Popular Post onthedarkside Posted June 17, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2022 President Joe Biden said Thursday Americans were "really, really down." He's right about that. A new USA TODAY/Suffolk Poll shows the country in a funk and one that sets a problematic political landscape for Democrats in the November elections that are approaching fast. Only 39% of Americans approve of the job Biden is doing as president. A stunning 47% "strongly" disapprove; just 16% "strongly" approve. Academic studies have shown that presidential approval is one of the most reliable predictors of what happens in midterm elections, and a rating this low would traditionally signal significant losses for the president's party. (more) https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-approval-rating-at-39-amid-economic-fears-47-strongly-disapprove-usa-today-suffolk-poll/ar-AAYzOxw 2 1 2
Popular Post onthedarkside Posted June 17, 2022 Author Popular Post Posted June 17, 2022 Biden says Americans are 'really, really down' over pandemic, gas prices but economy is resilient WASHINGTON – Americans are "really, really down" after two years of a pandemic and amid rising gasoline prices but the economy is in better shape than many think, President Joe Biden said Thursday. In a rare interview with a news organization, Biden told the Associated Press that a recession is not inevitable and there's "zero evidence" that the $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief package is a main reason prices are high. ... Biden said he made it clear that "there was going to be a price to pay" for helping Ukraine, but not acting would have been worse. "You’d see chaos in Europe," Biden said. The Russians might have continued into other countries and China and North Korea could have been emboldened to make their own moves. (more) https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-says-americans-are-really-really-down-over-pandemic-gas-prices-but-economy-is-resilient/ar-AAYAc2x 1 3
Popular Post Credo Posted June 17, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2022 I am not a happy person with the state of things, but I am still happier that Biden is in charge and not the previous bafoon. There isn't much that he can directly do that doesn't involve some sharp curbs on capitalism. I'd be for that, but I suspect many wouldn't. 6 7
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 Biden has not been impressive. I say that as a democrat. Not a liberal, by any means, but a Dem. In his defense, he did inherit a boatload of problems, from the orange one. And the democratic party is very broken. But, then again so is the GOP. Hyper inflation is likely to continue for awhile, and the authorities are barely admitting the full extent of inflation. Also, what goes up must come down. The economy has been over heated for quite some time, and within a year, or two, or three, many of us are expecting a historic correction. I would not be surprised to see the Dow drop as low as 5,500, and the housing market to drop by 60%. The current stock market pricing, consumer price increases, and real estate market cannot continue. What is conveniently forgotten, is that this seems like the only time I can remember, up until recently, where we had low interest rates, combined with a historic rise in real estate prices, and consumer prices, to levels never seen before. That was totally unsustainable. Not to get too political here, but I believe Trump started this hyper inflationary cycle when he declared an insane trade war on China and Huawei, with hardly anything to back him up, other than hollow threats, and sanctions, which only hurt the US economy, and US consumers and businesses. Huawei sensed sanctions coming and went out and cornered the world market on rare earth, chips, motherboards, circuit boards, and other materials. Companies started ramping down production due to Covid. When they started to order these elements and parts, none were to be found or the price had skyrocketed. It started a massive supply chain issue with cell phone, computer and automotive components. Then the shipping issues came later. And inflation began skyrocketing. Few want to look back at where this started. At the time I said it was the single dumbest thing a politician had done since Chamberlain denied the bad intentions of the Nazis. Trump created hyper inflation, singlehandedly. Thanks, Don. 4 1 2 5
Popular Post Pedrogaz Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 Who in their right mind would "approve" of what Biden is doing??????? Who are these 40% of ordinary voters that support him and his policies after the total disaster he has made of them? What thoughts go though their minds as they answer the question? Idiots, total idiots. 7 2 1
Popular Post wombat Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 the state that just flipped after 150 years of being stoic gives me the indication these polls are being optimistic 7 1 1
