4 hours ago, smedly said:

classic infantile blame shifting going on 

 

Government - it is not our fault so stop blaming us 

 

shameful

Did you click and read the article, or just the title here?

 

Last paragraph:

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The professor added that confusing government policy has also compounded the situation as the CCSA and the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration did not stick with public health guidelines forwarded by their team of advisors.

Seems that he divided the blame evenly to me... =\

 

Edited September 8, 20214 yr by moon47

those pesky digital nomads again

4 hours ago, bobandyson said:

Man is his own worst enemy.

☹️

100% correct humans are a worst virus than covid 

 

Sure. People are "responsible" to try to... feed their families...

 

Indeed, that's so bad !

 

The gvt lives on another planet, it's amazing.

 

They are the ones who have destroyd everything (for a disease that has nothing extraordinary)... and now they accuse the "people"... like it's our fault.

If one reads the article it is actually the government being blamed.

Lowering restrictions will lead to a spike in infections , yes , but in heavily vaccinated countries the consequencies are manageable.

In Thailand more infections mean deaths and unbearable further pressure on health resources and the economy.

There is no comparison between nations with 70-80% of their citizens vaccinated and one with barely 10%.

4 hours ago, smedly said:

classic infantile blame shifting going on 

 

Government - it is not our fault so stop blaming us 

 

shameful

99.9% of the people where I live do the right thing, all wear mask and wash their hands often. Just watch them when they go in and out of the shops including the big shops. The fault is with the Government not getting the vaccines soon enough and making it too hard for people to get their jabs. Also getting Chinese vaccines that no one really wants.

That old chestnut....blame the public.

Three things will save Thai economy & Thai social cohesion: vaccinate the elderly, vaccinate the middle aged and vaccinate the teenagers . And do it quick then tourists will flock back with cash to spend. 

Edited September 8, 20214 yr by peter48

5 hours ago, bobandyson said:

Man is his own worst enemy.

☹️

Robinsons TOPS in Saraburi was chockablock on Saturday 4th September!

crazy crazy people

Well it is expected, when you go into a certain food store, that used to have 2 tills serving people, and weighing the food, on the meat counter, and they only use 1 now, and a lot of people gathering waiting, for the meat to be weighted, all close together, breathing on each other.

5 hours ago, Dmaxdan said:

Once most of the population is vaccinated, then there will be huge daily infection spikes, probably much bigger than those already recorded.

The time has come to learn to live with Covid, not hide away from it.

Once the vaccinations have taken figures past 80% of the population I would agree.

5 hours ago, Thujone said:

I'll drink to that!

Or maybe I wont...

I already do.

5 hours ago, khunpa said:

Well I guess people including myself are just fed up with restrictions.

 

The only ones to blame is the government itself, who completely messed up getting enough vaccines.

 

Once people are double vaccinated, for sure there will be a huge infection spike. And so what. We can’t live like this forever.
 

I don’t know about you, but I am going to start living life once I am double vaccinated. Getting first vaccine tomorrow ???? Hopefully, unless they run out and turn me away.

 

 

 

You do realize, I hope, that once you're fully vaccinated....

 

A. that does NOT mean you can't still contract the virus, and if you do, and then turn around and infect others around you.

 

B. that being fully vaccinated also isn't an absolute guarantee against you becoming ill from the virus. The odds are much lower once you're fully vaccinated, but there still are so-called breakthrough infections.

 

I fail to see what's so difficult and burdensome about recognizing the world is in the midst of a global pandemic, and the best way to protect yourself and those around you is to behave with some level of self-discipline and sense of social responsibility.

 

As expected..but still brage about the successfull phuket sandbox..now hua-hin want open anyway..

 

4 hours ago, robblok said:

Not seeing that in the Netherlands went quite well. Most infections are those that are not vaccinated. The so called anti vaxers. 

correct 

Who would have ever believed that the people here would not listen to the government and be responsible without being under authoritarian rule.  You just have to go back to the very beginning of the pandemic here in Thailand and those returning "Little Ghosts" who came back from S. Korea and instead of isolating/quarantining at their homes instead went out shopping and partying.  Just recently look at all of those caught partying in a rooftop bar in Chiang Mai, or those caught in groups in Samui, etc....  Folks here and just like elsewhere are tired of being stepped on and not cared for by this Government.   As much as I believe in certain closures and social distancing as well as vaccinations, this Government has created a fricking nightmare for the country and its people.  Greed is the name of the game here with this corrupt Government, and then folks wonder why information gets leaked and then there still is not a change at the top.  Sometimes I feel as if I am living in Mexico instead of Thailand.  The only difference being the Cartels will kill you their versus the RTP will kill you here.  Responsibility starts at home, and unfortunately not many have ever been taught to be responsible and care for others instead of just themselves.

Edited September 8, 20214 yr by ThailandRyan

1 hour ago, PEE TEE said:

100% correct humans are a worst virus than covid 

 

God please protect us from one kind of people , the perfect one's!

=Absolute narcissism.

Edited September 8, 20214 yr by 2 is 1

Well, so far the infection rates are going down, so let's wait and see if there's a spike next week, and if so, how much of one.  I can't see the restrictions being re-imposed - the people won't take it!

4 hours ago, thaitom said:

Well, it seems to have worked out for China with the worlds largest population.

We do not know that.

The CCP NEVER publishes true facts. They just tell you what they want you to know.

I believe that this government has been lying about the numbers of infections until the vote of confidence was over. They will now show climbing infections, blame the people and lock down again.

