4 hours ago, SooKee said:

So thrilled that they booked to go somewhere else ????

Having been involved in sales and marketing for most of my life, including being involved in the tourism and entertainment industry, my opinion is that Thailand will probably "dodge a bullet." 

 

This is mostly due to the little being done by alternative East Asian destinations to stick the knife into Thailand and own a portion of the market.  Most marketers will tell you down times are 

 

This means that for all the governments ill considered, illogical, spur of the moment decisions and hidden agendas, they will probably not fair too badly.

 

If you did an analysis of all alternative destinations they can still not measure up to the default attributes or "unique selling points" of Thailand, as an affordable tropical paradise.

 

Singapore is trying but has limited natural resources and is expensive by comparison to the rest of Asia. The other Asean countries such as Vietnam, Cambodia, Philippines, Laos, Malaysia, Indonesia (including Bali), are just not taking the ball up! Lack of infrastructure, difficulty of entry, lack of planning, and so on are making things difficult. 

 

Brunei has no alcohol or LBGT as a general concept. Myanmar has installed sights on all its pistols so it can continue to accurately shoot it self in the foot, and Southern China especially (Hainan) seems to have no plans to take a large chunk of the Chinese tourists who will return eventually to Thailand.

 

Relatively inexpensive, exotic and beautiful, Thailand, despite the authorities actions, will quickly (in relative terms) return to be the "Jewel in the Crown" for holiday makers in Asia, with or without booze and hookers.

 

Will the powers that be assist or accelerate that situation, I imagine in the main, only if it is in their own personal interests, however I am sure they will take the credit if my prediction is correct.

No, this tool doesn't want to admit it IS necessary to open! He's not preventing anything because it is all happening anyways, just not in establishments where business owners as well as wholesalers and delivery people and service workers can make a living. Sinking in yet? He has nothing to praise himself for as his administration made an absolute mess of this wave. 

4 hours ago, Walker88 said:

I saw a tourist who seemed to be thrilled. He wasn't at the airport, however. He was walking down the street holding hands with a Thai woman who looked to be 30-40 years his junior.

 

Funny what sort of things make people thrilled. For some, according to the PM, it's more machines at the airport that 'save their valuable time'. For others, it's the chance to engage in the biological imperative for just a token fee.

With just a little hustle - but no hassle!

The man in charge says bars and clubs must stay shut! well how come in some places they are open already like Nana soi 4, khaosan rd, Bangla rd Phuket and Buriram!! One rule for $$ and one rule for the other!!

"Not enough protocols in place" so it's their fault.

There's more to life on holiday than booze in bars and what the pimps have on offer surely? Does the country really want to risk more infections just to cater for those sorts of visitors, I think not.

...and in tomorrow's exciting espisode of the Thai Muppet Show, starring Prayut Chan O-Cha, he'll explain why enjoying yourself is a very bad habit and must be eliminated in order to build a more harmonious society. The Swedish chef will show us how to make meatballs with som tam sauce, and Miss Piggy gets a dose of bird flu and has to be slaughtered and sold at the local market before anyone finds out.

 

5 hours ago, smedly said:

One can only laugh at this

 

what was the predicted number for Nov - I recall it was over 1m, official number is 50k so far and likely many of those are not actually tourists

 

delusional nonsense 

I'm still thinking even 50K is BS!

6 hours ago, webfact said:

He claimed that tourists were thrilled with these measures instigated by him.

BS - fake news????????? (Czar - evidence please)

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I'll be giving Thailand a miss for the next 15 months, and millions of others will too. 

29 minutes ago, clivebaxter said:

There's more to life on holiday than booze in bars and what the pimps have on offer surely? Does the country really want to risk more infections just to cater for those sorts of visitors, I think not.

The Thai economy and the people and businesses associated with it need it.

6 hours ago, webfact said:

The PM said that there were not enough protocols in place to allow such venues to reopen next month.

What protocols??

 

Praise must go to the Cambodian Government which took a positive forward decision to allow alcohol to be served at restaurants and beer gardens without time restrictions from the 1st November 2021. From the 30th November 2021 beer bars, pubs, nightclubs, karaoke and KTV lounges will be allowed to sell alcohol, also with no time restrictions. 

 

"Authorities are set to lift restrictions on some “high-risk” businesses after November 30, including nightlife entertainment venues that rely heavily on alcohol sales such as KTV/karaoke parlours, nightclubs and bars, which have all been closed longer than other establishments"

https://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/pm-entertainment-venues-allowed-reopen-dec-1

 

Thailand, you have my sympathy and I am so lucky I was able to escape just as the borders were closing.

