superal Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Is there any news on the Thai / Cambodia land borders / immigration opening ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiexpat Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) I'm guessing the mandatory 1 night stay in the "Quarantine⁹ Free" hotel will cost about 7,000 baht* Plus approx. 3,000 baht for 30 days mandatory covid insurance Plus approx. 3,000 baht for mandatory pre-departure PCR That's 13,000 baht additional costs before I take one step in free Thailand to get that ice cold beer while mingling with smiling girls...oh wait * 1 night hotel booking is supposed to include transport from airport, PCR test on arrival and an ATK the tourist takes with them for self test on day 6-7 Edited October 23, 2021 by aussiexpat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mar zarych Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I just read the requirements for the grand reopening: https://coethailand.mfa.go.th/ They expect regular tourists to go through that BS ? I'll go anywhere that does not require me to spend extra money for the right to be a tourist. I've had 2 jabs AND a booster shot. They are the ones who are not vaccinated and I have to pay extra ? No way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 On 10/22/2021 at 10:14 AM, DirtyHarry55 said: Nice marketing trick calling it "QUARANTINE FREE" when your still have to do 1 Day Quarantine so it's not really. Are The Chuckle Brothers, Cha Cha and his deputy, not well known for their lies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 On 10/22/2021 at 11:40 AM, CRUNCHER said: Common sense says that you combine time in Thailand with the time you spend in the country you visit. But who says anything the Government does is driven by common sense. How can anything driven by common sense be attributed to a bunch of unelected soldiers with an average Thailand IQ? ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hottrader77 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 On 10/22/2021 at 10:16 AM, darksidedog said: You have to ask the question, why would anyone want to come, when it is going to involve additional insurance expense, aggravation and stress just getting in, when there isn't any entertainment open and you can't enjoy a beer as you try to unwind? Lets not forget the proposed 500 Baht entry tax from the New Year adding to the list of negatives. It is obviously better than it was, but places with less or no restrictions are going to look far more attractive. It will be interesting to hear the latest tourist number projections from TAT and then see how that fares against reality down the track a little. Because they want sex , but it will cost , pcr test , antigen tests , hotel for 1 night , traveling after 7 days pcr tests and again on arrival , I'm counting at least 5 pcr tests , insurance and hotel quarentine , 1900 pcr x 5 = 9500bt + 20000 bt insurance + 2000 1 night quarentine + if you want to travel again another 2 or 3 pcr or rapid tests , a roundabout cost of 35,000 bt + accomodation for 2 weeks 10,000 bt and that's before you start on the food and women bar fines and rip offs . So who is going to pay 1,000 uk pounds to start with extra just to come for 2 weeks + flights , women and food and drink . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, hottrader77 said: Because they want sex , but it will cost , pcr test , antigen tests , hotel for 1 night , traveling after 7 days pcr tests and again on arrival , I'm counting at least 5 pcr tests , insurance and hotel quarentine , 1900 pcr x 5 = 9500bt + 20000 bt insurance + 2000 1 night quarentine + if you want to travel again another 2 or 3 pcr or rapid tests , a roundabout cost of 35,000 bt + accomodation for 2 weeks 10,000 bt and that's before you start on the food and women bar fines and rip offs . So who is going to pay 1,000 uk pounds to start with extra just to come for 2 weeks + flights , women and food and drink . If that's the case, why come, just stay home and view pornhub or just hook up from Craigslist, oh wait they must be handsome men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBF Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 20 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: UK is currently suffering 115 daily deaths (with Covid-19 on the Death Certificate). UK is currently suffering 52,000 daily new Covid-19 cases. UK is currently testing approximately 1 million people per day. Thailand is currently suffering 73 daily deaths (with Covid-19 on the Death Certificate). Thailand is currently suffering 9,727 daily new Covid-19 cases. Thailand is currently testing approximately 40-50,000 people per day. The UK is testing more and has a lot less deaths per positive cases than Thailand. A fair guess would that this is due to the fact that the UK is far further along its vaccination program than Thailand. Absolutely and I don't mean to take that away from them (us). I was merely pointing out that the UK timing of the imposing/restricting of various rules wasn't that brilliant. And it looks like we're doing it again! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59011321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 6 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: It might be pure speculation but this is a forum to discuss things and not out of the realm of possibilities for what I discussed, of course your views are also valid. Cheers, and thanks for not cutting my post down to change the meaning as written. Discussing speculation is what creates unsubstantiated rumor. When someone posts they have heard expats will be treated different to tourists, you will have the inside story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 6 hours ago, aussiexpat said: That's 13,000 baht additional costs before I take one step in free Thailand to get that ice cold beer while mingling with smiling girls...oh wait Cost me nearly that in tests alone to enter the UK a few weeks back, far less the 6 nights isolation in the Holiday Inn, at £80/night that was the cheapest by a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALSinCM Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Nov 1st: Quarantine free countries named - one night must be in SHA+ or AQ hotel - curfew lifted, bars stay shut - tea-toddlers arrive in dozens. Everyone else books flights elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALSinCM Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 22 hours ago, snoop1130 said: ANGKOK (NNT) - Nighttime curfew in 17 provinces in the government’s pilot tourism campaign will be lifted from 31 October, just ahead of the country’s 1 November reopening plan. Certain disease control measures will remain in place, while nightclubs and bars are not allowed to reopen in this initial phase. There's curfews??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 russia not listed wonder why?