The Hammer2021 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 On 7/26/2022 at 2:43 PM, Jumbo1968 said: TBH it was fine, I have had better but some times it depends how it is kept and poured, the biggest issue is in this temperature it soon loses its chill. Guinness is never served chilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 On 7/26/2022 at 4:54 PM, 3STTW said: In the UK you can get Guinness or Guinness Cold so it doesn't matter really. In TH, they need to chill it to keep the gas (and hence the pour) under control otherwise you end up with a Guinness fire extinguisher. Cold Guinness is a very new idea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 On 7/26/2022 at 5:17 PM, Jumbo1968 said: Nowadays all beers are served via pumps/gas etc, the old hand pulled pumps were excellent but the breweries decided it was quicker for gas/pumps and generate more revenue. Not in Britain. Hand pumps are still used at real ale pubs and modern craft beer bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo1968 Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: Guinness is never served chilled. So how is it served, Guinness is served as extra cold in the U.K., it goes through a double chilling process. Edited July 28, 2022 by Jumbo1968 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 https://camra.org.uk/ The campaign for real ale sarted in 71 I joined in 74 is the most successful consumer rights group in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said: So how is it served, Guinness is served chilled in the U.K., it goes through a double chilling process. 'Irish stout Guinness must be served exactly 42 degrees from the equator, according to Roarty.Quality-control teams at the company say that the temperature should be 8 degrees, and not 50 degrees, as it seems.When used at a higher temperature, a creamy tan head with “yellows and hicks” looks like.' https://acdc-beverage.com/what-temperature-should-guinness-beer-be-served-at/ Cold Guinness is a new thing. When were taught to pour Guinness we held the glass so the Guinness landed on the thumb to bring it to the correct temperature. Edited July 28, 2022 by The Hammer2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogradod Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: The beer was so bad it led to the creation of CAMRA. The campaign for real ale. Watneys Red Barrel, a keg beer was the nadir in the history of British beer. How could I be so wrong or have at least a so different taste than the majority ? I mean, I had the Watneys BEFORE I went to Amsterdam ????. This makes me even more eager to try it again if I would see it but they do not have it in Central where they really display a large selection of different brands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, moogradod said: How could I be so wrong or have at least a so different taste than the majority ? I mean, I had the Watneys BEFORE I went to Amsterdam ????. This makes me even more eager to try it again if I would see it but they do not have it in Central where they really display a large selection of different brands. As well as Red Barrel being phased out maybe the company changed its name to Wilsons. Part of the Job of CAMRA was to educated people palates. It took 48 years now even young people know real ale is a living organic drink not carbon dioxide filled brown water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Currently some of the best beer in Thailand is called Old Speckled Hen. A British real ale from the midlands 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshadow Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 On 7/26/2022 at 2:35 PM, mikeymike100 said: The price of 209 baht is good. But what does it taste like? I used to drink Guinness in the UK, many years ago, and thought it was a good drink, until I went to Dublin and tried it. It tasted so much better, more flavor, more creamy......just better! of course it tastes better in EIRE........ I drank loads of it at the wharf tavern near Dublin docks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogradod Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: Currently some of the best beer in Thailand is called Old Speckled Hen. A British real ale from the midlands I would chracterize my wife and myself as real gourmets who have eaten everything from self-caught rat on a stick up to the highest Michelin decorated restaurants in France and Spain etc. But it is never too late to get our palates educated further - so - where do I get this Old Speckled Hen ? Then I know how a real British ale should taste. After all I am only German and know little about beer (sorry - ale, real British ale to be precise). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, moogradod said: I would chracterize my wife and myself as real gourmets who have eaten everything from self-caught rat on a stick up to the highest Michelin decorated restaurants in France and Spain etc. But it is never too late to get our palates educated further - so - where do I get this Old Speckled Hen ? Then I know how a real British ale should taste. After all I am only German and know little about beer (sorry - ale, real British ale to be precise). Apparently you can get red barrel from a specialist brewery The information is in the link below https://boakandbailey.com/2019/01/watneys-red-barrel-how-bad-could-it-have-been/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo1968 Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, moogradod said: I would chracterize my wife and myself as real gourmets who have eaten everything from self-caught rat on a stick up to the highest Michelin decorated restaurants in France and Spain etc. But it is never too late to get our palates educated further - so - where do I get this Old Speckled Hen ? Then I know how a real British ale should taste. After all I am only German and know little about beer (sorry - ale, real British ale to be precise). OSH, used to be leg collapsing stuff but they reduced ABV from 5.2% to 4.5% in the keg version to make it more sessionable according to Moreland brewery who brew it. Hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogradod Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: Apparently you can get red barrel from a specialist brewery The information is in the link below https://boakandbailey.com/2019/01/watneys-red-barrel-how-bad-could-it-have-been/ ???????? Thank you. How about your Speckled Hen ? Any hint where this could be tasted in Thailand ? On a side note I regard Weihenstephaner Vitus to be one of the best beers available in Thailand. It is also available for sale - at least in Pattaya Central Festival (TOPS on the ground floor). