Yellow book requirements

[brianthainess]

On 10/27/2021 at 2:34 PM, Will B Good said:

Just started to do mine.....first two hoops.....

1. passport translated by authorized body and

2. passport verified by embassy. 

I got mine and didn't need anything translated although i'm married and the wife was with me if that makes any difference, but a house not a condo. 

[sirineou]

 

 

On 10/27/2021 at 3:40 PM, thaibook said:

thank you for all your replies which are helpful.  Just a simple follow on question - is the certified copy of th epassport to be translated simply the bio page or is it the whole document.  Irrelevant to this but when I was applying for my US O visa I had to supply a copy of every page of every passport my wife and I had ever had.

As said by others go to the office and ask, Some offices in different locations are more strict than others,

I could not be bothered and I hired an agent, It was only $300 and two weeks later I had a Yellow book, I don't know how it was done and frankly I don't care to know.

     It has been useful to have, 

Recently my wife bought an SUV that she financed  a percentage of. She has no income and she used me as a cosigner,, The loan was with Toyota leasing. Me being on the yellow book went a long way toward  securing the loan, especially since all of my income is outside Thailand. 

Edited October 29, 2021 by sirineou

[StevieAus]

On 10/27/2021 at 3:32 PM, richard_smith237 said:

Experience on this varies and has been debated at length on this forum. 

 

Some have found the Yellow Book (and Pink ID) useful, others have not. 

 

Personal experience:  

1) Useful when popping into a Bank ( I don’t carry my Passport with me all the time, Bank does not accept DL)

2) Can open a Bank Account with Yellow Book

3) Pink ID is useful IF needing to prove ID anywhere  (where a DL may not be accepted)

4) Avoids dual Pricing at ‘most places’ (where a DL doesn’t cut it)

5) Useful to register on Mor Prom (vaccines - its actually possible to secure a number without the Yellow Tabien Baan). 

6) Easy renewal of Driving Licences without having to get expensive Embassy issued Affirmation of Address document (never in Thailand longer than 90 days so can’t get Proof of address from Immigration) 

*Note: Oddly enough, Some DLT’s do not accept the Yellow Book as proof of address (which is extremely odd as its the ‘ultimate proof of address’ in Thailand !!!).

 

From a personal perspective I have found the Yellow Tabien Baan and carrying the Pink ID to be useful but not essential. 

 

 

What is extremely odd about the DLT, is that I live in Chiang Mai Province, the Head Office in Chiang Mai accept the pink ID card but the local office will not.

I obtain the residence certificate from the local Immigration Office, as they issue the licence for six years it’s not really a drama.

[Peterw42]

These yellow book threads always have a level of misunderstanding and misinformation.

 

99% of what people call "getting a yellow book" is completing an alien registration process and then going "IN" a yellow book.

 

A yellow book belongs to a property and lists the foreigners who live there. Its not a personal possession, you are simply listed in it (same as bluebook), if you move, you go in another yellow book for the new residence. You can obtain a blank yellow book for a property but thats no different to a blank bluebook.

 

To go "IN" a yellow book, you first have to complete the alien registration process (This is 90% of the ampher visit and usually involves official translation of name into Thai etc).

The alien registration process creates a unique 13 digit Thai ID number, then you can be entered into a yellow book (and various other Thai databases).

The 13 digit number then gets you a Pink ID.

 

Peoples enquiries should be alien registration enquiries, then you can go in a yellow book, get a license, open a bank account, enter into an internet contract etc etc, using Thai ID number

 

 

 

 

[Raphael Hythlodaeus]

1 hour ago, Peterw42 said:

These yellow book threads always have a level of misunderstanding and misinformation.

I agree with your post and you did say "usually involves official translation of name into Thai etc" which is fair enough.

But just to say that personally I did not have to supply any official translations. That was 15 years ago for my 1st YB when they used a large ledger book to enter the details. I did have to go with a Thai who swore she had known me for some years. My 2nd YB was obtained in the last couple of years from a different Amphur and again without official translations but without a Thai to accompany me. 

