houstoniron Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 I have just gone through the procedure for getting a COE. Upon my return to Thailand, I will get a COVID test when I arrive at the quarantine hotel, one mid stay and one at the end of 14 days. What happens if any of the three tests is positive? I looked on the internet and could not find anything useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 At first they were sending those folks to hospital right off...but due to bed shortages, you'll likely either go to quarantine center or maybe if asymptomatic maybe shelter in place for additional 14 days ? I don't think they have stated public policy on that...but I could easily see the hotel/authorities wanting you out of that hotel as quickly as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 And this is why they are forcing you to take $100,000 Covid insurance that you can demand to be put in a proper private hospital and not at home... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 I believe that if you test positive while in ASQ you will always be transferred to the (private) hospital that is the partner of the ASQ hotel. It is a very different matter if you contract Covid after leaving ASQ. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 A troll post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) There was report of exactly this situation. A chap did ASQ at Bangkok. He had returned to Thailand and was not vaccinated. Tested positive few days into stay. He was removed and taken to hospitel. (Hotel). Stated it was horrible. 3 meals/day often cold in plastic box. His health cover paid all. I would not return to Thailand without being vaccinated. True not bullet proof but better than nothing. Edited August 21, 2021 by DrJack54 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Sounds like a future Thai "misunderstanding"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 20 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: True not bullet proof but better than nothing. hence the thai amulet theory.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted August 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Sticky Rice Balls said: hence the thai amulet theory.. Might sound harsh but I would not return to Thailand without being fully vaccinated. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 I would travel to the US for vaccine, but don't want to run the gauntlet getting back into Thailand. Pop positive for COVID, seems like you're just along for the ride at that point. No thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronster Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 You get taken to the hospital associated with your ASQ and stay there until 2 negative tests . Your insurance pays or you do for the hospital stay . Happened to two people when I was in ASQ . One was a guy who had it in uk and got better , then got tested for COE in uk and all clear . He got tested in ASQ and failed . It is possible he caught it on the plane but he reckons the test they done in Thailand was set to be far more sensitive and it detected trace that was still in his body from when he had it before. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecha Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 you go to a jail then they test u till u negative then after the 14 days and negative test u can go\ would not come here unvaxinated bad choice and big risk can get vaxinated in europe pretty easy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted August 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) IF someone tests positive while in ASQ, they are taken to the Partner hospital for ‘treatment / isolation’. Theoretically their insurance ‘covers’ the hospital treatment / isolation period. But, some insurance may not cover non-symptomatic hospitalisation, so that could get messy. Thus, IF someone tests positive, I suggest they ‘fake’ symptoms so that something is placed on the admission sheet and the hospital is forced to cover treatment !! IF someone tests positive as a Sandbox arrival, I think they are taken to a hospital (not sure if there are any partner hospitals with the Sandbox scheme), they are 'treated / isolated’ at the hospital. Again, theoretically their insurance ‘covers’ the hospital treatment / isolation period. They are also refunded for their unused portion of their hotel stay. Again, insurance cover is a grey are and insurance may not cover non-symptomatic hospitalisation, so again, that could get messy. As there is a small risk of ‘false positive’, anyone who tests ‘Positive' for Covid-19 should demand a second conformation test. Edited August 21, 2021 by richard_smith237 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CartagenaWarlock Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 23 hours ago, ezzra said: And this is why they are forcing you to take $100,000 Covid insurance that you can demand to be put in a proper private hospital and not at home... You demand with the insurance company you paid. Government is not obligated to provide a private hospital. If available, they will provide one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 22 hours ago, DrJack54 said: Might sound harsh but I would not return to Thailand without being fully vaccinated. Pfizer 2x.......ready-willing-and able minus all the nonsensical "rules" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/21/2021 at 7:45 AM, ezzra said: And this is why they are forcing you to