How easy is it to fall in love, real love, over 50?

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, LaosLover said:

Yes, and I'm saying that the barest prerequisite to late life love is a, breathing, warm body to try with.

 

Available for cheap in Pattaya and barely available at all and very expensive in Manhattan or Leeds.

It is just as cheap in Leeds and no problems with its availability .

Although they probably aren't going to want to move in with you  in Leeds or walk around the streets holding your hand 

[CG1 Blue]

35 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'm betting they would like to chase females, but just lack the opportunity.

So they take up gardening, or build little projects in the garden shed to help ease their pain.

 

Hell, when I discovered Thailand at age 52, I was banging twice a night.

Most single blokes I know around my age (52) in the UK are pretty depressed, either failing on dating sites, failing in bars or just giving up. 

Most of them wouldn't give Thailand a try because they're too brainwashed by the negative stereotyping of men who go to Thailand.

 

Up to you, as they say in LOS...????

[LaosLover]

It is just as cheap in Leeds

 

I wish I lived a life like you where I had my finger on the pulse of various shires sex worker prices.

 

Johns don't just want sex. They want access to female-ness. Up close.

 

That's a lot of Starbucks dead ends to endure in the west just to even get in the ballpark of. 

 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Most single blokes I know around my age (52) in the UK are pretty depressed, either failing on dating sites, failing in bars or just giving up. 

Most of them wouldn't give Thailand a try because they're too brainwashed by the negative stereotyping of men who go to Thailand.

 

Up to you, as they say in LOS...????

Just out of curiosity, how many single blokes in the UK around your age you actually know ?

  It could be that your friends back in the UK morally disagree with the principal of prostitution and thus have no interest in going to Pattaya ?

[1FinickyOne]

How easy is it to fall in love, real love, over 50?

 

for how long a period of time? 

 

love is fleeting or can be - it certainly changes, 

 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

7 minutes ago, LaosLover said:

It is just as cheap in Leeds

 

I wish I lived a life like you where I had my finger on the pulse of various shires sex worker prices.

 

Johns don't just want sex. They want access to female-ness. Up close.

 

That's a lot of Starbucks dead ends to endure in the west just to even get in the ballpark of. 

 

 

Its all done online these days , you can find a escort in any city in the World with a few searches on various sites .

  

[LaosLover]

There either are tons of romantic options for old Joe Blows outside of Girlfriend Experience or there aren't.

 

Plainly, there aren't. Google tells me that about 50% more older men want a relationship than older women. You don't get to be a hot prospect till north of 77.

 

I'm in a happy, still romantic, low libido relationship. At 69, I don't have a lot of company in that. 

 

 

[CG1 Blue]

44 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Just out of curiosity, how many single blokes in the UK around your age you actually know ?

  It could be that your friends back in the UK morally disagree with the principal of prostitution and thus have no interest in going to Pattaya ?

How many? I have a wide network of friends / friends of friends, so a lot. More than 10, less than a million. 

And most of them have dabbled with the local call out girls. £120 for an hour with someone looking at their watch every 2 minutes because they need to go to their next job. So no, I don't think they have moral issues. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

7 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

How many? I have a wide network of friends / friends of friends, so a lot. More than 10, less than a million. 

And most of them have dabbled with the local call out girls. £120 for an hour with someone looking at their watch every 2 minutes because they need to go to their next job. So no, I don't think they have moral issues. 

That's fair  enough, they paid for an hour and that's all they get .

Seems like they paid for an hour and were trying to get some extra minutes for free .

   Next time they need to book a 90 minute appointment and pay the extra fee .

  No one likes Cheap Charlies who want freebies 

[CG1 Blue]

38 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

That's fair  enough, they paid for an hour and that's all they get .

Seems like they paid for an hour and were trying to get some extra minutes for free .

   Next time they need to book a 90 minute appointment and pay the extra fee .

  No one likes Cheap Charlies who want freebies 

Haha, can't disagree with that. But what I mean is the clock watching starts as soon as they arrive. It's not the 'gf experience' they would get in LOS.  

But more on topic, they're much more likely to meet a long termer / love interest in Thailand. Or at least have a lot more fun looking. 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/24/2022 at 11:52 AM, LaosLover said:

Older, I am fussier and have more to lose. So that would def. limit my love options.

 

On their side of things, a lot of women have had terrible experiences with men and been wrung out from various caretaking burdens foisted on them. I can see why they're gun-shy too. 

 

But if they're not offering up sex or comfort in late age, they're going to find themselves in stiff competition with a winsome cocker spaniel for my interest.

