The billionaires will come by caravan of camels across Mongolia, friends they will come, it is promised.

We will recover by 2025 - tourism  Industry remain a challenge - all no name hotels either will close / convert to rental or 7/11. Tough times ahead. Best way to fly imo is via Europe as you get longest time in the plane to rest at least at night. Day time ok via Middle East. 2x6-6.5 hours 

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

So you do not have your own airline anymore ?....., any other international flying one ? ????

Ryan Air flies the flag.....

5 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

A bit more difficult now for the uber-rich British tourists to get here.

Which airline will be the next one to cancel?

Any other ideas TAT?

Only direct flights have been cancelled, they offer alternatives.

5 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

A bit more difficult now for the uber-rich British tourists to get here.

Which airline will be the next one to cancel?

Any other ideas TAT?

Nothing whatsoever to do with TAT.

BA haven't really cancelled anything, they have just re-routed and the OP is nothing more than a tidying up exercise. Passengers can change their flight or get a refund.

Qatar is in the same group as BA and they helped out BA during the strike with aircraft and crew.

BA has been flying to BKK via Qatar for some time and with climate change coming into the equation I would be surprised if they ever go back to direct flights.

Rationalising costs will be the name of the game going forward.

 

There was item on the BBC news last week about the booster jabs, the woman doing the needle work was BA cabin crew, Boris's contribution to the national airline.

5 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Ryan Air flies the flag.....

So now you have to rely on the Irish ...?   oh good ....so better start being nice finally to them...????

1 hour ago, Oracle2022 said:

The UK is very highly vaccinated and all with AZ and Pfizer and Moderna.

 

No Sinorubbish.

 

If Omicron is generating lots of cases in the UK - then in Sinovaccine Thailand its going to be twice as bad at least........prepare now.

Nonsense, it spreads like crazy in the UK because a lot of people refuse to wear masks. 

It doesn't spread quickly here at all.

Smart, pretty sure Thailand is only letting in private jets these days. Genius move to keep out the riff-raff.

45 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Was in Qatar where the Qatarians only trusted BA helicopter engineers to do the service and maintenance on there helicopters.

Not just BA that is tied up with Qatar.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-qatar-expand-defence-partnership

7 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Nothing whatsoever to do with TAT.

BA haven't really cancelled anything, they have just re-routed and the OP is nothing more than a tidying up exercise. Passengers can change their flight or get a refund.

Qatar is in the same group as BA and they helped out BA during the strike with aircraft and crew.

BA has been flying to BKK via Qatar for some time and with climate change coming into the equation I would be surprised if they ever go back to direct flights.

Rationalising costs will be the name of the game going forward.

 

There was item on the BBC news last week about the booster jabs, the woman doing the needle work was BA cabin crew, Boris's contribution to the national airline.

Boris actually contributes to something other than his own pocket????

Gee , those 6 million Poms that  the Thais said were going to come here will be disappointed.

6 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

They must have taken a long hard look at the prospects for any resurgence in tourism here...

More to do with being unable to compete in the long-haul, non-stop sector when the mid-east carriers can easily overfill their flights to Bangkok, Phuket and OTHER FAR EAST DESTINATIONS with their feeder flights from Africa, Europe, Lat Am and even the US west coast. No doubt BA's ongoing, busy code share with Qatar is working just fine.

 

It's not all about Thailand's shattered tourist dreams no matter how much most people here seem to want things to be.

Edited December 18, 20214 yr by NanLaew

5 hours ago, Gsxrnz said:

Eventually the reduced international travel will result in the near collapse of the airline industry and you'll be able to pick up a slightly used Boeing 777 for the price of a caravan.

Caravans are going through the roof in price now due to people not flying anywhere. 

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I would argue a book with confidence program involve no risk of flight cancellation. 
 

Hope they don’t take ‘months’ to refund like all other carriers have during Covid. 
 

An airline which does this looses loyalty as future confidence in the carrier wanes. 
 

Meanwhile other carriers offer reliable solutions (i.e. Finn / Emirates/ Qatar), not direct, but reliable. 

 

Does this also mean the UK thinks Thailand is going to remove it from the Covid green list ??? 

Finnair gave us our refund in 5 days for this year's cancellation. 

 

Last year's from Thai Air took nearly a year.  And that was only after I got it back through credit card charge back when they weren't responding to me.  

6 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

They must have taken a long hard look at the prospects for any resurgence in tourism here...

If you read the entire post, it seems that this is just part of a massive flight cutting programme by BA that's not limited to flights between the UK and Thailand.

 

A lot of Etihad's flights around Christmas time for example are sold out, I don't think you can base your predictions on one airline.

Edited December 18, 20214 yr by KhaoYai

Another nail in the TAT coffin. They can open up and dream of rich tourists - but nobody will come. End of.

