Truss surges ahead, wins key backers in U.K. leadership race for prime minister

[transam]

7 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Oh dear, truss drops another b******

Getting a lot of pushback after her comments, claims made with no evidence produced to back them up. 
 

“Mike Katz, of the Jewish Labour Movement, added: “We’re not sure what the ‘woke civil service culture that strays into antisemitism’ is. But what we are sure is that this is a desperate and divisive attempt by Liz Truss to drag Jews into her campaign to win over the Conservative membership with nonsense buzzword pledges.” 

 

Mike Clancy, the general secretary of Prospect, another civil service union, said Truss “should have a better grip on both the evidence and facts about what is happening in the civil service. If there is evidence, she should publish it”.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/12/liz-truss-protect-british-jews-antisemitism-woke-culture?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Is she still in front of Rishi, does Your Guardian tell you....?  ????

[Chomper Higgot]

On 8/10/2022 at 5:22 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

Be Patient .

Wait until a leader has been elected .

Nothing can happen until then 

What’s this nonsense?

 

Has the Government ceased to exist?

 

 

[bannork]

Barring accidents, just a few weeks before Liz is in the chair.

 

 

[baboon]

^^

A parody of a parody.

[Bluespunk]

2 hours ago, transam said:

Is she still in front of Rishi, does Your Guardian tell you....?  ????

As I said, I hope so but not seen any polls lately. If the base do vote truss in, the opposition should be delighted.
 

She is a key election asset for them given her gaffe ridden campaign for the leadership of the party. 
 

truss is not good under pressure and during this contest has dodged situations where she would be pressed on her policies (She has avoided an interview with Andrew Neil and the BBC, both of which sunak took on). 
 

She won’t be able to avoid pressure when pm and her lack of understanding of her own policies so far does not bode well for the tories. 
 

#votetruss-the opposition’s choice. 

Edited August 13, 2022 by Bluespunk

[Excel]

Just now, Bluespunk said:

As I said, I hope so but not seen any polls lately. If the base do vote truss in, the opposition should be delighted.
 

She is a key election asset for them given her gaffe ridden campaign for the leadership of the party. 
 

#votetruss-the opposition’s choice. 

It is interesting that the polls have stopped. 

[Bluespunk]

36 minutes ago, bannork said:

Barring accidents, just a few weeks before Liz is in the chair.

 

 

Love the wrong turn ending. 

[transam]

42 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

As I said, I hope so but not seen any polls lately. If the base do vote Truss in, the opposition should be delighted.
 

She is a key election asset for them given her gaffe ridden campaign for the leadership of the Party. 
 

Truss is not good under pressure and during this contest has dodged situations where she would be pressed on her policies (She has avoided an interview with Andrew Neil and the BBC, both of which Sunak took on). 
 

She won’t be able to avoid pressure when PM and her lack of understanding of her own policies so far does not bode well for the Tories. 
 

#votetruss-the opposition’s choice. 

Thanks for that, we will have to wait and see...????

[Bluespunk]

8 minutes ago, transam said:

Thanks for that, we will have to wait and see...????

Yep.
 

Looking forward to truss pmqs. 
 

I doubt she is though. 

 

#votetruss- not good on details or under pressure. 

Edited August 13, 2022 by Bluespunk

[transam]

54 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Yep.
 

Looking forward to Truss pmqs. 
 

I doubt she is though. 

 

#votetruss- not good on details or under pressure. 

Weeeell, with the quality of the opposition Party's speakers, I really don't think she has a lot to worry about, even Penny buried the second in command of the Labour Party to a point of embarrassment.

 

The socialists can spout as much as they like with their guesswork, but should really wait till the new Blues leader is actually in command..............????

 

 

[Bluespunk]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Weeeell, with the quality of the opposition Party's speakers, I really don't think she has a lot to worry about, even Penny buried the second in command of the Labour Party to a point of embarrassment.

 

The socialists can spout as much as they like with their guesswork, but should really wait till the new Blues leader is actually in command..............????

 

 

truss is a terrible public speaker and does not cope well under pressure. 
 

She cannot explain her own policies and has shown a tendency to spout absolute nonsense (women in gaol for tv license non payment for example). Her lack of knowledge about the minutia of policy is an Achilles heel the opposition will be able to exploit. 
 