Popular Post wombat Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 52 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Biden has not been impressive. I say that as a democrat. Not a liberal, by any means, but a Dem. In his defense, he did inherit a boatload of problems, from the orange one. And the democratic party is very broken. But, then again so is the GOP. give it a break...i can think of 4 presidents before trump that compounded the stuff ups trump inherited and yet here you are blaming trump? 10 1 3
Popular Post Isaan sailor Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 Open borders, a declared war on the American oil industry, and rampant inflation from trillions of dollars spent on recovery schemes. Stock market only now reacting. Other than that, he’s done a fine job—for Ukraine. 5 3 2
spidermike007 Posted June 18, 2022 Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, wombat said: give it a break...i can think of 4 presidents before trump that compounded the stuff ups trump inherited and yet here you are blaming trump? Yes, gotta give credit to 44. The 44th worst in history, right behind Buchanan. 2 1
Popular Post mikeymike100 Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Pedrogaz said: Who in their right mind would "approve" of what Biden is doing??????? Who are these 40% of ordinary voters that support him and his policies after the total disaster he has made of them? What thoughts go though their minds as they answer the question? Idiots, total idiots. Sadly there are people that think Joe can do no wrong, even though they are $5 a gallon for gas! 8 2
Popular Post ozimoron Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 Just now, mikeymike100 said: Sadly there are people that think Joe can do no wrong, even though they are $5 a gallon for gas! Are you going to blame high gas prices world wide on Biden? The price in the US is still cheap compared to every other developed nation outside the middle east. 2 2 3
Popular Post mikeymike100 Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: Are you going to blame high gas prices world wide on Biden? The price in the US is still cheap compared to every other developed nation outside the middle east. "Are you going to blame high gas prices world wide on Biden" Not at all. I certainly agree that gas prices in the USA are cheaper than many countries, especially in Europe. I was comparing the gas prices in the USA today with what they were 12 month ago! A 55% increase! 5 2 2
Popular Post Isaan sailor Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Are you going to blame high gas prices world wide on Biden? The price in the US is still cheap compared to every other developed nation outside the middle east. Unfair comparison—the US had a vibrant oil industry and much cheaper gasoline on the day Biden took office. Other countries, especially in Central Europe, have always had high gasoline prices. 9
Popular Post ozimoron Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said: Unfair comparison—the US had a vibrant oil industry and much cheaper gasoline on the day Biden took office. Other countries, especially in Central Europe, have always had high gasoline prices. Their gas prices, along with the entire world's have gone up PURELY because of Russia's attack on Ukraine - nothing else. 1 1 2 7
Popular Post nauseus Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 2 hours ago, spidermike007 said: Biden has not been impressive. I say that as a democrat. Not a liberal, by any means, but a Dem. In his defense, he did inherit a boatload of problems, from the orange one. And the democratic party is very broken. But, then again so is the GOP. Hyper inflation is likely to continue for awhile, and the authorities are barely admitting the full extent of inflation. Also, what goes up must come down. The economy has been over heated for quite some time, and within a year, or two, or three, many of us are expecting a historic correction. I would not be surprised to see the Dow drop as low as 5,500, and the housing market to drop by 60%. The current stock market pricing, consumer price increases, and real estate market cannot continue. What is conveniently forgotten, is that this seems like the only time I can remember, up until recently, where we had low interest rates, combined with a historic rise in real estate prices, and consumer prices, to levels never seen before. That was totally unsustainable. Not to get too political here, but I believe Trump started this hyper inflationary cycle when he declared an insane trade war on China and Huawei, with hardly anything to back him up, other than hollow threats, and sanctions, which only hurt the US economy, and US consumers and businesses. Huawei sensed sanctions coming and went out and cornered the world market on rare earth, chips, motherboards, circuit boards, and other materials. Companies started ramping down production due to Covid. When they started to order these elements and parts, none were to be found or the price had skyrocketed. It started a massive supply chain issue with cell phone, computer and automotive components. Then the shipping issues came later. And inflation began skyrocketing. Few want to look back at where this started. At the time I said it was the single dumbest thing a politician had done since Chamberlain denied the bad intentions of the Nazis. Trump created hyper inflation, singlehandedly. Thanks, Don. Only had to read the first para before the blame Trump game started. Sound just like Joe now. 10 1