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Another self-important statement from someone who has no clue how people feel, how they are surviving, or what they are thinking. AND to think he can second guess what he thinks the tourists are thinking is just beyond belief. Go out and enjoy Loy Krathong in your thousands said he and no worries about Covid, its taking the day off...clown.

 

Perhaps take a leaf out of Austria's book. Open places to double vaccinated who are being penalised and lockdown those that refuse to get them. Oh wait a minute, still not enough to go round and was his fault right from day one. Will be interested to see how this pans out in UK and Europe with the Vaccinated V Un-vaccinated and who and where the different groups will be allowed to go... Personally and possibly selfishly, after having 2 + booster, I feel  I am be restricted and penalised  simply because the major amount of infections come from those not vaccinated which is bourn out by all statistics keeping this pandemic alive and well for the foreseeable future with higher risks of more mutated strains and variants putting everyone at risk all over again... I know a lot of you out there will disagree but wonder how many of those haven't had the vaccinations.....

6 hours ago, darksidedog said:

Is it any wonder that things are in such disarray when you have an egocentric moron, dislocating his shoulder to pat himself on the back, when in truth all he has brought about is disaster?

His critics were less kind… ???? 

6 hours ago, webfact said:

He claimed that tourists were thrilled with these measures instigated by him.

I would be thrilled if he would stop breathing. 

6 hours ago, webfact said:

The PM said that there were not enough protocols in place to allow such venues to reopen next month.

Garbage,

There is and has been an agenda against alcohol for a while now. To what end I cannot say but there's definitely an agenda. 

6 hours ago, Gsxrnz said:

I wonder what his end game is.  He obviously has one

Dominance.

 

4 hours ago, pagallim said:

I can only think that mid January will be the most likely time when 70% of the whole population will have been vaccinated, and that's being used as the parameter for 'normality'.   Still doesn't make sense though, when the provinces that are 'open', and Bangkok in particular, have higher daily new infection rates than some of the 'closed' provinces.

By which time all those who were going to take a sunshine break holiday will have taken it and many others will be trying to cover their credit card bills from Christmas so there won't be many people left able to take a holiday!

18 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

There is and has been an agenda against alcohol for a while now. To what end I cannot say but there's definitely an agenda. 

I think I'll move to Iran, no bars (just like here) but at least in Iran, as a foreigner and non muslim, you can brew your own, unlike here.

6 hours ago, smedly said:

One can only laugh at this

 

what was the predicted number for Nov - I recall it was over 1m, official number is 50k so far and likely many of those are not actually tourists

 

delusional nonsense 

Figures can be made to look good,Brains Trust don't mention that they include the multiple QR Codes that  Thailand Pass applicants have received because of their dodgy App to push the numbers up.

He is full of. S. Hot nothing to do with Covid anymore. It all about to show everyone that is the power in LOS and that he will not allow anyone to tell him what and how to do.

6 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Most would be more thrilled with a STD and that's all about what's on offer due to this clown ????

I have no problem  with the bars and clubs no being unable to sell beer . My life is not controlling by a drink of beer. 

3 hours ago, RafPinto said:

It's just how much you pay.

 

Walked yesterday to soi 4.

The 2 or 3 bars on the left site were well visited. Mostly farang and I didn't see a single one having something to eat.

They were sitting and having drinks out of bottles. Not using any mugs.

What time did you call the authorities to grass them off?

7 hours ago, webfact said:

 

“Online forums are full of people saying that while such draconian measures exist they will not come to Thailand and perhaps seek elsewhere for their holidays.”

that’s why Aussies are absent from the list. Plenty of better places to go!

6 hours ago, Gsxrnz said:

It will all make sense when his end game becomes apparent. Maybe he's just negotiating through surrogates to buy the lock stock and barrel freehold to Phuket, Samui, and Walking street and this is his big hammer negotiating tool.

Or maybe he is doing it for people he knows who want to buy cheap and redevelop?  Although I doubt that Evergrande are in a buying mood.

I thank goodness that I quit drinking 3 years ago...

But if I was still the lounge lizard I used to be I would be FURIOUS!!! ???? ????????

7 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Most would be more thrilled with a STD and that's all about what's on offer due to this clown ????

Silly Tourist Destination??

I expect the bars will be policed as efficiently as they are on the super highways and byways of the land. If in doubt bring a bottle!