 

As others have said, it seems to depend on the Amphur, whether or not the staff are in a good mood, and phases of the moon. Just go to the Amphur and ask them what they require. Take all the usual docs and they might do it there and then with minimal hassle and cost. But maybe not !

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

Raphael: main point is that its not available to the rest of us NOW.

As confirmed by IvorB and Sheryl.

[Raphael Hythlodaeus]

14 minutes ago, WhiteBuffaloATM said:

Raphael: main point is that its not available to the rest of us NOW.

As confirmed by IvorB and Sheryl.

Sorry to be so pernickety, but you stated "or has ever existed" which is not true. I just wanted to state the facts, not conjecture. And of course I still have the designated hospital card for the 30 baht scheme which has not been cancelled as far as I'm aware.

Edited October 29, 2021 by Raphael Hythlodaeus

[transam]

The 30bht hospital thingy.

When I got my yellow book, 14 years back, we asked at our local hospital if I can get on the scheme, we knew a lady at the hozzy, so she did the enquiry for us.

 

The answer was no, the reason, the yellow book has an information/ID number, your number does not start (or end) with the number "_", can't remember what it was, but think "0"...

Anyhoooo, that number is the key, what ever it is..????

[Will B Good]

2 hours ago, brianthainess said:

I got mine and didn't need anything translated although i'm married and the wife was with me if that makes any difference, but a house not a condo. 

Same situation......different Amphur I guess!!!!

[Raphael Hythlodaeus]

36 minutes ago, transam said:

The 30bht hospital thingy.

When I got my yellow book, 14 years back, we asked at our local hospital if I can get on the scheme, we knew a lady at the hozzy, so she did the enquiry for us.

 

The answer was no, the reason, the yellow book has an information/ID number, your number does not start (or end) with the number "_", can't remember what it was, but think "0"...

Anyhoooo, that number is the key, what ever it is..????

TIT. Please note that in my case about 10 years ago the government health hot line said YES based on my Yellow Tabian Bahn ID number which starts with the number "6" and gave the choice of 3 government hospitals in Bangkok. I chose the nearest one to my condo (still 40-minutes away) but when we went there they said NO, telling us it was only for migrant workers from Cambodia or Burma.

Standing at the hospital reception desk I asked my daughter (who speaks Thai) to phone the health hot line again. After some discussion I asked my daughter to pass the phone to the receptionist. A few minutes conversation then took place between the hot line person and the receptionist, after which the receptionist said OK, I could have the card.

So the secret was to get in touch with the health hot line FIRST and then go to the hospital.

Maybe I was lucky. Maybe they don't give it now. All I know is I have it and paid 30 baht to see a doc last year (2020).

Edited October 29, 2021 by Raphael Hythlodaeus

[IvorBiggun2]

1 hour ago, Raphael Hythlodaeus said:

I still have the designated hospital card for the 30 baht scheme which has not been cancelled as far as I'm aware.

In a way it has. Since the scheme expired the price to see a doctor at a government hospital has risen to 50 for a farang.

 

 

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Govt hospital 50 baht.

Where are you?

I use the Srinakarin hospital in Khon Kaen. Went yesterday saw heart specialist and got 12 weeks med,plus blood checked all for less then 900 baht Heart specialist was 50 baht charge on bill.

Sorry saw Surat second time i read post. If you mean Suat thani they have a very good government hospital give it a try.

 

 

 

48 minutes ago, transam said:

the yellow book has an information/ID number, your number does not start (or end) with the number "_", can't remember what it was, but think "0"...

My missus says there is no difference between the 2 books other than the colour. You can't fool a Thai woman.  

Edited October 29, 2021 by IvorBiggun2

[Raphael Hythlodaeus]

4 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

In a way it has. Since the scheme expired the price to see a doctor at a government hospital has risen to 50 for a farang.

 

My missus says there is no difference between the 2 books other than the colour. You can't fool a Thai woman.  

I'm packing my bags. 50 baht ? Outrageous. More to the point, those gov hospital queues can be horrendous so not for the faint hearted.

By the way, I also tried to register with the gov 50% off app but when I tried entering the first number "6" in my Yellow book it was immediately rejected.