Popular Post ozimoron Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 Just now, nauseus said: Only had to read the first para before the blame Trump game started. Sound just like Joe now. Trump's 2.5 billion dollar tax cut for the rich which mainly found its way into share buybacks and overseas tax havens had nothing to do with inflation which surged soon afterwards. </sarc>. Additional causes were covid stimulus going to the rich and companies which didn't need it, supply chain disruptions due to covid and Russia's attack on Ukraine. None of this can be sheeted home to Biden. It's also an economic maxim that changes in the economy lag policy by 18 months. 2 1 3 4
Popular Post vandeventer Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 37 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said: "Are you going to blame high gas prices world wide on Biden" Not at all. I certainly agree that gas prices in the USA are cheaper than many countries, especially in Europe. I was comparing the gas prices in the USA today with what they were 12 month ago! A 55% increase! Remember the USA has more oil and gas than all the countries in the world. Look for it Joe it's right in front of your nose. No need to travel around the world begging for it. 9 2
placeholder Posted June 18, 2022 Posted June 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, vandeventer said: Remember the USA has more oil and gas than all the countries in the world. Look for it Joe it's right in front of your nose. No need to travel around the world begging for it. Ya think Biden's a wildcatter? Not exactly in his job description The oil and gas companies hold lots of leases that they haven't exploited it. It wasn't so long ago that prices were really low particularly for gas. Not exactly an encouraging environment to drill. And what he is pushing for, unlike his predecessor, is to get off of fossil fuels once and for all. So the USA won't be dependent on the stuff anymore. 1 1 3 1
Popular Post Isaan sailor Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, ozimoron said: Their gas prices, along with the entire world's have gone up PURELY because of Russia's attack on Ukraine - nothing else. Biden tried that trick (Putin’s price hikes). Not too many are buying that malarkey. Most of US gas hikes and inflation took place prior to Putin’s Ukraine invasion. . 7 1
Popular Post ozimoron Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said: Biden tried that trick (Putin’s price hikes). Not too many are buying that malarkey. Most of US gas hikes and inflation took place prior to Putin’s Ukraine invasion. . The gas prices were rising as the Russian buildup occurred. If they are anything at all to do with Biden why are they rising world wide? The suggestion that they are is "malarkey". 5
Popular Post howlee101 Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 3 hours ago, wombat said: give it a break...i can think of 4 presidents before trump that compounded the stuff ups trump inherited and yet here you are blaming trump? It's the typical response of politics. For 8 years under Obama, everything bad was Bush's fault. After Trump took office, all good things was because of what Obama left him. Now, under Biden, everything is Trump's fault. But according to Biden's press secretary, the US economy is in great shape ???? 3 2
placeholder Posted June 18, 2022 Posted June 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said: Biden tried that trick (Putin’s price hikes). Not too many are buying that malarkey. Most of US gas hikes and inflation took place prior to Putin’s Ukraine invasion. . The price of oil starting zooming upwards in mid 2020. And there isn't a free market in oil. There's a cartel. 1 1 1
ozimoron Posted June 18, 2022 Posted June 18, 2022 1 minute ago, howlee101 said: It's the typical response of politics. For 8 years under Obama, everything bad was Bush's fault. After Trump took office, all good things was because of what Obama left him. Now, under Biden, everything is Trump's fault. But according to Biden's press secretary, the US economy is in great shape ???? High inflation is a fundamental indicator of high demand and low unemployment. 1 2
