Breakthrough COVID-19 Infection in Thailand: What to Know

[snoop1130]

PHOTO : news.yale.edu

 

Nearly 22 years into the 21st century, coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) remains the most infectious and deadly virus of this century. Not only among unvaccinated individuals but also there are quite a few fully vaccinated individuals getting COVID-19. While the unvaccinated are by far the most at risk of contracting and transmitting it, vaccinated people can develop symptoms and pass the virus onto others.

 

When a person who is fully vaccinated (14 days after the second dose) tests positive for the virus, this is referred to as a breakthrough case. Individuals who catch COVID-19 during the 14-day window are not considered breakthrough cases, because their bodies have yet to develop full immunity.

 

Globally, breakthroughs are happening, owing mostly to the extremely infectious Delta variant. This variant seems to have raised the risk of infections in previously vaccinated individuals. Despite that, the good news is all COVID-19-authorized vaccines in Thailand have been proven to be safe and effective against serious symptoms, hospitalization, and death. More importantly, one needs to understand that breakthrough cases are not the primary reason for Thailand’s current COVID-19 surge.

 

BREAKTHROUGH CASES SHOULD BE EXPECTED

 

Widespread fear about COVID-19 variants persists, driven in part by scary headlines and false expectations about the miraculous vaccines. Nonetheless, it is reasonable to anticipate breakthrough cases. This is because none of the COVID-19 vaccines are completely effective against infections. There are a variety of reasons for this, but the primary one is that viruses develop and alter over time as they transmit and reproduce, making it rather difficult for vaccines to keep up with the mutations. It is comparable to playing catch-up. This is also a frequent occurrence with non-COVID vaccines, which is why flu vaccines are always in development.

 

HOW COMMON ARE BREAKTHROUGH CASES

 

Cases of breakthrough are still regarded as very uncommon. They seem to be more prevalent in newly-discovered strains. Nevertheless, it is difficult to get a very comprehensive figure since many vaccinated individuals exhibit no symptoms and therefore cannot be confirmed. According to the Centers for Disease Control in the United States, as of 30 April 2021, there were 10,262 breakthrough cases out of 101 million fully vaccinated people in the U.S., accounting for 0.01 percent. In the case of Thailand, the surge of COVID-19 infections is not due to breakthrough instances. Using real-world data from frontline workers, unvaccinated individuals continue to account for the overwhelming majority of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths. Individuals who have not been vaccinated are 8 times more likely to contract the virus than those who have been immunized, and unvaccinated individuals are 10 times more likely to die than those who have been vaccinated.

 

YES, YOU SHOULD STILL GET VACCINATED

 

Individuals who are fully vaccinated have much greater protection against COVID-19 than those who are not. Immunized individuals who get sick are less likely to develop symptoms (if any) than those who are not vaccinated. Vaccinated individuals are also more likely to recover in a shorter span, even when exposed to the Delta variant.

 

UNDERSTAND YOUR RISKS

 

There has been a misunderstanding about the risks to vaccinated individuals and how vaccinated individuals should approach their lives. Individual risk for COVID-19 infection after immunization also varies according to geographical circumstances, general health, measures taken, and the frequency with which an individual is exposed to the unvaccinated who may be infected.

 

Many people seek clear answers about what they may and may not do after receiving the COVID-19 jabs. Is it OK to do a grocery run Is it safe to return to the office Is it too risky to visit the elders There is no one-size-fits-all response to such concerns, but the basic conclusion is that vaccines provide significant protection against COVID-19 and, with appropriate measures, enable people to restart more normal lives. Over-assurance about miraculous vaccines is a trap, and risk is contingent upon a variety of variables.

 

IMPORTANT REMINDER

 

Therefore, keep your guard up, particularly if you often interact with people who are ineligible for the vaccine, like young children. In public, wear a mask, maintain physical distance, and wash your hands often. While these breakthrough cases are relatively uncommon, they serve as a warning that the pandemic is far from finished.

