(UK) SAS reports reveal troubling pattern of suspicious deaths in Afghanistan

[CharlieH]

 

 

SAS operatives in Afghanistan repeatedly killed detainees and unarmed men in suspicious circumstances, according to a BBC investigation.

Newly obtained military reports suggest that one unit may have unlawfully killed 54 people in one six-month tour.

The BBC found evidence suggesting the former head of Special Forces failed to pass on evidence to a murder inquiry.

 

BBC News article

 

 

[roo860]

More nonsense to try and shame our troops! 

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4 hours ago, roo860 said:

More nonsense to try and shame our troops! 

Thanks for your thoughtful analysis of the evidence.

[Chomper Higgot]

14 hours ago, roo860 said:

More nonsense to try and shame our troops! 

Sounds like more atrocities committed that shame the SAS and evidence of an attempted cover up.

 

 

[lemmie]

Easier to deal with dead than try to manage prisoners. "Too much work", "couldn't be arsed" and so on.

Ask your local resident SAS operative sitting next to you on the bar stool. That's how I found out.

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From the article:

"But senior officers became concerned by the frequency with which the squadron's own accounts described detainees being taken back inside buildings and then grabbing for hidden weapons - an enemy tactic not reported by other British military forces operating in Afghanistan."

[roo860]

An ex SAS soldier, he took part in the Iranian Embassy siege.

[transam]

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Sounds like more atrocities committed that shame the SAS and evidence of an attempted cover up.

 

 

Bang on cue, you have them hanged over a TV program.....Anti-SAS are we...? ????

[Martin71]

Will this turn into another farce like the 'alleged' atrocities said to have been committed by UK troops in Iraq. Thousands of British soldiers had their lives and careers ruined buy false accusations from Iraqi civvies. Of the thousands and thousands investigated at huge expense ( with all the lawyers of the so called victims making millions).

 I think the figures published somewhere said FIFTEEN THOUSAND  allegations and investigations, with only TWO  having been found to be credible.

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1 hour ago, roo860 said:

An ex SAS soldier, he took part in the Iranian Embassy siege.

 

25 minutes ago, Martin71 said:

Will this turn into another farce like the 'alleged' atrocities said to have been committed by UK troops in Iraq. Thousands of British soldiers had their lives and careers ruined buy false accusations from Iraqi civvies. Of the thousands and thousands investigated at huge expense ( with all the lawyers of the so called victims making millions).

 I think the figures published somewhere said FIFTEEN THOUSAND  allegations and investigations, with only TWO  having been found to be credible.

As the article pointed out, only these troops reported that prisoners went for weapons when they accompanied soldiers back into the house. No where else in Afghanistan was this reported. Forensic experts also noted the downward trajectory of bullets fired on homes. Not consistent with a firefight. But I'm sure you read the article and noted these peculiarities.

[roo860]

2 hours ago, Martin71 said:

Will this turn into another farce like the 'alleged' atrocities said to have been committed by UK troops in Iraq. Thousands of British soldiers had their lives and careers ruined buy false accusations from Iraqi civvies. Of the thousands and thousands investigated at huge expense ( with all the lawyers of the so called victims making millions).

 I think the figures published somewhere said FIFTEEN THOUSAND  allegations and investigations, with only TWO  having been found to be credible.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/24/disgraced-human-rights-lawyer-phil-shiner-faces-fraud-charges/

[ozimoron]

21 hours ago, roo860 said:

More nonsense to try and shame our troops! 

Fake news is it? I guess you don't support war crimes charges against your own under any circumstances?

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-19/afghan-war-crimes-report-released-what-you-need-to-know/12899880

[roo860]

53 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Fake news is it? I guess you don't support war crimes charges against your own under any circumstances?

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-19/afghan-war-crimes-report-released-what-you-need-to-know/12899880

My 'own' are not Australians.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, roo860 said:

My 'own' are not Australians.

I included the story as evidence that there are issues out there. Now, do you think allegations against "your own" should be investigated and prosecuted when found credible or not?

[roo860]

Just now, ozimoron said:

I included the story as evidence that there are issues out there. Now, do you think allegations against "your own" should be investigated and prosecuted when found credible or not?

Not credible, so some half ar@ed 'documentary' by an half ar$Ed 'reporter ' isn't going change anything, anytime. Witch hunt, seen it all before.

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, roo860 said:

Not credible, so some half ar@ed 'documentary' by an half ar$Ed 'reporter ' isn't going change anything, anytime. Witch hunt, seen it all before.

54 killed, did they just make stuff up? Nothing to see here? You seem willing to just write this off without wishing the issue to be investigated.

[ozimoron]

The (UK) government closed down its investigation into alleged war crimes in Afghanistan, known as Operation Northmoor, before any soldier was prosecuted. But the BBC’s Panorama has unearthed shocking evidence that Britain’s special forces executed detainees and murdered unarmed people in cold blood in Afghanistan. The programme suggests there was a cover-up within the military to protect the SAS.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/12/the-guardian-view-on-the-sas-in-afghanistan-investigate-claims-of-war-crimes

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, roo860 said:

Not credible, so some half ar@ed 'documentary' by an half ar$Ed 'reporter ' isn't going change anything, anytime. Witch hunt, seen it all before.

Clearly it is bothering you, which is very odd if you believe ‘it isn’t going to change anything’.

 

 

[Scott]

A post making unsubstantiated claims has been removed.  If you are going to make accusations, then supply a link to a credible source.  

 

[BangkokReady]

19 hours ago, roo860 said:

An ex SAS soldier, he took part in the Iranian Embassy siege.

"If a soldier murdered an unarmed enemy captive then charge and punish him severely.  Otherwise <deleted>!"

 

What if someone thinks there has been a coverup and wants to blow the whistle by releasing a documentary?

[Rimmer]

Bickering and baiting posts have been removed

[Bluespunk]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/14/mod-considers-review-into-panoramas-sas-death-squad-claims-afghanistan?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[internationalism]

since occupation of afghanistan in 2001, this country became again the major producer and exporter of drugs (at cost of golden triangle export, who had this record for decades). 

Some 80% of world's opium and heroin is from there, making 11% of GDP.

Look at the production chart in this article - they were doing up to 9k tons per year. The great majority for export.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58308494

it's worth reading history through this perspective. Hundreds billions $ were shared between occupiers and occupied in secret deals between occupying armies and tribal leaders. 

With such big money at stake, war crimes were carried by all sites

Edited July 14, 2022 by internationalism