Finally! TAT proposes end to quarantine for foreign tourists and simplification of area requirements

[GrandPapillon]

wait a minute! what happens if you test positive while in Thailand yet you are double vaccinated?

 

I bet you must stay at those silly hospitals, even without symptoms!!!

 

it's a freaking trap,

 

not good enough, what would you put yourself in that silly tourist trap because with DELTA, and all the locals with no vaccine, you are going to test positive very quickly ????

[Caldera]

It's still confusing and at this point nothing more than yet another proposal, but I hope they'll finally get their act together. 

[Gottfrid]

Have they asked Prayut?

[madmen]

Coincidentally a day after Vietnam announces its own island sandbox 

[Kadilo]

1 hour ago, jonclark said:

I think this is as close as you will find to a public admission of failure of The Phuket Sandbox model. 

Yeah that’s why they have renamed the Samui one the same. 

[GrandPapillon]

20 minutes ago, Caldera said:

It's still confusing and at this point nothing more than yet another proposal, but I hope they'll finally get their act together. 

they will never get the act together, only forced to follow others eventually once global travelling reboot at the end of 2022

[PETERTHEEATER]

1 hour ago, madmen said:

Fantastic! Finally they understand tourists are not performing circus animals. 

Fantastic? I was hoping for 'real' not fantasy...

[Rimmer]

An inflammatory/derogatory post has been removed, also an off topic post

[Laughing Gravy]

As usual clear as mud. Normally people learn from their mistakes and evolve. It seems that this lot certainly do not.

[madmen]

5 minutes ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

Fantastic? I was hoping for 'real' not fantasy...

The Phuket sandbox was smashed on the threads here as fantasy as well before becoming "real" 

There are going to be big changes if they hope to catch high season however we will have to wait for any final details. This TAT announcement would have half of it lost in translation alone as usual 

[cclub75]

October 1 ? In 2 weeks ?

 

It's a joke, of course.

 

Enough to see for instance, the local authorities of Koh Tao... are imposing new restrictions (from 12 to 19 september : no dine in in restaurants etc.)... despite the fact that the province is "orange" (in Koh Samui the restaurant can open normally).

 

Source : https://www.facebook.com/samuiinfobynicha/photos/a.103090108015968/387158789609097/

 

Why ? How ? Nobody knows, and probably not even the local authorities (i guess they found a few "cases").

 

My point is : local authorities will probably derail all those grand "reopening plans".

 

 

[Kadilo]

Seems to me that piece by piece it’s coming together to the point where tourism will be back to “normal” in the sense of quarantine and free movement for all vaccinated people by year end, pending no massive spike in cases. 
 

They are using October as a restricted test point whilst monitoring infections and carrying on with their vaccination rollout which will meet the target by year end, and will be the cue to remove the rest of the restrictions in readiness for Xmas/ New Year alone which has always been their main tourism target. 
 

Of course everyone’s crystal ball will say different. 
 

 

 

Edited September 14, 2021 by Kadilo

[ezzra]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

The penny finally seems to have dropped at the Tourism Authority of Thailand, notes ASEAN NOW

Yeah I think someone at the TAT rad all my posts regarding the opening of the country and the are finally acting on it, now, i won't be surprise if soon, i'll get an invitation from the for some kind of prestigious award...

[Johnny Mac]

Tbh I don't even understand it. Load of nonsense, as per.

 

But at least slowly but surely this madness seems to be coming to end in due course, although of course some things have changed forever.

Edited September 14, 2021 by Johnny Mac

[davidkas]

So, my house is in rural Thailand not anywhere near a tourist destination. Will I still have to ASQ, isolate at home or free to move. I'm double vaxed and have been away from my family for 7 months so far, I would really like to not have to ASQ again.

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Yeah I think someone at the TAT rad all my posts regarding the opening of the country and the are finally acting on it, now, i won't be surprise if soon, i'll get an invitation from the for some kind of prestigious award...

The golden key and permanent residence coming shortly I am sure. Wishing you the best.

[Kadilo]

6 minutes ago, davidkas said:

So, my house is in rural Thailand not anywhere near a tourist destination. Will I still have to ASQ, isolate at home or free to move. I'm double vaxed and have been away from my family for 7 months so far, I would really like to not have to ASQ again.

I’m sure it will all be revealed shortly. See what comes from this proposed meeting Friday. 
 

In the meantime everyone can resume the usual hysteria and make up their own versions. 

[Peabody]

1 hour ago, sapson said:

Wow thats an extortionate price 8k, most private hospitals do it for 3,5 k and still make a fat profit, they really have been gouging the cherished visitors.

That's for 3 PCR tests

[Danderman123]

8 hours ago, kingkenny said:

Double jabbed people are not immune, not according to any science I have seen anyway. You can catch and transmit covid, the vaccine reduces the chance of death or hospitalizations should you catch it. 

The vaccine reduces the chances of infection.