 

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[JustAnotherHun]

Most deadly? Really?

[richard_smith237]

57 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said:

Most deadly? Really?

Agreed...  Both SARS-CoV-1 and MERS were far more deadly with case fatality rates of ±10% and ±30% respectively. 

Fortunately, both viruses had lower transmission.

 

This virus has killed more than other viruses in aggregate - as far as killers go, what about Malaria ? cancer ?

[Nojohndoe]

Keywords. Pandemic .  Sars and MERS never progressed to same status. Malaria , Dengue etc are endemic but avoidable.

[rvaviator]

11 minutes ago, Nojohndoe said:

Keywords. Pandemic .  Sars and MERS never progressed to same status. Malaria , Dengue etc are endemic but avoidable.

Yes ... not sure how many died of Malaria or Dengue in Norway last year ...

[adexgh]

You can live in fear for the rest of your life with 10 booster and 10 mask anytime. I won't

[smedly]

3 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

BREAKTHROUGH CASES SHOULD BE EXPECTED

it very much depends on which vaccine was used and how long after being vaccinated the breakthrough occured, plenty of data out there from the US and UK concerning vaccines that did not come from China 

[cdemundo]

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Agreed...  Both SARS-CoV-1 and MERS were far more deadly with case fatality rates of ±10% and ±30% respectively. 

Fortunately, both viruses had lower transmission.

 

This virus has killed more than other viruses in aggregate - as far as killers go, what about Malaria ? cancer ?

Higher case fatality rate, but immediately symptomatic so possible to eliminate through track and trace methods and isolation methods.

Yes more deaths as you observe "in aggregate".

Considering the media buzz at the time about SARS and MERS, SARS deaths = 774, and MERS = 858.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/sars/about/faq.html

"During November 2002 through July 2003, a total of 8,098 people worldwide became sick with severe acute respiratory syndrome that was accompanied by either pneumonia or respiratory distress syndrome (probable cases), according to the World Health Organization (WHO). Of these, 774 died."

 

https://www.who.int/health-topics/middle-east-respiratory-syndrome-coronavirus-mers#tab=tab_1

"Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) is a virus transferred to humans from infected dromedary camels. It is a zoonotic virus, meaning it is transmitted between animals and people, and it is contractable through direct or indirect contact with infected animals. MERS-CoV has been identified in dromedaries in several countries in the Middle East, Africa and South Asia. In total, 27 countries have reported cases since 2012, leading to 858 known deaths due to the infection and related complications. "

[hioctane]

40 minutes ago, smedly said:

it very much depends on which vaccine was used and how long after being vaccinated the breakthrough occured, plenty of data out there from the US and UK concerning vaccines that did not come from China 

It is less but still not zero.

[Tim207]

6 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

30 April 2021, there were 10,262 breakthrough cases out of 101 million fully vaccinated people in the U.S

This statistic is very misleading not to mention inaccurate. I was going to elaborate but screw it. i don't feel like correcting media manipulation today.

[itsari]

7 hours ago, smedly said:

it very much depends on which vaccine was used and how long after being vaccinated the breakthrough occured, plenty of data out there from the US and UK concerning vaccines that did not come from China 

Date from Uk and US when Chinese vaccines are not used there ? 

[Rampant Rabbit]

11 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

the most infectious and deadly virus of this century

scaremonegring, its  only  just started 21  years  in

[Rampant Rabbit]

10 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

This virus has killed more than other viruses in aggregate - as far as killers go, what about Malaria ? cancer ?

or  plain stupidity

[IamNoone88]

The economic damage on an individual level and the hardship and stress caused by lock downs is far more dangerous. People are facing huge financial difficulties on a massive level. So forget the BS breakthrough propaganda. Its the economy causing hardship that is the issue.

[milesinnz]

11 hours ago, JustAnotherHun said:

Most deadly? Really?

