webfact Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Picture: Daily News Relatives have called for police to investigate after lurid claims emerged into the death of a 21 year old woman called Wanida or Jip in Hat Yai, Songkhla in the south of Thailand. Her boyfriend Pannathat, 25, or Pan claimed that she died after an adapted BB gun went off by accident killing her in his bedroom at a house in Thung Tam Sao sub-district in the early hours ofb Saturday morning. Police seemed happy with that explanation and bailed him. Now following the cremation of the young lady relatives have suspicions after a mystery person called Boy told them that earlier that day Pan had taken Jip to a house where 14 friends had had sex with her. She died after having her hands and feet tied up, was punched and sexually assaulted. Jip has already been cremated. Daily News went to talk to the victim's elder sister "Joy" who wants the police to establish if it was really an accident, what was the role of the person called Boy who made contact via Facebook but who said he wasn't directly involved in the assault, and how Pan came to be quickly bailed in the case. Jip's mother Jit, 59, said the couple had been together for two years and he had got engaged to her daughter. She reported some arguments and a temporary break-up before her daughter had returned to him a few days before the incident. Ae, a cousin reported that Boy had contacted her on Facebook with claims about what went on at a house saying that Jip may have died as a result and the shooting story was just a cover up to deceive police. -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2021-08-12 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gottfrid Posted August 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, webfact said: Pan had taken Jip to a house where 14 friends had had sex with her. Pan must have loved Jip very much. Wonder if he looked and filmed at the same time? Nobody really knows what goes on in such minds. True or not, there are just too many psychos here. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post audaciousnomad Posted August 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Gottfrid said: Pan must have loved Jip very much. Wonder if he looked and filmed at the same time? Nobody really knows what goes on in such minds. True or not, there are just too many psychos here. Everywhere in the world. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Gottfrid said: Pan must have loved Jip very much. Wonder if he looked and filmed at the same time? Nobody really knows what goes on in such minds. True or not, there are just too many psychos here. Ever thought that considering her hands and legs were tied up , that it probably wasn't consensual ? Hows this for a possibility : She finished with him and maybe found someone new and he made efforts to get back with her again (with the sole intention of getting revenge ). She agreed to meet up with him and went to someones room where 14 guys were waiting and he had a gun to finalise his revenge ? 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2long Posted August 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2021 37 minutes ago, webfact said: Police seemed happy with that explanation and bailed him. Happy, and bailed a suspect in manslaughter! ???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, audaciousnomad said: Everywhere in the world. According to a friend that works very close to the problem, the unofficial percentage of Thai women that have been raped while in a relationship is 44%. I know there are worse places, but not everywhere in the world. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Ever thought that considering her hands and legs were tied up , that it probably wasn't consensual ? Hows this for a possibility : She finished with him and maybe found someone new and he made efforts to get back with her again (with the sole intention of getting revenge ). She agreed to meet up with him and went to someones room where 14 guys were waiting and he had a gun to finalise his revenge ? Eeeh!??? Are you sure that you understood my comment? If so, why do you think an explanation was needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Gottfrid said: Eeeh!??? Are you sure that you understood my comment? If so, why do you think an explanation was needed? I got their names mixed up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post worgeordie Posted August 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2021 The autopsy ,would have shown up many things that were alleged to have happened .......if it was done correctly. Where was she supposedly shot with the airgun ? regards Worgeordie 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Gottfrid said: According to a friend that works very close to the problem, the unofficial percentage of Thai women that have been raped while in a relationship is 44%. I know there are worse places, but not everywhere in the world. You do understand women lie? I'm betting the (alleged/rumoured/unofficial) numbers are similar in your home country because all men are evil (especially after the relationship has ended). Back to the OP, no evidence (as she was cremated), so no case to answer whether it happened or not. If true, you'd have thought the hospital that dealt with the dead body would have notices a few marks. Edited August 12, 2021 by BritManToo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 49 minutes ago, BritManToo said: You do understand women lie? Yes, I do understand they lie when it can benefit them. However, this unofficial number is not coming from reported police cases. No gain to lie in this case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gottfrid said: Yes, I do understand they lie when it can benefit them. However, this unofficial number is not coming from reported police cases. No gain to lie in this case. The gain is in making themselves feel better about their previous actions. And making themselves look better to the person with whom they are speaking. Edited August 12, 2021 by BritManToo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, BritManToo said: The gain is in making themselves feel better about their previous actions. And making themselves look better to the person with whom they are speaking. You must really like females 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted August 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2021 46 minutes ago, Gottfrid said: Yes, I do understand they lie when it can benefit them. However, this unofficial number is not coming from reported police cases. No gain to lie in this case. This is a thread potentially about a Woman who may have been raped and murdered , its rather inappropriate to discuss lying Females . This is a thread about a Man who may have murdered a female and lied about it , rather than a Woman lying 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: This is a thread potentially about a Woman who may have been raped and murdered , its rather inappropriate to discuss lying Females . This is a thread about a Man who may have murdered a female