Brake Light Won't Go Off

[Pattaya Spotter]

Vehicle:2014 Honda Accord, 2.4L Automatic

 

As in the description, when I came home from an outing this afternoon and parked the car, I happened to notice both the center and left/right red rear brake lights were on after the vehicled was turned off and locked. I powered up/down the vehicle several times, depressing and releasing the brake pedal several times but to no avail. After each time the brake lights remained on when the vehicle was in park and turned off. Finally, I had to remove the battery cable so as not to have a dead battery in the morning. Any ideas as to what is the problem? I plan to re-connect the battery and drive it to a shop in the morning.

[Lacessit]

Stuck switch or relay, probably the one activated by the brake pedal.

[SomchaiDIY]

If lights keep on when ignition system not active possible control module fault

Many modern car use body control module to switch brake light circuit
 

If module problem remove fuse for light circuit until repair possible

[CharlieH]

10 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Stuck switch or relay, probably the one activated by the brake pedal.

This pressure switch at the rear of  brake pedal would be my first inspection point.

 

[blackcab]

I had this with a Honda CRV. It turned out to be the switch attached to the brake pedal.

 

What I did find out though, was that when you remove the fuse that controls the brake lights (so the battery didn't go flat), the car wouldn't start and you couldn't engage the gear selector.

[Pattaya Spotter]

20 minutes ago, SomchaiDIY said:

If module problem remove fuse for light circuit until repair possible

I did pull the engine fuse box cover (with fuse map inside) and tried pulling fuses that seemed to relate to the light circuits to no avail...but probably just not the right one).

[2long]

It's REALLY common on Hondas. There's a little rubber bung under the pedal. I went to my main dealer and they charged me 54B and fitted it for free. Yes, 54B!! ????????????????????

[KhaoYai]

The brake lights on many Japanese cars work without the ignition being turned on - whereas with most European cars, the ignition has to be on for them to work.

 

Your problem is almost certainly the brake light switch at the top of the pedal. Cheap and easy to fix.

[Pattaya Spotter]

13 minutes ago, 2long said:

It's REALLY common on Hondas. There's a little rubber bung under the pedal. I went to my main dealer and they charged me 54B and fitted it for free. Yes, 54B!! ????????????????????

Something like this I imagine...

 

 

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Edited February 24, 2022 by Pattaya Spotter

[SomchaiDIY]

35 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

I did pull the engine fuse box cover (with fuse map inside) and tried pulling fuses that seemed to relate to the light circuits to no avail...but probably just not the right one).

Not sure how honda handle brake switch when ignition off

As mentioned already some allow brake light when ignition control is off

As mentioned already remove brake circuit fuse can disable transmission control

Maybe lucky and only simple switch but always prepare for other problem in modern car electronics

[bbko]

 

[wprime]

Have you tried taking your foot off the brake?

[Pattaya Spotter]

2 hours ago, wprime said:

Have you tried taking your foot off the brake?

That was the first thing I tried...didn't work ????

[Pattaya Spotter]

2 hours ago, wprime said:

Have you tried taking your foot off the brake?

That was the first thing I tried...didn't work ????

[Pattaya Spotter]

Thanks for the feedback...it's the plastic bolt connection between the brake pedal arm and the brake light controller disintegrated (pieces of broken plastic found on the floor mat). A common issue with Hondas as they age...the plastic gets brittle and falls apart. At the Honda dealer now...a 130 baht part and free install.

 

 

 

Edited February 25, 2022 by Pattaya Spotter

[2long]

16 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

130 baht part

Goddam inflation! ????????????????????????????????

[CharlieH]

26 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Thanks for the feedback...it's the plastic bolt connection between the brake pedal arm and the brake light controller disintegrated (pieces of broken plastic found on the floor mat). A common issue with Hondas as they age...the plastic gets brittle and falls apart. At the Honda dealer now...a 130 baht part and free install.

 

 

 

Like to see someone get that for $4 or £3 at Honda dealership and FREE install in the West !????

[Pattaya Spotter]

7 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Like to see someone get that for $4 or £3 at Honda dealership and FREE install in the West !????

I know right...in and out in 20 minutes!

 

It's called a "pedal stopper" (Part# 46505-SA5-000). Actually the part was 70 baht and the labour (install) was 51.50 baht ????

 

[wprime]

1 hour ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

That was the first thing I tried...didn't work ????

The only other thing I can think of is maybe they're your fog lights, check the fog light switch. I see a lot of local drivers leave their fog lights on by mistake.

 

[stigar]

I been working before as a car elecrition for many years.Its only one way the brakeligths can be "hanged up"like you mention.Its via the switch under ur brake pedal.