 

[sapson]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Think that through. So let's just use Bangkok as one example. 

Are some bars going to be open for fully vaccinated tourists and also fully vaccinated expats that live in Thailand. 

So management checks some vaccination certificate at entrance? 

Will curfew apply to all equally? etc

Indeed if you really think it through until the full vaccine program is rolled out for all people visitors really shouldnt be making Thailand a destination of choice to much risk to many changing rules and entertainment venues not opening with normal facilities risk of a fine having beer with your supper utter minefield that needs clearing before any opening.

[GrandPapillon]

7 hours ago, BobinBKK said:

For example the vaccination rate in Europe is 70-80%, Thailand 15%.

 

To play in Thailand as a foreigner, you must be fully vaccinated and have a negative PCR test before your trip.

 

Is this not enough? Would fully vaccinated foreigners further aggravate the infection? Absolutely NOT!

 

The tourists are fully vaccinated to 100%, Thais in the tourist areas to 70% (I have my doubts).

 

Which group is most at risk of spreading the infection? The answer is simple, Thais.

 

The tourists do not contribute to spreading the infection. If you are fully vaccinated you do not pose a problem. If fully vaccinated were a problem, the world would never be able to open up.

 

AND drop the stupid $100,00 USD scam Covid-19 insurance!!! 

actually being vaccinated doesn't mean you don't spread the disease, you keep spreading it, you simply do not have the severe symptoms, so fully vaccinated can still be contaminated, and to make things worse, they will be lockdown if they test positive, even with no symptoms. Why bother at the end?

 

Stay in your home country, safer ????

[GrandPapillon]

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

The vaccine reduces the chances of infection.

 

it does but it varies from person to person, so it's impossible to make some kind of predictions on the infection rates of fully vaccinated,

 

you have to assume that you can be contaminated and you will contaminate others, and that's basically what has been observed

[Danderman123]

1 minute ago, GrandPapillon said:

actually being vaccinated doesn't mean you don't spread the disease, you keep spreading it, you simply do not have the severe symptoms, so fully vaccinated can still be contaminated, and to make things worse, they will be lockdown if they test positive, even with no symptoms. Why bother at the end?

 

Stay in your home country, safer ????

A very small number of vaccinated individuals become infected and infectious.

 

That’s one of the purposes of vaccination.

[Danderman123]

Just now, GrandPapillon said:

it does but it varies from person to person, so it's impossible to make some kind of predictions on the infection rates of fully vaccinated,

 

you have to assume that you can be contaminated and you will contaminate others, and that's basically what has been observed

There is plenty of data on infection numbers. Very few vaccinated individuals become infected and infectious.

[GrandPapillon]

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

A very small number of vaccinated individuals become infected and infectious.

 

That’s one of the purposes of vaccination.

nope, the purpose of the COVID vaccination was to save people from developing serious symptoms

 

it's not stopping the spread, DELTA is raging, but very few hospitalization, so it does work

 

I am fully vaccinated and I got DELTA last month, and infected a few people in the process. It took me 3 weeks to fight it but the symptoms were very light, yet still annoying. Very tired and the usual headache for 3 weeks, running nose etc...

 

when I was infected with Alpha, it was only 1 week but took 1 month for a full recovery, but symptoms were far more serious, in bed for 10 days.

Edited September 14, 2021 by GrandPapillon

[GrandPapillon]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

There is plenty of data on infection numbers. Very few vaccinated individuals become infected and infectious.

on what planet? that's not what medical records are showing here in Europe,

Edited September 14, 2021 by GrandPapillon

[BestB]

drive to vaccinate people can really be seen. Today, Pattaya City Hospital, jammed packed from both sides, all getting vaccinated, unsure what is happening in Banglamung Hospital or Chayarpuk stadium, Central also packed with foreigners getting jabbed. Not much distancing being followed, but all well organised, run and managed.

 

Very feasible to have majority vaccinated with at least 1 shot by the end of the month

[2 is 1]

28 minutes ago, davidkas said:

So, my house is in rural Thailand not anywhere near a tourist destination. Will I still have to ASQ, isolate at home or free to move. I'm double vaxed and have been away from my family for 7 months so far, I would really like to not have to ASQ again.

We have to stretch our willy in BKK or some other place 14 days before can go home! Place where have much more covid than in home town/village! Much more chance to get covid when waiting clearance to travel final destination than go there directly!

[JayBird]

No bars, no clubs, no gyms, curfew.

 

Required to stay in a designated hotel for 2 weeks or the duration of your stay if less.

 

Even if your condo and wife are next door.

[ThailandRyan]

14 minutes ago, JayBird said:

No bars, no clubs, no gyms, curfew.

 

Required to stay in a designated hotel for 2 weeks or the duration of your stay if less.

 

Even if your condo and wife are next door.

I know, and so that is the reason why I did not travel back to the states.

Edited September 14, 2021 by ThailandRyan