3 minutes ago, englishinsiam said:

Caravans are going through the roof in price now due to people not flying anywhere. 

And second hand cars are now being seen as an appreciating asset.

1 hour ago, TorquayFan said:

With BA an old plane and entertainment system but if you were close to the Galley, an ongoing feast of snacks was available ! Disap

My family were coming in on 280's is that an old plane.??????

7 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

They must have taken a long hard look at the prospects for any resurgence in tourism here...

No point flying empty.

That BA run to Thailand has gone down over the years, but it was direct and had decent departure times. They will see that Thai tourism is going nowhere at the moment. Another wake up call for the junta, not that they’d care less. 

Throughout the pandemic so far, KLM has been flying daily.  Cargo has kept this going but now passengers too.  When I flew from AMS on 14 November the economy class was 98% full.  I am confident they will keep flying, no reason to stop.

 

6 hours ago, robblok said:

Best of British fails the Brits

Lol, British Airways is an old and somewhat crappy airline, many people gave up flying with them a decade ago.

 

Whenever I previously flew I preferred KLM or Lufthansa with a transit stop in either Amsterdam or Frankfurt but routing changes at Lufthansa and the KLM Air France merger really messed with the schedules which didn't suit me.

 

I haven't been back since.

 

Edited December 18, 20214 yr by ukrules

7 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

A bit more difficult now for the uber-rich British tourists to get here.

Which airline will be the next one to cancel?

Any other ideas TAT?

I bet a lot of airlines are very carefully planning their 2022 programme... they won't be coming to Bangkok empty, that's for sure.

5 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

No point flying empty.

I actually wonder whether BA could have negotiated a 1 arrival per week deal with the BKK airport. I'm pretty sure they could fill most of the plane once a week and it would also keep the plane in at least some running condition. They must have hundreds of planes that could do with some long haul testing after a year. 

how do brits get around if no airline is in britain .  stowaway on ryan air

6 hours ago, Johnny Mac said:

Just as well nobody uses them. Awful airline.

Never ever used them. Never will. Always better deals and similar service for less elsewhere!!! ????????????????

I used them a few times but prefer EVA. 

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

If people actually take the time to look at numbers they will see that whilst the UK posted a record 93,000 positives on Friday - probably due to extreme rising in testing never seen in other countries - it has been conveniently left out by the doom-mongering news outlets the fact that the deaths from related covid was the lowest on a Friday for EIGHTEEN WEEKS. 

 

UK Friday deaths

17/12 = 111

10/12 = 120

3/13 = 143

26/11 = 160

19/11 = 157

12/11 = 145

5/11 = 193

29/10 - 186

22/10 - 180

15/10 = 145

8/10 = 146

1/10 =127

24/9 = 180

17/9 = 178

10/9 = 147

3/9 = 121

27/8 = 133

20/8 = 114

 

 

Exactly. I've said this time and time again...

 

9 minutes ago, ukrules said:

Lol, British Airways is an old and somewhat crappy airline, many people gave up flying with them a decade ago.

 

Whenever I previously flew I preferred KLM or Lufthansa with a transit stop in either Amsterdam or Frankfurt but routing changes at Lufthansa and the KLM Air France merger really messed with the schedules which didn't suit me.

 

I haven't been back since.

 

I made the mistake, heard it was Spanish owned. I usually fly with EVA, not sure if i ever used KLM. 

 

But really I don't care what country an airline is from just about price and safety. I mean if some Russian company would offer cheap flights i might not go (depending on safety record). Nationalism is nothing to me. Price and safety are.  (and of course shedule and availability)

27 minutes ago, ukrules said:

Lol, British Airways is an old and somewhat crappy airline, many people gave up flying with them a decade ago.

 

Whenever I previously flew I preferred KLM or Lufthansa with a transit stop in either Amsterdam or Frankfurt but routing changes at Lufthansa and the KLM Air France merger really messed with the schedules which didn't suit me.

 

I haven't been back since.

 

The problem is (like any company) is that they have lost their reputation.

 

It used to a privledge, sort of, flying with BA back in the 70's and 80's but they never kept up with the times nor did they attract the younger crowd who ended up on package holidays in Ibiza . Easyjet gave them a broken and bloody nose which they never really recovered from.

 

But I have to say, flying on BA was much more preferable to flying on KLM - I heard they still use reclining seats on biz. long haul, maybe I'm wrong.

 

 

Edited December 18, 20214 yr by Chelseafan

19 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

That BA run to Thailand has gone down over the years, but it was direct and had decent departure times. They will see that Thai tourism is going nowhere at the moment. Another wake up call for the junta, not that they’d care less. 

Just an aside, I flew on the last BA 747 back to London years ago. What a plane that was...