Could, should double vaccination become an entry visa and renewal requirement

[RubbaJohnny]

Will Immi require foreigners to prove vax?

[internationalism]

will require for entry, as now in thailand and almost everywhere in the world.

Not sure about extensions. It's not necessarily their business. I think more likely insurance (which is already obligatory for pensioners) or covid insurance

[ChaiyaTH]

2 minutes ago, internationalism said:

will require for entry, as now in thailand and almost everywhere in the world.

Not sure about extensions. It's not necessarily their business. I think more likely insurance (which is already obligatory for pensioners) or covid insurance

Until the booster shots come out and be mandatory, then immigration will check if you updated your vaxx with no. 4/5/6/7/8/29/30. All planned for early next year already.

Edited October 10, 2021 by ChaiyaTH

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

yes, should be law, for societal protection, no opting out, extend it to all vax, esp. for kids, no different to wearing seat belts or bike helmets.sensible limited exceptions of course.  break the law= penalties.

no vax or legal exemption ? stay home until vaxxed. no visitors. cant work from home= unemployed.

[digbeth]

double vax or recent test is going to be required for domestic air travel now

[MRToMRT]

I have no issues with non vaxed being allowed entry if they have insurance to cover their potential medical costs.

[Rimmer]

A misleading troll post has been removed

[sqwakvfr]

Slippery Slope?  Now double vaxed.  Next double vaxed with a booster.  Next triple vaxed with a booster. Next triple vaxed with a double boost.  A global Covid 19 Vaccination standard would help to avoid this muddled mess we have now.  But a globally accepted anything requires cooperation and that is now in very short supply.  

[Phoenix Rising]

38 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Until the booster shots come out and be mandatory, then immigration will check if you updated your vaxx with no. 4/5/6/7/8/29/30. All planned for early next year already.

Links to credible sources?

[RubbaJohnny]

1 hour ago, internationalism said:

will require for entry, as now in thailand and almost everywhere in the world.

Not sure about extensions. It's not necessarily their business. I think more likely insurance (which is already obligatory for pensioners) or covid insurance

Yes that is a real cocern fo aged with pre exisiting as the Thai list of approved firms may deem folks in their 90s etc uninsurable at any price, very important point and one to think about before burning bridges.

[RubbaJohnny]

1 hour ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Until the booster shots come out and be mandatory, then immigration will check if you updated your vaxx with no. 4/5/6/7/8/29/30. All planned for early next year already.

Interesting is that your opinion please? or their plan, its so hard to keep up and of cours ehere conflicting statements from medics TAT and government.

If you have a source be interested if you can add the  linky

[RubbaJohnny]

1 hour ago, WhiteBuffaloATM said:

yes, should be law, for societal protection, no opting out, extend it to all vax, esp. for kids, no different to wearing seat belts or bike helmets.sensible limited exceptions of course.  break the law= penalties.

no vax or legal exemption ? stay home until vaxxed. no visitors. cant work from home= unemployed.

Ok what age do you think of kids high schhol under 18, under 1o etc and why ? They may not suffer but can transmit once mixing at school. Not sure anywhere is vaxxing toddlers under 4s ?

You raise an important issue about enforcement which is haphazard, a bike can be confisctaed, drunks jailed but unvaxxed kids?

[RubbaJohnny]

1 hour ago, digbeth said:

double vax or recent test is going to be required for domestic air travel now

If you have a source be interested if you can add souce?

 

How many days after double vax please, net suggest c2 weeks for full protection?

. I hope to fly to Had Yai in new year will be double vaxxed have cert etc.

I realize it is a dynamic situation and I imagine boosters will be continuously needed.

I read c 6months teh protection fades?

 

Is that the law of Thailand, MPOH advice or the airlines rules please?

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

RJ: my general point is that all kids must be protected from stupid parents and have by law all govt. recommended vax; polio, diptheria, MMR , Covid etc. Parents otherwisePenalized under Law.

[RubbaJohnny]

Thanks since posting I  also realized teh same agents will see a new gravy stream all those fake income and savings letters will now have a surcharge for phoney VAx options, perhaps a major reason this may be applied not for our or teh nations benefit but becuse of teh eternal motive profit.

 

Of course Immi Offices can simplify not by rule just demanding proof to enter their premises to protect them and of course drect the hesitant to ther agent friend, or am I being too cycnical? With reduced flow of new expats , older dying of Covid or natural causes a boost to the income stream will be eyeyd keenly. In fact the unvaxxed may become teh richest sem , nay even a HUB?

[Jeffr2]

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/unvaccinated-people-are-increasing-the-chances-for-more-coronavirus-variants-heres-how

[Jeffr2]

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/227713/coronavirus-infections-three-times-lower-double/

[Jeffr2]

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/a-persons-decision-not-to-vaccinate-affects-others-as-unvaccinated-people-are-more-likely-to-get-infected-and-spread-covid-19-contrary-to-claim-in-facebook-post/

 

I'm hard core pro vaccine as I want to get back to a normal life as soon as possible. Anti vaxxers and covid deniers are our biggest impediment now.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/misinformation-serious-threat-public-health-surgeon-general-warns-rcna1428

 

“Health misinformation is a serious threat to public health. It can cause confusion, sow mistrust, harm people’s health, and undermine public health efforts. Limiting the spread of health misinformation is a moral and civic imperative,” he said in the advisory, first reported by National Public Radio.