However, where there's a will there's a way, and I put the app on my phone using the missus's ID number. It works !! I can even buy amber liquid with it at 50% off from some outlets.

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

again we are getting the “one hundred different cases”, none of which will apply to any of us !

I cannot recommend strongly enough to find out from YB friends what the recent process was like in your Tessaban, before deciding whether to proceed, with or without Agent. 

 

With hindsight I would have gladly paid an Agent 10-20k baht.Interestingly, neither my involved Land Owner nor Tessaban Civil Boss, who had earlier cooperated to reissue my blue book, ever offered the YB Agent option……and it never occurred to me , just as using a DLT Agent would never have occurred to me either….. at the time.

 

I described my case here as possibly it was the very worst & miserable yet successful YB experience ever. Especially, when combined with my also-described earlier Blue Book bad story. 

 

Problem is, without prior specific knowledge, you just dont know how easy / difficult it is until you have begun the process. Then, because it all seems so reasonable from the List given, you don’t feel like getting an Agent. Later, after I quickly produced the routine listed documents, the non- listed bs started…….

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

“My missus says there is no difference between the 2 books other than the colour.”

 

Correct. Did a quick cross check after receiving YB. Format/ Data Fields are Identical

[bbko]

28 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

My missus says there is no difference between the 2 books other than the colour.

That may be true physically, but there's a huge difference when it comes to it's uses.

[transam]

46 minutes ago, bbko said:

That may be true physically, but there's a huge difference when it comes to it's uses.

Yes, a bit like a cars VIN code. I was told I didn't have the "golden" digit for the cheap hospital card.

But, at a gov hozzy, they were very happy to look in my yellow book, I had cataracts done for 18k each, including overnight stay and doctor's appointments. I do know that Thai folk were being charged too, how much, I do not know...

[IvorBiggun2]

8 minutes ago, transam said:

. I do know that Thai folk were being charged too

They will have if it was a government one that they are not registered at. 

Edited October 29, 2021 by IvorBiggun2

[transam]

9 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

They will have if it was a government one that they are not registered at. 

Same as me, it was an Army hozzy, no local gov hozzy's did the procedures..????

[LivinLOS]

On 10/28/2021 at 8:13 PM, Fairynuff said:

And yet my ID still reaps rewards, sorry you’re not so lucky. Incidentally I’ve used my ID where a DL wasn’t acceptable 

Where exactly ?? 

Because a Pink ID has been turned down at every national park I tried it at since about 2015. I have one, its just been useless to me. 

 

[LivinLOS]

On 10/27/2021 at 9:32 AM, richard_smith237 said:

Experience on this varies and has been debated at length on this forum. 

 

Some have found the Yellow Book (and Pink ID) useful, others have not. 

 

Personal experience:  

1) Useful when popping into a Bank ( I don’t carry my Passport with me all the time, Bank does not accept DL)

2) Can open a Bank Account with Yellow Book

3) Pink ID is useful IF needing to prove ID anywhere  (where a DL may not be accepted)

4) Avoids dual Pricing at ‘most places’ (where a DL doesn’t cut it)

5) Useful to register on Mor Prom (vaccines - its actually possible to secure a number without the Yellow Tabien Baan). 

6) Easy renewal of Driving Licences without having to get expensive Embassy issued Affirmation of Address document (never in Thailand longer than 90 days so can’t get Proof of address from Immigration) 

*Note: Oddly enough, Some DLT’s do not accept the Yellow Book as proof of address (which is extremely odd as its the ‘ultimate proof of address’ in Thailand !!!).

 

From a personal perspective I have found the Yellow Tabien Baan and carrying the Pink ID to be useful but not essential. 

 

 

I have both Pink ID (from previous address) and had a yellow house book but dont at this address.. I agree the yellow house book did help for land transport office, thought thats about the only thing. 