take $100,000 Covid insurance that you can demand to be put in a proper private hospital and not at home... Can you?? The last report I saw about this from a very accurate Asean Now source is that with some insurance companies, the insurance kicks in right from the start, and with others it does not kick in during the first 14 days, which means that in the latter case, if you are tested positive on arrival it is "hard luck pal", then hunted from the hotel. Will the hotel then refund what you have paid for your ASQ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 17 hours ago, mikecha said: you go to a jail then they test u till u negative then after the 14 days and negative test u can go\ would not come here unvaxinated bad choice and big risk can get vaxinated in europe pretty easy What if you have been vaccinated in Thailand with the mixed vaccine which could mean one of them being a Chinese one? Then go to the UK. Should you then get vaccinated twice again with the proper vaccine? Would you be taking a chance with your health in any way if you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, CartagenaWarlock said: You demand with the insurance company you paid. Government is not obligated to provide a private hospital. If available, they will provide one. So you are obligated to pay this very expensive $100.000 insurance, but the government or insurance company is not obligated to put you in a private hospital. I am sure there are always beds available in the likes of Bumingrad Hospital, please excuse the spelling. Edited August 22, 2021 by possum1931 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 37 minutes ago, possum1931 said: What if you have been vaccinated in Thailand with the mixed vaccine which could mean one of them being a Chinese one? Then go to the UK. Should you then get vaccinated twice again with the proper vaccine? Would you be taking a chance with your health in any way if you do? Getting additional shots of any vaccine, unless one of the tested boosters, most certainly carries risk, and I would not advise it except with professional advice and monitoring. Some boosters have been studied, for instance mRNA boosters several months after a regular two-dose regime with some of the non mRNA vaccines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 28 minutes ago, possum1931 said: So you are obligated to pay this very expensive $100.000 insurance, but the government is not obligated to put you in a private hospital. I am sure there are always beds available in the likes of Bumingrad Hospital, please excuse the spelling. The private hospitals will have designated Covid-19 wards, and will not put you among non Covid-19 patients. The Covid-19 areas of private hospitals in Bangkok are, indeed, full. Under exceptional circumstances, a hospital might accommodate you in a cordoned off part of the emergency department for a number of hours (generally, when they are legally obligated to accept a patient) but they will not accept any patient for whom they do not have an available bed under most circumstances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knocker33 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Off to covid jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/21/2021 at 9:00 AM, DrJack54 said: There was report of exactly this situation. A chap did ASQ at Bangkok. He had returned to Thailand and was not vaccinated. Tested positive few days into stay. He was removed and taken to hospitel. (Hotel). Stated it was horrible. 3 meals/day often cold in plastic box. His health cover paid all. I would not return to Thailand without being vaccinated. True not bullet proof but better than nothing. Vaccinated or not, can still test positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CartagenaWarlock Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 8 hours ago, possum1931 said: So you are obligated to pay this very expensive $100.000 insurance, but the government or insurance company is not obligated to put you in a private hospital. I am sure there are always beds available in the likes of Bumingrad Hospital, please excuse the spelling. As I said, if it's available, they will provide one. But nobody is obligated. It's you who made it obligated by coming to Thailand. Nobody invited you even if you have a job in Thailand. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Ralf001 said: Vaccinated or not, can still test positive. My reason for wanting to be vaccinated prior to coming to Thailand was not about avoiding positive test. Rather it's that obtaining vaccination in Thailand is not easy. I have received my first AZ at Bang Sue and that was a Zoo. Next jab is 12 weeks after the first. Anyone coming to Thailand currently without being vaccinated is nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 30 minutes ago, CartagenaWarlock said: As I said, if it's available, they will provide one. But nobody is obligated. It's you who made it obligated by coming to Thailand. Nobody invited you even if you have a job in Thailand. I think while you are in ASQ (but not when you are in a SHA+ hotel in a sandbox) your ASQ package has an implied guarantee that the partner hospital of the hotel will provide Covid treatment should you test positive. The government appears to mandate that all ASQ hotels have a partner hospital that is named when you buy an ASQ package.. Surely, there is a reason for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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