False information can lead to hesitancy to get vaccinated against the novel coronavirus, leading to preventable deaths, Murthy said, noting misinformation can affect other health conditions and is a worldwide problem.

“American lives are at risk,” he said in separate statement.

Edited October 10, 2021 by Jeffr2

[Moonlover]

I'd go along with it being required for entry into the country, at least for now. But not for extensions of stay. Vaccination is not a compulsory requirement within the country therefor it would discriminatory for immigration to insist on it.

[NorthernRyland]

2 hours ago, MRToMRT said:

I have no issues with non vaxed being allowed entry if they have insurance to cover their potential medical costs.

and I have no issues with over 65+, smokers and the obese being allowed entry providing they can cover their medical costs.

[Moonlover]

2 hours ago, internationalism said:

will require for entry, as now in thailand and almost everywhere in the world.

Not sure about extensions. It's not necessarily their business. I think more likely insurance (which is already obligatory for pensioners) or covid insurance

Since when was insurance obligatory for pensioners?

[NorthernRyland]

23 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

I'm hard core pro vaccine as I want to get back to a normal life as soon as possible. Anti vaxxers and covid deniers are our biggest impediment now.

Impediment to what? Life goes back to normal when you chose to live a normal life. I for example stopped caring about COVID about 12 months ago and so life is back to normal now. Take all the vaccines you want, COVID's not going away and everyone is still going to get infected.

[Jeffr2]

Just now, NorthernRyland said:

Impediment to what? Life goes back to normal when you chose to live a normal life. I for example stopped caring about COVID about 12 months ago and so life is back to normal now. Take all the vaccines you want, COVID's not going away and everyone is still going to get infected.

I guess if you don't travel, stay near home, don't eat out or frequent bars, then life could be a bit normal. Otherwise, BS. Life is far from normal.

[Moonlover]

2 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Until the booster shots come out and be mandatory, then immigration will check if you updated your vaxx with no. 4/5/6/7/8/29/30. All planned for early next year already.

From where did you get this (dis)information?

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, RubbaJohnny said:

Yes that is a real cocern fo aged with pre exisiting as the Thai list of approved firms may deem folks in their 90s etc uninsurable at any price, very important point and one to think about before burning bridges.

Do any Thai insurance companies actually insure 90 year old farangs, and if they do, is the insurance actually worth it?

[thaibeachlovers]

21 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

I guess if you don't travel, stay near home, don't eat out or frequent bars, then life could be a bit normal. Otherwise, BS. Life is far from normal.

Depends where living.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, RubbaJohnny said:

Interesting is that your opinion please? or their plan, its so hard to keep up and of cours ehere conflicting statements from medics TAT and government.

If you have a source be interested if you can add the  linky

IMO the /29/30 indicates that his post is satirical. Got a few jumping though.

Edited October 10, 2021 by thaibeachlovers

[robblok]

1 hour ago, cclub75 said:

Sources for such bold affirmations, please ?

 

In one sentence, you provide huge news but without any backing whatsoever.

 

I thought fake news were forbidden ? !

 

-non vaxxed are "super spreaders" : what about Singapore (80 % double vaccinated) ? Israel etc ? You do know that vaccinated people transmit the infection ?

 

Your bitterness, as vaccinated, can be explained... It doesn't work very well. And in 6 months you'll have to do it again.

 

In Israel the "green pass" must be revalidated with a third doses... otherwise no restaurants etc.

 

Source : https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-requires-covid-19-booster-shots-stricter-green-pass-2021-10-03/

 

But do not speak about "superspreaders"... this is a fake news.

 

There isn't any scientific study to backup this fantasy.

Its a fact that people who are vaccinated spread up to 50% less covid. Its a fact that those who are vaccinated take up far less hosptital resources up to 10 times less.

 

You as an antivaxer uses Singapore and Israel to show that people who are vaccinated can still get covid but nobody denies that. Also its not so strange that if you have a high vaccination level that there then will be vaccinated people ending up in hospital. Its just a numbers game. If you got 80% who take the vaccine then its logical that there will also be more vaccinated who get infected then in a country where vaccination level is 20%. So using those countries is stupid. Also its now been accepted that booster shorts are needed. 

 

No its NOT fake news id say anyone who spreads 50% more is a super spreader. But in your selfish mind you only think about what you want not about the greater good. 

 

I hope it becomes mandatory at least it would help Thailand attract a better kind of tourists less fruitcakes. 

 

An article in the BBC quotes a US hospital worker who says she does not want a vaccine because of religious reasons saying god gave her a good working immune system so its gods choice. I really wonder how stupid people like that are. I mean (if you follow that reasoning) god also made bones and humans. So all damage and disease we get is gods will. So why are there hospitals and why would she work at one if health is gods bigger plan. Its so contradictory that she uses god for vaccines but not for the rest of medical stuff (as she works as a health worker). It shows the stupidity of antivaxxers and religious people. 

 

[KhaoYai]

1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

Non vaxxed are now the super spreaders, the majority of those dying, the ones taking up valuable medical resources, and the ones preventing an end to the pandemic.

Agreed but surely you mean refusers? Those who can't have the vaccine for medical reasons must be excepted.

[KhaoYai]

3 minutes ago, robblok said:

Also its now been accepted that booster shorts are needed. 

Booster SHORTS???? I shudder to think what they are ????.