1) Never had any bank (siam commercial, bangkok, Kasikorn) ever not accept a Thai DL as ID.
2) Opened all the above without either.
3) Never had a pink ID accepted when a Thai DL wasnt (love to know where) ??
4) Again, never found a Pink ID any more use than a DL (and thats not much.. No Nat parks any longer etc). 
5) I heard this, but we live in a province where farangs got front of the queue access over Thais, so waiting on the Mor Phrom queue would have been a delay. 
6) Immigration here gives anyone even a 30 day exempt a residence paper but yes, this is where a yellow book helps.
 

For me, The yellow book had value, the Pink ID has none.. I carry it, and do constantly look for places it may help, and never find them.. Present a Thai DL, if thats not taken, presenting the Pink ID after has literally never worked. Back pre (??) 2015 or so either a Thai DL or a Pink ID card tended to work at Nat parks, now neither do. 

[Fairynuff]

1 hour ago, LivinLOS said:

Where exactly ?? 

Because a Pink ID has been turned down at every national park I tried it at since about 2015. I have one, its just been useless to me. 

 

You used the haha emoji on my post, why would I bother telling you? You wouldn’t believe me anyway

[LivinLOS]

On 11/2/2021 at 10:40 AM, Fairynuff said:

You used the haha emoji on my post, why would I bother telling you? You wouldn’t believe me anyway

ohh arent you precious.. ????

 

So you cant come up with any either.. Thats what I figured.. 

[Fairynuff]

8 hours ago, LivinLOS said:

ohh arent you precious.. ????

 

So you cant come up with any either.. Thats what I figured.. 

like I said. Why would I bother. Which bit of that aren’t you getting?

[LivinLOS]

Because you made a dubious claim.. And now dont or wont provide a single example of that claim.. 

Therefore its easy for everyone to see.. Its a bogus claim. 

In all the years I have had one.. The pink ID has never done anything my Thai driving license didnt do. The queue for vaccines was going to be a first, but then then didnt happen either. 

Yellow book on the other hand, was sometimes useful, primarily at the land transport office. 

[gamb00ler]

Our house has just been finished.  Asked the local builder if they would find out the details for getting a yellow book for me.

 

List of documents that Hang Dong asked for:

1. translated marriage certificate

2. copy of wife's Thai ID

3. blue book with wife's name in it

4. passport copies of photo and main page

5. translation of passport

6. copy of extension stamp in passport

7. residence certificate

8. copy of construction permit

9. copy of chanote

[IvorBiggun2]

12 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

• copy of construction permit

• copy of chanote

Why ?

[gamb00ler]

16 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

Our house has just been finished.  Asked the local builder if they would find out the details for getting a yellow book for me.

 

List of documents that Hang Dong asked for:

 

1. copy of construction permit

2. copy of chanote

 

4 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Why ?

The perennial question when encountering the Thai bureaucracy.

 

[IvorBiggun2]

3 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

The perennial question when encountering the Thai bureaucracy.

 

Yeah I forgot?

[john donson]

On 10/27/2021 at 3:27 PM, richard_smith237 said:

Enquire at your local Amphur Office - they may say ‘cannot’ which seems to be a go-to response for some as the processing of the Yellow Tabien Baan involves quite a lot of leg work by the Amphur officer. 

That said, others have been dealt with quickly - its just luck of the draw.

If you face the ‘cannot’ just push it a little, they can, they all can (just make sure you are at the correct Amphur Office for your Condo). 

 

Requirements vary but usually involve: 

 

1) Embassy Certified copy of your passport

2) Translation of the Embassy Certified copy of your passport

3) MFA Verified Translation of the Embassy Certified copy of your passport

4) Ownership titles (Blue book) and other proof of ownership

5) 2x Thai Witnesses

6) Proof of Visa status 

 

 

 

in what a crazy red tape world we live in, when a passport, delivered by your embassy

with chip and fingerprints, is not a valid document, where you can travel all around the world with,

but pitty little amphur needs a photocopy paper, certified (pay embassy), translated (pay agency), mfa verified (pay government)...

 

same goes other way... my thai divorce papers kor ror 6 and 7 need MFA, translation appointed by embassy and legalization by embassy... they all pass the KAJIEN $$$$$$ machine....  as if my embassy did not employ thai people who can read and write... thai  ... and if I would come to my embassy as a joke, with forged papers, that I am divorced...