and lied about it , rather than a Woman lying You do understand that a another poster started the lying discussion, right? Besides that, I can not care less about what you see as inappropriate. If you do not like to read, then jump over and move on. I do not think my discussion with another poster breaks the rules of this forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrogaz Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Oops, burnt the evidence! What could possibly go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted August 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gottfrid said: You must really like females Lived with them all my life, their lies and false accusations are frequent. But there are plenty of men posting on this forum that appear to despise and believe the worst in other men. Plenty of women are mistreated by men, but just as often men are mistreated by women. I try never to believe accusations unless accompanied by evidence. Edited August 12, 2021 by BritManToo 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Gottfrid said: You do understand that a another poster started the lying discussion, right? Besides that, I can not care less about what you see as inappropriate. If you do not like to read, then jump over and move on. I do not think my discussion with another poster breaks the rules of this forum. Do try and show just a little bit of respect . In a story about a man possibly killing a woman and lying about it , its rather untoward to go on about woman being liars . A Female may have been raped and killed ...................and she wasn't lying about that 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted August 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Gottfrid said: You do understand that a another poster started the lying discussion, right? Yes , it seems like there are some posters who keep going on about their ex-wifes every opportunity they get 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GroveHillWanderer Posted August 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2021 3 hours ago, worgeordie said: The autopsy ,would have shown up many things that were alleged to have happened .......if it was done correctly. Where was she supposedly shot with the airgun ? regards Worgeordie There's no indication in the OP that any autopsy was carried out. It says the police simply accepted the boyfriend's explanation and that she was subsequently cremated. It doesn't sound like any real investigation was done. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Absolute police muppets, allowing a body to be released and cremated after an unexpected or suspicious death and therefore allowing vital evidence to be destroyed. Another case of the police wrapping up the crime before they even investigate it. I'm sure that any ex police on this forum would be appalled at the dismal state of detective work here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 4 hours ago, webfact said: Now following the cremation of the young lady relatives have suspicions after a mystery person called Boy told them that earlier that day Pan had taken Jip to a house where 14 friends had had sex with her. Jeez... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarteso Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 5 hours ago, webfact said: where 14 friends had had sex with her. Not sure if they was real friends RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Do try and show just a little bit of respect . In a story about a man possibly killing a woman and lying about it , its rather untoward to go on about woman being liars . A Female may have been raped and killed ...................and she wasn't lying about that Listen to yourself here. A female may have been rape and killed. So that is not sure then? Anyway not in the eyes of the law, that has already been cremating the body. So, why are you reacting like you do, just because one person had said something afterwards? Who says, more then he himself, that is the true story? After that, you also state that the woman who was raped and killed, was not lying about that????? Really, since when are people making a speech after they have been killed? I think you better show some respect to the rest of this forum, by stating things that are possible instead. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Yes , it seems like there are some posters who keep going on about their ex-wifes every opportunity they get Sounds like you know who people that you chat with in a forum refer to without they stating it. Are you sure there is not any underlying personal experience that is talking? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Gottfrid said: You do understand that a another poster started the lying discussion, right? Besides that, I can not care less about what you see as inappropriate. If you do not like to read, then jump over and move on. I do not think my discussion with another poster breaks the rules of this forum. Calm down.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonRob2 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 9 hours ago, 2long said: Happy, and bailed a suspect in manslaughter! ???? Loads of people consent to being tied up for all sorts of reasons, a friend informs me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbenson Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 I wonder who the boy friend knows or is related to. It sounds like a whitewash by the police. What would be their motivation for doing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Gottfrid said: Listen to yourself here. A female may have been rape and killed. So that is not sure then? Anyway not in the eyes of the law, that has already been cremating the body. So, why are you reacting like you do, just because one person had said something afterwards? Who says, more then he himself, that is the true story? After that, you also state that the woman who was raped and killed, was not lying about that????? Really, since when are people making a speech after they have been killed? I think you better show some respect to the rest of this forum, by stating things that are possible instead. This thread is about a Woman getting killed by a gun shot from her boyfriend . Accident he says . New allegations have come to light suggesting that he murdered her . I do think that those allegations should be investigated , rather than just coming to the conclusion that Men always tell the truth and Females always lie and thus no investigation necessary . New allegations may or not be true , but , I suspect that they are . Like , accidently shooting your GF in the head who recently finished with you . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudge Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 3 hours ago, mbenson said: I wonder who the boy friend knows or is related to. It sounds like a whitewash by the police. What would be their motivation for doing that? Sounds like a big brown envelope fell into there hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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