 

Getting with a woman 30 years younger if you can make a reliable (there's the rub) security for affection deal makes a million times more sense. At least the parties involved are getting something that they want.

 

a lot of women have had terrible experiences with men

 

Given the number of attractive women ( and not attractive women ) that take up with scumbag men I ceased having sympathy for them on that long ago.

There are good men in the world, but they often get treated really badly by women that exploit their good nature.

I only had 2 partners in life and treated both as well as could be expected, but both exploited me till I left them.

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Just out of curiosity, how many single blokes in the UK around your age you actually know ?

  It could be that your friends back in the UK morally disagree with the principal of prostitution and thus have no interest in going to Pattaya ?

LOL. If the guys I knew when I was younger knew what Thailand was really like they'd give up local girls in a flash if they were wealthy enough to be able to afford it. However back then flying was so much more expensive, but much more fun than flying now. I miss Thailand, but not the farce of flying these days.

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

a lot of women have had terrible experiences with men

 

Given the number of attractive women ( and not attractive women ) that take up with scumbag men I ceased having sympathy for them on that long ago.

There are good men in the world, but they often get treated really badly by women that exploit their good nature.

I only had 2 partners in life and treated both as well as could be expected, but both exploited me till I left them.

I know loads of scumbags and really nice guys.

The scumbags get loads of female action, even though they beat and cheat on them.

The really nice guys are totally invisible to women ............. even though they have steady jobs, nice houses, savings and pensions.

 

It's totally inexplicable!

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL. If the guys I knew when I was younger knew what Thailand was really like they'd give up local girls in a flash if they were wealthy enough to be able to afford it. However back then flying was so much more expensive, but much more fun than flying now. I miss Thailand, but not the farce of flying these days.

If I knew then what I know now ..........

I'd have worked and been single in the UK, no dating, no cohabiting, no marrying.

But I would have had plenty of 'beach and temple' holidays in Asia.

I would have ended up happier, wealthier and with a million pound UK home.

[BritManToo]

11 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

That's fair  enough, they paid for an hour and that's all they get .

Seems like they paid for an hour and were trying to get some extra minutes for free .

   Next time they need to book a 90 minute appointment and pay the extra fee .

  No one likes Cheap Charlies who want freebies 

UK, normally you pay for an hour and they're trying to finish the job in 30 minutes.

So a friend has told me.

 

I remember the good old days in Thailand, where you paid for short-time, and they decided they liked your room, air-con and fridge so much more than their bug infested hovel, that they stayed all night, then went to breakfast with you next morning.

[billd766]

15 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

How easy is it to fall in love, real love, over 50?

 

for how long a period of time? 

 

love is fleeting or can be - it certainly changes, 

 

 

Well mine has been knocking along with 22 years of marriage to my Thai wife and about 7 years before that.

[actonion]

I've been Married 4 times,        I  guess i  just like wedding cake 

[Enoon]

14 minutes ago, actonion said:

I've been Married 4 times,        I  guess i  just like wedding cake 

 

You can buy one at a bakers.

 

You get to eat all of it and the rest of your life is your own.

 

 

 

[1FinickyOne]

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I know loads of scumbags and really nice guys.

The scumbags get loads of female action, even though they beat and cheat on them.

The really nice guys are totally invisible to women ............. even though they have steady jobs, nice houses, savings and pensions.

 

It's totally inexplicable!

typical bad boy appeal as well as opposites attract... many nice guys are in long term relationships, though often unhappily I think as they are chosen because they can be easily dominated... 

[GinBoy2]

Well 'love' is a slippery concept at any age.

 

It gets conflated with; affection, lust, sex, companionship, the list goes on.

 

Me and Mrs G are of a similar age, she's in her 50's and I'm in my 60's. Sometimes it's had to think that we met a quarter century ago, in was I have to say was the definitive tawdry office romance.

 

But here we are, we've both added a few pounds, she's a little grayer and I'm a little balder, but I still think she's the hottest babe on the planet and I'm still the same studly stud I was 20 odd years ago.

 

But we've settled in to that latter life love, comfortable with each other for all our mutual flaws, we've had our kids, all now adult, still have great sex, albeit not like the rabbits we once were!

 

But all that grows through time, and after 50, you know the road ahead is getting shorter, and I dunno if I'd be prepared to put in the leg work to get to that point anymore, whereas in younger relationships you do, whether it's for kids, passion, lust, great sex I don't know.