Typical CCP tactics being used by the Thai government.

Sick and tired of the subject.

The government is responsible for:
- education of the public and that, Ladies and Gentlemen, starts in Kindergarten, carries on through school, military service and a general understanding of the legal code of this country
- law enforcement on a common sense basis
- providing the necessary vaccinations to the general public

You can go now and tick the appropriate; if you ask me, this beautiful government, like most of their preceding clubs of trough sows, have had different interests and are a total failure. 

Thailand is a failed state and it needs to go rock-, rock-, rock bottom and rise out of the ashes with a completely different mind set as far as all above points are concerned! 

6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

You do realize, I hope, that once you're fully vaccinated....

 

A. that does NOT mean you can't still contract the virus, and if you do, and then turn around and infect others around you.

 

B. that being fully vaccinated also isn't an absolute guarantee against you becoming ill from the virus. The odds are much lower once you're fully vaccinated, but there still are so-called breakthrough infections.

 

I fail to see what's so difficult and burdensome about recognizing the world is in the midst of a global pandemic, and the best way to protect yourself and those around you is to behave with some level of self-discipline and sense of social responsibility.

 

Have to disagree with you there Tall guy.

 

A. Agreed. Hence the need for everybody to be vaccinated ASAP.

 

B. Yes, but once fully vaccinated the risk of death and hospitalization falls to a level that is acceptable within social norms. Neither are eliminated, nor will they ever likely be, but the same can be said for just about anything else involved with normal living.

 

but the issue is vaccinating everybody who wants a vaccine. Thailand, like a lot of other countries, isn’t there yet, but the time will come sooner or later.

1 hour ago, crazykopite said:

It’s very easy to blame the people but it’s the administration who are at fault for sitting on there @$$’$ by not having nowhere near enough vaccines they were hoping Covid would be blown away in the wind

Vaccination alone will not be the panacea against covid infection. Israel and Singapore have shown that even with high percentage population vaccinated, the people should not abandon the basic requirement for masking, washing hands and social distancing. 

15 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Are 35% fully vaccinated? I think even kadilio isn’t claiming more than 15%, unless I am mistaken.

Nationwide, the government says 35% have received their first shot, but only 14% fully vaccinated with their second shot.  They've still got a LONG way to go in the vaccination campaign.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/thaimoph/posts/398084448468131

 

Edited September 8, 20214 yr by TallGuyJohninBKK

Regarding the OP image. Taken at a bad angle making it look worse than it is. 

 

Just been shopping at Big C. People & staff being responsible. Masks, distancing, hand sanitation etc. except one farang with mask as chin strap and another farang with big nose exposed over top of mask. 

People are not being responsible enough......

 

They never have been! 

 

Every time I go to 7/11, the person behind me is reaching round me to put his goods on the counter, before I've even got my change.

 

Occasionally, somebody has come into the store without a mask, and nothing is said to them.

 

The most annoying thing is, this has never changed in the 16 years I've been here.  But, I didn't expect it would change being that most of the population don't give a toss about law enforcement.

4 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Vaccination alone will not be the panacea against covid infection. Israel and Singapore have shown that even with high percentage population vaccinated, the people should not abandon the basic requirement for masking, washing hands and social distancing. 

 

I think there was a time earlier in the pandemic when many in the public got the impression that 70-80% fully vaccinated would translate into so-called herd immunity and then everyone would be free and clear.

 

Unfortunately, that notion of herd immunity was always more of a fairy tale than reality when it comes to the coronavirus IMHO, and the emergence of variants like Delta and whatever may follow pretty much dashed hopes for a quick and certain end to this.

 

For those reasons, I'm entirely agreeing and endorsing with your comment above. Way way too many people -- including many here -- simply aren't recognizing or don't want to recognize the reality of that.

 

14 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Have to disagree with you there Tall guy.

 

A. Agreed. Hence the need for everybody to be vaccinated ASAP.

 

B. Yes, but once fully vaccinated the risk of death and hospitalization falls to a level that is acceptable within social norms. Neither are eliminated, nor will they ever likely be, but the same can be said for just about anything else involved with normal living.

 

but the issue is vaccinating everybody who wants a vaccine. Thailand, like a lot of other countries, isn’t there yet, but the time will come sooner or later.

Agree! Here in Finland people over 12 years old , 82% has get first jab and over 60% has get both jab's.

Goverment say: next month over 80% has get both shot's so all restrictions will be deleted. Inside country we go back to "normal" living. Doctors say that people should still be careful and use mask's + wash hands. Anyway all the time maybe 50% haven't never use mask's!

Edited September 8, 20214 yr by 2 is 1

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17 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

We do not know that.

The CCP NEVER publishes true facts. They just tell you what they want you to know.

I believe that this government has been lying about the numbers of infections until the vote of confidence was over. They will now show climbing infections, blame the people and lock down again.

Typical CCP tactics being used by the Thai government.

You don’t think the large foreign journalists and international media outlets would have reported the overwhelmed hospitals and mortuaries in China. Last I know, journalists from BBC, LA Times, Deutsche Welle, Al Jazeera, CNN, agency France, Associated Press etc are all over China. They can see climbing infections and reported on it. Don’t you think so?

22 minutes ago, Keesters said:

Regarding the OP image. Taken at a bad angle making it look worse than it is. 

 

Just been shopping at Big C. People & staff being responsible. Masks, distancing, hand sanitation etc. except one farang with mask as chin strap and another farang with big nose exposed over top of mask. 

It's funny how you always see just farangs not wearing masks correctly