Popular Post scorpio1945 Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 Look at what the Dems are for. Open borders, emasculating the military, money for nothing, LGBTQ∞ preferences. BLM, Antifa, Unions, Crime is no longer criminal. raising fossil fuel prices, thought and speech police, safe spaces, microaggressions, anti white, defund the police, anti free speech, affirmative action, preference for AA over Hispanics and Asians, compelled speech, taking a knee for a convicted criminal druggie and absentee father, anti normal woman , everything is racist, Big government, Critical Race Theory, Reparations, Cancel Culture, limiting gun rights, anti white male, sanctuary cities etc, etc, 8 1 1
Popular Post Thingamabob Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 4 hours ago, spidermike007 said: Biden has not been impressive. I say that as a democrat. Not a liberal, by any means, but a Dem. In his defense, he did inherit a boatload of problems, from the orange one. And the democratic party is very broken. But, then again so is the GOP. Hyper inflation is likely to continue for awhile, and the authorities are barely admitting the full extent of inflation. Also, what goes up must come down. The economy has been over heated for quite some time, and within a year, or two, or three, many of us are expecting a historic correction. I would not be surprised to see the Dow drop as low as 5,500, and the housing market to drop by 60%. The current stock market pricing, consumer price increases, and real estate market cannot continue. What is conveniently forgotten, is that this seems like the only time I can remember, up until recently, where we had low interest rates, combined with a historic rise in real estate prices, and consumer prices, to levels never seen before. That was totally unsustainable. Not to get too political here, but I believe Trump started this hyper inflationary cycle when he declared an insane trade war on China and Huawei, with hardly anything to back him up, other than hollow threats, and sanctions, which only hurt the US economy, and US consumers and businesses. Huawei sensed sanctions coming and went out and cornered the world market on rare earth, chips, motherboards, circuit boards, and other materials. Companies started ramping down production due to Covid. When they started to order these elements and parts, none were to be found or the price had skyrocketed. It started a massive supply chain issue with cell phone, computer and automotive components. Then the shipping issues came later. And inflation began skyrocketing. Few want to look back at where this started. At the time I said it was the single dumbest thing a politician had done since Chamberlain denied the bad intentions of the Nazis. Trump created hyper inflation, singlehandedly. Thanks, Don. Trump entirely right to try to decrease the disastrous trade dependency on China. Hopefully other Western leaders will do the same, but don't bank on it. 7 1
nauseus Posted June 18, 2022 Posted June 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, scorpio1945 said: Look at what the Dems are for. Open borders, emasculating the military, money for nothing, LGBTQ∞ preferences. BLM, Antifa, Unions, Crime is no longer criminal. raising fossil fuel prices, thought and speech police, safe spaces, microaggressions, anti white, defund the police, anti free speech, affirmative action, preference for AA over Hispanics and Asians, compelled speech, taking a knee for a convicted criminal druggie and absentee father, anti normal woman , everything is racist, Big government, Critical Race Theory, Reparations, Cancel Culture, limiting gun rights, anti white male, sanctuary cities etc, etc, You sure that's all? ???? 2
Popular Post Isaan sailor Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 48 minutes ago, ozimoron said: The gas prices were rising as the Russian buildup occurred. If they are anything at all to do with Biden why are they rising world wide? The suggestion that they are is "malarkey". You get an A for effort. Inflation (including gas prices) in US began far before Putin’s buildup along the Ukraine border. Retired Americans with Social Security got a 5.9% raise in January—based on 3rd quarter inflation indexes. 5 1
Popular Post vandeventer Posted June 18, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2022 29 minutes ago, ozimoron said: The gas prices were rising as the Russian buildup occurred. If they are anything at all to do with Biden why are they rising world wide? The suggestion that they are is "malarkey". Because America is not producing nearly enough because of the Dems. green policies. So America is taking more than 1 million barrels of oil a day away from other countries. The Dems. know all of this but they just can't open their eyes, nor do they want to. 5 3 1
ozimoron Posted June 18, 2022 Posted June 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said: You get A for effort. Inflation (including gas prices) in US began far before Putin’s buildup along the Ukraine border. Retired Americans with Social Security got a 5.9% raise in January—based on 3rd quarter inflation indexes. The steep0est rises in oil only started at the end of February this year. 1
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