 

So I dunno, the human condition is complicated and what one person wants can be wildly different to what you want

 

 

[Bruno123]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL. If the guys I knew when I was younger knew what Thailand was really like they'd give up local girls in a flash if they were wealthy enough to be able to afford it. However back then flying was so much more expensive, but much more fun than flying now. I miss Thailand, but not the farce of flying these days.

Back when? My first flight to the region cost me £150 inclusive, for a 15 day duration. Another £70 if I wanted to extend it a week. BA Courier flight. There were always bargains for those who sought them out.

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I know loads of scumbags and really nice guys.

The scumbags get loads of female action, even though they beat and cheat on them.

The really nice guys are totally invisible to women ............. even though they have steady jobs, nice houses, savings and pensions.

 

It's totally inexplicable!

Actually it's totally explainable by genetics. Women are programmed to breed from type A men, and then find a type B man that will safely raise the child. Survival of the species and all that. Everything comes down to genetics in the end.

[LaosLover]

14 hours ago, Bruno123 said:

Back when? My first flight to the region cost me £150 inclusive, for a 15 day duration. Another £70 if I wanted to extend it a week. There were always bargains for those who sought them out.

BA Courier flight.

 

Anyone else take a courier flight back in the 90's? Never a super-deal from New York, but I did BKK roundtrip for $399. Did London for $49 RT once. Lima, Peru, $199. The problem was that you had to come back when they said so. So that London $49 was just for 3 nights.

 

Women are stuck unhappily in the same web of delusion as men. Both men and women seek to profit individually from gender norm dysfunction when what they should be doing is running away from it.

[Grecian]

1 hour ago, LaosLover said:

BA Courier flight.

 

Anyone else take a courier flight back in the 90's? Never a super-deal from New York, but I did BKK roundtrip for $399. Did London for $49 RT once. Lima, Peru, $199. The problem was that you had to come back when they said so. So that London $49 was just for 3 nights.

 

Women are stuck unhappily in the same web of delusion as men. Both men and women seek to profit individually from gender norm dysfunction when what they should be doing is running away from it.

Pls explain last paragraph.

[LaosLover]

They think you're going to support them for no good reason and you think they're going to give you the sex you want for no good reason.

 

There has to be a non-toxic, rational reason for these unusual events to happen.

[Bruno123]

8 hours ago, LaosLover said:

BA Courier flight.

 

Anyone else take a courier flight back in the 90's? Never a super-deal from New York, but I did BKK roundtrip for $399. Did London for $49 RT once. Lima, Peru, $199. The problem was that you had to come back when they said so. So that London $49 was just for 3 nights.

 

Women are stuck unhappily in the same web of delusion as men. Both men and women seek to profit individually from gender norm dysfunction when what they should be doing is running away from it.

 

You did not have to return. There were also one way options and possibilities to extend. That set me off looking for flight bargains ever since. ???? 

[Iamfalang]

want love?  get a pet or have a kid.

 

want sex?   I hope I don't have to spell that one out if you are in LOS

 

want money?  wrong forum

 

want happiness?  wrong forum

 

want to be successful in life and live your dreams?  OK, now I'm just joking.

 

love with a woman is not possible over 50.  only up to 49.99999999..     

 

the problem with loving a woman, the HATE can go deeper than the love (not from experience, but I have a pretty good idea).     with a pet or kid......that is very, very, very, very unlikely.   

[Bruno123]

4 hours ago, LaosLover said:

They think you're going to support them for no good reason and you think they're going to give you the sex you want for no good reason.

 

There has to be a non-toxic, rational reason for these unusual events to happen.

Give me sex? They would be so lucky and I'm certainly not going to beg or pay for them to be with me. It's either mutual or they can get on their bike.

If she is enjoying the experience just as much as you are, then why are you paying? 

On the other hand; an uncomplicated relationship might be just the ticket for some. 

 

[Hummin]

5 minutes ago, Bruno123 said:

Give me sex? They would be so lucky and I'm certainly not going to beg or pay for them to be with me. It's either mutual or they can get on their bike.

If she is enjoying the experience just as much as you are, then why are you paying? 

On the other hand; an uncomplicated relationship might be just the ticket for some. 

 

A mutual relationship is give and take, where both have something to offer. 
 

Be it intulectual, or more basic needs as protection, food, wealth or mutual feelings and chemistry in combination with what said. 

[Bruno123]

10 minutes ago, Hummin said:

A mutual relationship is give and take, where both have something to offer. 
 

Be it intulectual, or more basic needs as protection, food, wealth or mutual feelings and chemistry in combination with what said. 

Why are you trying to explain to me about mutual relationships? Of course I refer to mutual in my eyes...why means that I won't be paying for sex.