"This century".. which runs from 2000 to 2021... what other viruses have killed so many this century ?

[hotchilli]

11 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Globally, breakthroughs are happening, owing mostly to the extremely infectious Delta variant. This variant seems to have raised the risk of infections in previously vaccinated individuals. Despite that, the good news is all COVID-19-authorized vaccines in Thailand have been proven to be safe and effective against serious symptoms, hospitalization, and death. More importantly, one needs to understand that breakthrough cases are not the primary reason for Thailand’s current COVID-19 surge

One wonders then why Sinovac is still being used considering the Delta varant.

Another issue is the quoted "breakthrough" cases ie: after both vaccinations have been administered.

They must be minimal because  Thailand failed in not rolling out the vaccination programme in a timely manner, thus placing thousands at risk.

[jacko45k]

34 minutes ago, milesinnz said:

"This century".. which runs from 2000 to 2021... what other viruses have killed so many this century ?

No it doesn't, it started Jan 1st 2001. 

 

[TKDfella]

1 hour ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

scaremonegring, its  only  just started 21  years  in

Ha, right. Who knows, another virus may come along and ...extinction! Of course there wouldn't be anyone left to write about it, Ha!

[toolpush]

5 hours ago, Tim207 said:

This statistic is very misleading not to mention inaccurate. I was going to elaborate but screw it. i don't feel like correcting media manipulation today.

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/vermont-76-of-september-covid-deaths-were-fully-vaccinated/

[jacko45k]

2 minutes ago, TKDfella said:

Ha, right. Who knows, another virus may come along and ...extinction! Of course there wouldn't be anyone left to write about it, Ha!

Or possibly this one has not done with us yet, and has 80 more years to prove itself!

[mikebell]

8 hours ago, smedly said:

it very much depends on which vaccine was used and how long after being vaccinated the breakthrough occured, plenty of data out there from the US and UK concerning vaccines that did not come from China 

My daughter in UK, double jabbed with AZ, has come down with Covid; she is a teacher.

[jacko45k]

Just now, mikebell said:

My daughter in UK, double jabbed with AZ, has come down with Covid; she is a teacher.

How long after the 2nd jab? And is she symptomatic or simply testing positive.

[MrJ2U]

12 hours ago, JustAnotherHun said:

Most deadly? Really?

6 deadliest viruses of the 21st Century:

https://www.mdlinx.com/article/6-deadliest-viruses-of-the-21st-century/lfc-4534

 

[Dart12]

Imagine if your polio vaccine worked so well.  I'd be on my 112th shot and would have only had it 8 to 10 times already in my life.
 

[SiSePuede419]

I had a "mild" breakthrough covid infection in August four months after vaccinated.   Had I been unvaccinated, who knows?  I might be dead now.  But I got vaccinated and it protected my lungs.  Only a short 5 day illness.   The scariest symptom was the brain fog.  I ordered something online when I was sick and forgot my street address.   Yikes. 

 

Stay masked indoors (I got it by socializing indoors with no mask).

 

[Tonypandy]

A vaccine is not without risk, getting covid is a chance, getting the vaccine is a certainty.
 

[Jimbo2014]

Malaria kills about 400,000 per year - so 8.4 million between 2000 and 2021.  Covid is acknowledged to have killed under 5 million to date.  Also lets count people years of life left.  Covid is deadliest against those over 70 years and people already facing mortality risk from diseases such as diabetes.  Malaria by contrast kills children and young in high volumes.   

[Tonypandy]

38 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

How long after the 2nd jab? And is she symptomatic or simply testing positive.

The only people I know that have come down with Covid and these are in the low single figures, did so all after having the 2nd jab.  

[smedly]

12 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Both SARS-CoV-1 and MERS were far more deadly with case fatality rates of ±10% and ±30% respectively. 

Fortunately, both viruses had lower transmission.

exactly, you need to look at the whole profile of the virus and the pandemic including transmission ability

[kcpattaya]

Cancer