Popular Post webfact Posted October 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2021 A box of the Moderna Covid-19 coronavirus vaccine. (Photo by CHAIDEER MAHYUDDIN / AFP) It is now official: the first batch of Moderna vaccine will land in Thailand by November 5. However, before rushing out to get a jab, you need to know a few things – including that a Moderna booster shot may contain just half the normal dose. As of Sunday (October 24), nearly 40 million people in Thailand had received at least one anti-COVID injection, while 28.4 million were double-jabbed. Many of these people opted to get vaccinated while waiting for the Moderna doses to arrive. So, how much Moderna vaccine will they need as a booster? General advice on booster shots still varies, and many experts caution against getting over-vaccinated. However, some private hospitals are proposing to administer the full 100-microgram (mcg) Moderna shot as a booster for people who received their second shot of another COVID vaccine several months ago. Discover Cigna’s range of health insurance solutions created for expats and local nationals living in Thailand - click to view Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/full-dose-or-half-dose-clearing-up-confusion-over-moderna-boosters/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2021-10-25 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 2 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Geoffggi Posted October 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2021 Clear as mud..!! 15 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4MyEgo Posted October 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2021 31 minutes ago, webfact said: General advice on booster shots still varies, and many experts caution against getting over-vaccinated. However, some private hospitals are proposing to administer the full 100-microgram (mcg) Moderna shot as a booster for people who received their second shot of another COVID vaccine several months ago. From an article on 29 September 2021 below. Proceeding with a 50-microgram dose could reduce the risk of side effects from a booster, and would also allow Moderna to produce more doses globally in the near-term. That would ease supply constraints and potentially blunt criticisms of rich countries beginning sprawling booster campaigns before many nations have given widespread first shots. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-29/fda-leans-toward-authorizing-moderna-booster-at-a-half-dose 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThomasThBKK Posted October 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2021 people paid the full price for a full dose, hope they will all get refunded half of it if they get only half doses. 55555 .... We all know that won't happen. 3 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post finnsk Posted October 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) There is no science evidence for the booster shot can be only 50 % of the recommended dose from the producer. My thai wife get 2 chinese isopharm shot just to give her some protection when she is waiting for the Moderna shots, as we paid for 5 months ago, she want the 2 shot of Moderna to get the best protection, now we will see if she can get that or she only can get one 50 % shot. Edited October 25, 2021 by finnsk 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MasterBaker Posted October 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2021 I would just follow US CDC, why invent bicycle? 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IamNoone88 Posted October 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2021 My father in the UK received 2 x Astra Zenica and a booster shot of Pfizer - full dose, just last week. No side effects. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonder6281 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Is that a half dose booster every 3 months, or just go for the full dose booster every 6 months? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dogmatix Posted October 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2021 3 hours ago, finnsk said: There is no science evidence for the booster shot can be only 50 % of the recommended dose from the producer. My thai wife get 2 chinese isopharm shot just to give her some protection when she is waiting for the Moderna shots, as we paid for 5 months ago, she want the 2 shot of Moderna to get the best protection, now we will see if she can get that or she only can get one 50 % shot. People who have had the Chinese vaccines would be well advised to considered themselves unvaccinated and get the full course of 2x 100mg Moderna. 4 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pib Posted October 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2021 The booster doze size varies depending on the vaccine. For Pfizer and J&J a booster dose is the same dosage level as the initial jabs. But for Moderna the booster dose is half dosage level of the initial jabs. https://www.verywellhealth.com/cdc-boosters-moderna-johnson-and-johnson-5206847 The Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson booster will be administered with the same dosage as the initial vaccine, while Moderna’s will be a half dose at 50 mg. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vandeventer Posted October 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Geoffggi said: Clear as mud..!! What next short people get a half of dose? 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GroveHillWanderer Posted October 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2021 3 hours ago, finnsk said: There is no science evidence for the booster shot can be only 50 % of the recommended dose from the producer. Of course there is. If there wasn't, the US FDA wouldn't have approved it. There is a link to the full study data and information in the link below. FDA review of Moderna booster data. Here also, is a table from the study, showing high antibody titres are generated after a half-dose booster shot. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted October 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2021 6 hours ago, webfact said: It is now official: the first batch of Moderna vaccine will land in Thailand by November 5. However, before rushing out to get a jab, you need to know a few things – including that a Moderna booster shot may contain just half the normal dose. All part of the "lets go halves scheme" Punters paid full price for two vaccinations, hospitals administer half, sell the other half for profit. Win win. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerandDog Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, ThomasThBKK said: people paid the full price for a full dose, hope they will all get refunded half of it if they get only half doses. 