transam Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, TheScience said: Whatever. Your method has / is in place and it's clearly not working. Fines will never, ever change behavior. You are thinking like a dinosaur. Thailand has had fines since forever. Even the cops have no regard for traffic law. LOS have NEVER had suitable fines, in fact last year they reduced some.....???? You may think I am a dinosaur, but at least l have an idea regarding LOS folk thought.???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScience Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said: do you really think a lowly policeman is going to lock up the driver of a Benz S500 True and no. That's why they need a special elite traffic force. I'm dead serious. Give them a grounding in traffic law and pay them well. Moreover, if they are found to be corrupt let hell rain down upon them Singapore did it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, TheScience said: True and no. That's why they need a special elite traffic force. I'm dead serious. Give them a grounding in traffic law and pay them well. Moreover, if they are found to be corrupt let hell rain down upon them Singapore did it. Hey, the police take care of underage kids on motorcyles to get into their school gates...???? Special Elite Force......???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyboy Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 hours ago, smedly said: laws have to make sense, there should be no need to touch a phone when driving - calls only hands free with integrated BT, surfing Facebook or messaging is very obviously problematic i use my phone as a gps..google maps ect ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliveshep Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 It's still LOS, but these days of Covid lockdowns and deprivation and runaway inflation coupled with Government deceit causing massive reduction in available pork ribs for Bar-B-Q's and those only available at double the price LOS stands for Land of Scowls. While having a moan, just finally getting over chronic and acute diarrhea with severe cramps that lasted over a month and which, had Anutin not banned Disento "for our own good as it had antibiotics we were abusing", would only have lasted a day or so! Alternatives proving, like the Government, to be totally ineffective. Back on topic - surprised no one is talking about banning Tom Tom and Garmin GPS units with their visible mapping displays and audio messages which, certainly in parts of BKK's ultra confusing traffic layouts require extreme concentration to follow. What about those cell-phone mapping apps? My wife uses them a lot, phone on her lap giving directions in Thai, at least my TomTom is stuck to the screen in front of me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Long time coming but just as well ban the adjustment of any system. Messing with aircon and radios would have caused many deaths over the years. Driving without due care and attention, eh what! Swinging Buddha amulets all good though. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, placeholder said: Drivers who think hands-free devices for talking or texting How does one TEXT hands-free please? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Surely this will lead to mass unemployment, there won't be a single Grab or Panda driver on the road. What a terrible shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetryxx Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Hello, they can’t even enforce a simple helmet law. Food delivery madmen zoom around heeding no traffic laws whatsoever, throttle in one hand, phone in the other. Get real, this will never be enforced unless a cop sees a farang doing so and smells money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 44 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: and actually get out there, patrol and pull vehicles over for infractions Can police see someone using their phone at 90 kph through the darkened windows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, KannikaP said: Can police see someone using their phone at 90 kph through the darkened windows? If I can, they can. I see drivers all the time at lights using their phone. I drive or ride past cars and see other drivers using their phones in their car while driving. I see motorcyclists using their phone while riding one handed. Whenever on the roads we all see other drivers and riders using their phone while driving / riding. If we see it, so do the police. The issue is that the Police are lazy with the juvenile minds of a children, they don’t really want to deal with the conflict of stopping drivers for an infraction neither they nor the driver considers serious (this is where education comes into it)... Patrolling takes effort, dealing with conflict and pulling over drivers takes effort.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhill93794 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I normally don’t respond to many of these topics I read but this one topic almost gave me a heart attack from laughter. I do apologize as I know using any type of media device in your hand while driving is an accident waiting to happen. The wife is a scary driver as it is but once the phone is in her hand all bets are off. I honestly don’t believe it is possible to change the current situation with cell phones unless there is some radical changes to law enforcement, as it stands there is a very little if any enforcement of drivers following the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeb Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Geoffggi said: This has to be fake news, it is hard to spot anyone driving cars or riding bikes who is not on the phone these days .......................LOL You can't spot them anyway because they all have their windows blacked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave moir Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Moonlover said: This is called 'distracted driving' and has been shown to be just as dangerous as using a handheld set. The driver's mind should be 100% on the task of driving. I agree with @userabcd, their use should be banned altogether. So if you have passengers in the car they shouldn't be allowed to talk either as it's a distraction!???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 "Thais warned! You can't use your phone while driving even when stopped in traffic or at the lights" I'm a farang so does that mean the rules don't apply to me? ???? Or does it mean that they haven't quite worked out how much the fines will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Joeb said: You can't spot them anyway because they all have their windows blacked out. Well in many cases they easily be spotted... Additionally.... when the windows are too dark, thats another infraction - so the drivers need to be pulled up for breaking that law. How many motorcyclists and pedestrians are killed each year because the ‘tint’ is too dark and the driver failed to see the victims ? Edited January 26, 2022 by richard_smith237 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asquith Production Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Enzian said: We were doing estate planning and my daughter-in-law said that if my son dies before me the reason will be his constant habit of texting while driving. As if taking or making a phone call isnt bad enough texting is next level dangerous. People have to look at the phones screen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Joeb said: You can't spot them anyway because they all have their windows blacked out. richard_smith237 can see them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capella Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: In my Benz the engine turns off automatically whenever I stop the vehicle to save on emissions. Does this mean I can still play with my phone? I hate that feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: In my Benz the engine turns off automatically whenever I stop the vehicle to save on emissions. Does this mean I can still play with my phone? Only if the chauffeur says you can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Ralf001 said: In one of my cars I installed a 10" Samsung Tablet as the entertainment head unit. What phone ? !! I got a 55" screen in mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I wouldn't do it but no enforcement anyway. So why would someone care? I've never seen a police car on patrol duty, not to mention the illegal dark tinted windows making it impossible to look inside your vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, KannikaP said: Rubbish. mine is Bluetoothed to the radio, answers automatically, no hands needed. It's probably more dangerous/distracting following Google Maps than having a phone conversation. Hands on or off is not what causes accidents. Driver included phone conversations in cars are the real problem. See if you can work out why by comparing their random structure, about anything and with anyone, and its potential for dangerous loss of concentration, with conversations which are virtually pre-programmed, in aircraft, about the activity of flying the aircraft, between pilots and the only agency they are likely to be talking to beyond the cockpit......ATC. Do not try to do it while you are driving. Edited January 26, 2022 by Enoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 51 minutes ago, Harveyboy said: i use my phone as a gps..google maps ect ? and ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Baiting flame and reply has been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) It makes sense to stop people holding their phones, looking for texts or phone numbers. Most modern cars allow phones to give directions without touching the phone itself. A button on the steering wheel answers calls. Usually I just say I am driving and will call back. People do understand. Edited January 26, 2022 by Purdey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: In my Benz the engine turns off automatically whenever I stop the vehicle to save on emissions. Does this mean I can still play with my phone? No it means you need to learn to hit the auto stop button and deactivate that scourge of modern technology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecyclist Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 They can pass any law they want in the land of scofflaws, it's not gonna make a significant impact, if any at all. I remember when they passed the 'only hands free' calls allowed law, I had a feeling that not fewer but more motorists had their phones in their hands. Probably only because I was paying more attention, but in definitely didn't make a noticeable difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, Enoon said: Driver included phone conversations in cars are the real problem. So keep your gob shut. Don't join in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacherofwoe Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 If you see someone using their phone in a car, take a picture of them with your phone from your car. See if you can claim a reward. Better still, see if you can claim two rewards. Should cover the cost of your fine and be in profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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