treatment and should be treated with tried and tested medicines which, at this advanced stage of the Pandemic, are available.