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradise Pete Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 On 10/22/2021 at 7:18 AM, richard_smith237 said: The UK is testing more and has a lot less deaths per positive cases than Thailand. Maybe that's due to the prevalence of the AZ vaccine, which doesn't do so well at preventing infection from Delta, but does a good job of keeping people from dying of it? Just my speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daejung Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 On 10/22/2021 at 4:31 AM, webfact said: This stated that at least one night's hotel accommodation MUST be booked or until a negative test result comes in. That means one night quarantine or more if you do no get the test result after one night. You have to book an hotel and cannot stay elsewhere. And bars still closed. I'll wait till situation is back to normal : I will come to enjoy my stay, not to subsidize thai economy, even if I am more worried about thai economy than the junta istself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daejung Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 On 10/22/2021 at 5:14 AM, DirtyHarry55 said: Nice marketing trick calling it "QUARANTINE FREE" when your still have to do 1 Day Quarantine so it's not really. Being asked to stay home, or in an hotel you chose, for 24 hours is ont hing. Asking to stay in a SHA or AQ hotel is another thing. I will not come back. When I was in Greece last summer, only non vaccinated people (I was vaccainated) had to stay 1 night wherever they wanted. Tests were free and people tested positive were supposed to be transferred to another hotel for quarantine at Greek governement's expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, daejung said: Being asked to stay home, or in an hotel you chose, for 24 hours is ont hing. Asking to stay in a SHA or AQ hotel is another thing. I will not come back. Given that many hotels are SHA certified I believe that the overwhelming majority of people don't find this as onerous as you apparently do. I saw one SHA hotel in South Pattaya that looked quite nice advertised at $30 a night. Why are you even posting here if you don't plan on returning to Thailand? Edited October 23, 2021 by ozimoron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratus Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Given that many hotels are SHA certified I believe that the overwhelming majority of people don't find this as onerous as you apparently do. I saw one SHA hotel in South Pattaya that looked quite nice advertised at $30 a night. Why are you even posting here if you don't plan on returning to Thailand? not SHA hotel but SHA+ so you must go by ASQ booking It seems that there is n't any SHA+ hotel in Bangkok (only AQ hotel) 1 Night Reservation at SHA+ or AQ Hotel Edited October 23, 2021 by ratus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Given that many hotels are SHA certified I believe that the overwhelming majority of people don't find this as onerous as you apparently do. I saw one SHA hotel in South Pattaya that looked quite nice advertised at $30 a night. Why are you even posting here if you don't plan on returning to Thailand? It needs to be SHA+ not just SHA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ratus said: not SHA hotel but SHA+ so you must go by ASQ booking It seems that there is n't any SHA+ hotel in Bangkok (only AQ hotel) 1 Night Reservation at SHA+ or AQ Hotel 8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: It needs to be SHA+ not just SHA Here are some SHA+ hotels in Pattaya that I found in eleven seconds. https://asq.in.th/pattaya-sha-plus-go-hotels Edited October 23, 2021 by ozimoron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, ozimoron said: I stand corrected but still consider one night in any hotel not to be an impediment under the circumstances. It's nonsensical to consider that the authorities are going to allow an untested arrival to roam freely. That would be madness. They are tested before they depart for Thailand but the issue here is not the test for me its the phrasing of the Official line, ie quarantine free, its not quarantine free, be honest about it and sell it for what it actually is, test and go after one night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: They are tested before they depart for Thailand but the issue here is not the test for me its the phrasing of the Official line, ie quarantine free, its not quarantine free, be honest about it and sell it for what it actually is, test and go after one night. That's your opinion. I do not consider having to wait a reasonable time for a test result to constitute quarantine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, ozimoron said: That's your opinion. I do not consider having to wait a reasonable time for a test result to constitute quarantine. Not my opinion its a fact, quarantine free it is not when you have to book into an SHA+ hotel and stay there for a night or longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, Bkk Brian said: Not my opinion its a fact, quarantine free it is not when you have to book into an SHA+ hotel and stay there for a night or longer. Whose definition is that besides yours? The Thai government consider that not to be quarantine and I agree with them. Not to put too fine a point on it but the very hotel I would stay in is listed in the link I provided anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, ozimoron said: Whose definition is that besides yours? The Thai government consider that not to be quarantine and I agree with them. Not to put too fine a point on it but the very hotel I would stay in is listed in the link I provided anyway. Oh right the Thai government considers it not to be quarantine, yea right, got it..???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, Bkk Brian said: Oh right the Thai government considers it not to be quarantine, yea right, got it..???? I asked you who defines 3 or 4 hours in a hotel of your choosing to be quarantine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, ozimoron said: I asked you who defines 3 or 4 hours in a hotel of your choosing to be quarantine? Who told you its 3 or 4 hours, please show me the official link to that? Its a booking for one night and if you arrive in the evening you will be almost sure to have to stay there at least one night. Just because its possible to arrive early in the morning and perhaps get tested and released earlier then maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratus Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) some questions about Quote 1 Night Reservation at SHA+ or AQ Hotel Note: Payment Confirmation required it seems that the 1rst night booking must included the airport transfer full board and 1 test PCR as per AQ rules so may we book direct with the hotel or we have to use the 1 day AQ package ? https://asq.in.th/?durationSelectedItem=1+Day Edited October 23, 2021 by ratus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, Bkk Brian said: Who told you its 3 or 4 hours, please show me the official link to that? Its a booking for one night and if you arrive in the evening you will be almost sure to have to stay there at least one night. Just because its possible to arrive early in the morning and perhaps get tested and released earlier then maybe. My flights have always arrived in Thailand in the day time but that isn't the point. Either way, it isn't onerous. If you don't want to go just don't go but you don't need to come winging here about trivial inconveniences because you have a political agenda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daejung Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 38 minutes ago, ozimoron said: .Why are you even posting here if you don't plan on returning to Thailand? Like many others here, just because I don't like these conditions. It's not a matter of hotel ASQ price. I just want to choose the place where I go, not being like in jail. If only people who agree with thai govt policy would have the right to post, you wouldn't have much to read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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