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3STTW Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 58 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: Cold Guinness is a very new idea No it isn't. Guinness Cold was on sale in the UK 15 years ago or more. The pump was the same design but with a blue stripe around it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo1968 Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, moogradod said: ???????? Thank you. How about your Speckled Hen ? Any hint where this could be tasted in Thailand ? On a side note I regard Weihenstephaner Vitus to be one of the best beers available in Thailand. It is also available for sale - at least in Pattaya Central Festival (TOPS on the ground floor). I used buy OSH in bottles in the U.K., I am sure The Punch and Judy pub opposite Caddy Shack sold it, I am not sure if it is still a pub though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, moogradod said: ???????? Thank you. How about your Speckled Hen ? Any hint where this could be tasted in Thailand ? On a side note I regard Weihenstephaner Vitus to be one of the best beers available in Thailand. It is also available for sale - at least in Pattaya Central Festival (TOPS on the ground floor). I get my OSH draught in Pattaya in Pratumnak and in cans from the expat shops in jomtien 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbeen Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, moogradod said: ???????? Thank you. How about your Speckled Hen ? Any hint where this could be tasted in Thailand ? On a side note I regard Weihenstephaner Vitus to be one of the best beers available in Thailand. It is also available for sale - at least in Pattaya Central Festival (TOPS on the ground floor). OSH Hemingways soi 10 Pattaya 220 pint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogradod Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, jonbeen said: OSH Hemingways soi 10 Pattaya 220 pint OK, Thank you. I know Hemingways. They have good Cider, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogradod Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: I get my OSH draught in Pattaya in Pratumnak and in cans from the expat shops in jomtien Thanks but could you help me being a bit more precise ? Where in Pratumnak and what expat shop do you mean ? To my knowledge there are none on Jomtien itself. We live at the end of Na Jomtien and shop in Villa, Friendship, Tops especially for Japanese food,, Big C Extra, even at times at Siamburies and at the Time Out Bistro and rarely in this shop on Thepprasit opposite the bus terminal (forgot the name). For Indian ingredients in a soi opposite Soi Diamond near the Hindu temple. Then some markets like in Sattahib. A secret tip if the strawberry season arrives. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogradod Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said: I used buy OSH in bottles in the U.K., I am sure The Punch and Judy pub opposite Caddy Shack sold it, I am not sure if it is still a pub though. No idea where that is but I will try to find out. No prob. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, moogradod said: Thanks but could you help me being a bit more precise ? Where in Pratumnak and what expat shop do you mean ? To my knowledge there are none on Jomtien itself. We live at the end of Na Jomtien and shop in Villa, Friendship, Tops especially for Japanese food,, Big C Extra, even at times at Siamburies and at the Time Out Bistro and rarely in this shop on Thepprasit opposite the bus terminal (forgot the name). For Indian ingredients in a soi opposite Soi Diamond near the Hindu temple. Then some markets like in Sattahib. A secret tip if the strawberry season arrives. ???? The Pantry ex Pats shop for tins. Near the Golden statue where Thapraya turns right to the beach front For draught Guinness and OSH The Kinnary/ Kinnery between soi 4 soi 5 Pratumnak. They also have draught white/ wheat beer. Edited July 28, 2022 by The Hammer2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topt Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 hours ago, moogradod said: where do I get this Old Speckled Hen ? Then I know how a real British ale should taste. Witherspoons on Soi Buakhow have a number of British "ales" in cans/bottles available including Abbott Ale which I personally prefer to OSH. Unfortunately no draught at this time. They are however hidden in one of the fridges and you need to ask for the specific menu........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 hours ago, 3STTW said: No it isn't. Guinness Cold was on sale in the UK 15 years ago or more. The pump was the same design but with a blue stripe around it. Unfortunately 15 years is new to me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 12 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said: Guinness is never served chilled. Yes it is... they had 2 separate pumps at many pubs. One was Extra chilled IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo1968 Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, jacko45k said: Yes it is... they had 2 separate pumps at many pubs. One was Extra chilled IIRC. My local pub in the U.K. had 2 Guinness pumps. One was chilled the other was extra cold, they removed the chilled pump as they said there was no demand for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 12 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said: My local pub in the U.K. had 2 Guinness pumps. One was chilled the other was extra cold, they removed the chilled pump as they said there was no demand for it. Might be a seasonal thing.... I used to go for the Extra but I had been traveling a lot and developed a taste for colder beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokman Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 On 7/26/2022 at 2:35 PM, mikeymike100 said: The price of 209 baht is good. But what does it taste like? I used to drink Guinness in the UK, many years ago, and thought it was a good drink, until I went to Dublin and tried it. It tasted so much better, more flavor, more creamy......just better! This is due to the better water they have in Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Ray Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 On 7/26/2022 at 2:35 PM, mikeymike100 said: The price of 209 baht is good. But what does it taste like? I used to drink Guinness in the UK, many years ago, and thought it was a good drink, until I went to Dublin and tried it. It tasted so much better, more flavor, more creamy......just better! Guinness used to be brewed both in Park Royal, London and in Dublin. The water of course was different, so some said the Liffey gave the Dublin brew a better taste. Now Park Royal has closed so U.K. Guinness comes only from Dublin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo1968 Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 Witherspoons are cutrentlt advertising it on their Facebook Page, anyone tried it and how much for a pint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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