55555 .... We all know that won't happen. The other concern re refunds for Moderna is that yesterday the price was announced as 550 baht per jab, whereas when we pre-booked/registered we had to pay 1200 baht per jab. I'm betting we won't see a refund of that either. Edited October 25, 2021 by TigerandDog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couchpotato Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, TigerandDog said: The other concern re refunds for Moderna is that yesterday the price was announced as 550 baht per jab, whereas when we pre-booked/registered we had to pay 1200 baht per jab. I'm betting we won't see a refund of that either. Actually you are half right. Most hospitals charged 1650 baht per dose (through the Private Hospitals Association), and there will be no refunds, but are transferable. The 550 baht you are talking about is the price the 'Thai Red Cross' are charging, nothing to do with the Hospital prices. But these doses are not for individuals..more for companies etc, and they also have to donate some doses for vulnerable people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lemonltr Posted October 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2021 3 hours ago, kiwikeith said: There is some good official data presented by Dr John Campbell on this very subject, on U Tube just type his name and include booster shots. Seems that any vaccine may be used as a booster, but don,t believe me, watch the scientific data and papers on this, presented by Dr John Campbell . He's excellent. All based on hard data worldwide. Has a special interest in Asia as worked in Cambodia and I believe in India too. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 First, people have paid in advance for the Moderna, been waiting for months instead of talking using it as a booster full or partial how about making sure those who haven't been vaccinated paid the full amount deposit for the product get fully vaccinated 2 jabs with the full doses what people pay and expect before talking water down the product for booster! Unbelievable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliebadenhop Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I have now sold my two shots, and I have a friend that would like to do the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkski Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) I had my booster moderna at a Utah , USA Walmart store Friday. Just booked appointment online 2 hours prior. Lots of open slots all afternoon and next day. Nobody in line. Kid said it was half dose and they had lots of vaccine. I had choice of phizer or moderna. Didn't ask or see JJ on the list. Current eligible groups are those over 65 and high exposure workers or those with risk factors but also those of any age or health who had the JJ. Like me. This is Just more reason to think the JJ provided real poor protection. 48 hours later my arm is still sore.first 28 hours arm was real sore and hard to sleep. Should have taken a pain pill. I think only 2-3 million doses of JJ were used in USA so th current booster drive is for mostly over 65 or Frontline people or at risk. If the US thinks JJ was such a poor vaccine just imagine how low sinavac would score. Edited October 25, 2021 by Elkski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlhalliday Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Looks like I will not be getting my shot as there is no way I would pay in advance. I will only pay cash on delivery. This government cannot be trusted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 43 minutes ago, Elkski said: If the US thinks JJ was such a poor vaccine just imagine how low sinavac would score. The US medical authorities don't think J&J is a "poor" vaccine...it's just not as good as Pfizer or Moderna. Let's just say the J&J vaccine is an OK vaccine, but not an excellent vaccine in terms of efficacy when compared to Pfizer and Moderna. Heck the US is recommending booster shots for Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J since all three lose some of their effectiveness over time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 6 hours ago, kiwikeith said: There is some good official data presented by Dr John Campbell on this very subject, on U Tube just type his name and include booster shots. Seems that any vaccine may be used as a booster, but don,t believe me, watch the scientific data and papers on this, presented by Dr John Campbell . Always get your medical advice from some random guy on YouTube. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aforek Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Elkski said: If the US thinks JJ was such a poor vaccine just imagine how low sinavac would score. JJ was made for Alpha variant, now with Delta, it needs a booster 3 days ago I got a Moderna booster after one dose of JJ three months ago , no side effect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginner Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 11 hours ago, Geoffggi said: Clear as mud..!! It's just Thai scientist and Thai doctors trying to make it look complicated to the masses so as to make themselves look smart. Ha! 2 shoots few months later booster 100% shot finished, till next year. ha! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 17 hours ago, wonder6281 said: Is that a half dose booster every 3 months, or just go for the full dose booster every 6 months? Getting Covid after having the shots is as good as getting a booster according to news sources. Just get Covid (asymptomatic of course) and don't bother with a booster, if you've already been vaccinated. Oh, the original article seems to imply that half a dose is a dose, sort of like roses by any other name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukKrueng Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 15 hours ago, TigerandDog said: The other concern re refunds for Moderna is that yesterday the price was announced as 550 baht per jab, whereas when we pre-booked/registered we had to pay 1200 baht per jab. I'm betting we won't see a refund of that either. When a new phone is announced and people precook it they pay premium price, whereas smarter people who wait a couple of months get better deals.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayClay Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, LukKrueng said: When a new phone is announced and people precook it they pay premium price, whereas smarter people who wait a couple of months get better deals.... Very rarely is a new phone a life-or-death situation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkski Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 John Campbell on YouTube is not a random guy. He's produced YouTube videos almost daily for the last 18 months on covid topic. try it you may learn something , although they take a lot of time to watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uli65 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 for myself I prefer the no dose option 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 U.S. Booster info: The CDC recommends booster shots for select recipients of the Moderna or Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, six months after completing vaccination. Eligibility includes those ages 65+ and those ages 18-64 with underlying health conditions or at high risk for occupational or institutional exposure. Age 18+ recipients of the Johnson and Johnson (Janssen) vaccine are eligible for a booster shot two months after initial immunization. https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p1021-covid-booster.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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