The opposition will enjoy pmqs. 
 

And as to the division’s exposed during the current campaign, they will not heal quickly…

 

All looking good for the opposition with truss as PM. 
 

#votetruss- promising without comprehending. 

[transam]

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

Truss is a terrible public speaker and does not cope well under pressure. 
 

She cannot explain her own policies and has shown a tendency to spout absolute nonsense (women in gaol for tv license non payment for example). Her lack of knowledge about the minutia of policy is an Achilles heel the opposition will be able to exploit. 
 

The opposition will enjoy pmqs. 
 

And as to the division’s exposed during the current campaign, they will not heal quickly…

 

All looking good for the opposition with Truss as PM. 
 

#votetruss- promising without comprehending. 

As I said, let's wait until she has the job first, no use guessing on her Despatch Box appearances, plus, there is nobody good enough in the opposition Party's to be a problem.  ???? 

[Bluespunk]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

As I said, let's wait until she has the job first, no use guessing on her Despatch Box appearances, plus, there is nobody good enough in the opposition Party's to be a problem.  ???? 

No need to guess, truss has shown how bad she is already when pressured and has bottled interviews sunak took in. 
 

Latest u-turn

 

”A spokesperson for Sunak’s campaign said on Friday that Truss had “blown a further £5bn black hole in her plans” by not backing the windfall tax. However, the Truss campaign later clarified that she was not scrapping the current windfall tax, despite being against them in principle as a “Labour idea”

 

Lot of clarification required after truss speaks on something-might need a minister of clarification in the next cabinet. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/12/liz-truss-plans-lowest-earners-pay-energy-bills-insulting-labour?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Edited August 13, 2022 by Bluespunk

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

No need to guess, she’s shown how bad she is already when pressured and has bottled interviews Sunak took in. 
 

Latest u-turn

 

”A spokesperson for Sunak’s campaign said on Friday that Truss had “blown a further £5bn black hole in her plans” by not backing the windfall tax. However, the Truss campaign later clarified that she was not scrapping the current windfall tax, despite being against them in principle as a “Labour idea”

 

Lot of clarification required after Truss speaks on something-might need a minister of clarification in the next cabinet. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/12/liz-truss-plans-lowest-earners-pay-energy-bills-insulting-labour?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

It seems near everything you post is based on the lefty "The Guardian" rag, ........????..........................????

 

But, let's get the PM seat filled, as you have said here many times, you hope Liz Truss gets the top job, something we agree on....????

 

Let's just be thankful, that what ever happens, the Blues will still be in control...................????

[Bluespunk]

15 minutes ago, transam said:

It seems near everything you post is based on the lefty "The Guardian" rag, ........????..........................????

 

But, let's get the PM seat filled, as you have said here many times, you hope Liz Truss gets the top job, something we agree on....????

 

Let's just be thankful, that what ever happens, the Blues will still be in control...................????

You just don’t like reported news that doesn’t fit your worldview, do you…

 

truss, if she wins, will indeed be pm.
 

How much control she has over a deeply divided party…weeeell now…

 

#votetruss-she can overturn a 70+ majority. 

Edited August 13, 2022 by Bluespunk
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[transam]

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

You just don’t like reported news that doesn’t fit your worldview, do you…

 

Truss, if she wins, will indeed be pm.
 

How much control she has over a deeply divided party…weeeell now…

 

#votetruss-she can overturn a 70+ majority. 

My World view does not come from one socialist newspaper, yours seems too.  

She will have control, the same as Boris,  if it doesn't work out, she will go the same way. 

Divided Party.....????......They are going through the throes of voting for a new leader, do you know what voting is, and how Liz and Rishi got to the final, they were voted for by, wait for it......Tory's ... 

 

????...............????

[Slip]

12 minutes ago, transam said:

My World view does not come from one socialist newspaper, yours seems too.  

She will have control, the same as Boris,  if it doesn't work out, she will go the same way. 

Divided Party.....????......They are going through the throes of voting for a new leader, do you know what voting is, and how Liz and Rishi got to the final, they were voted for by, wait for it......Tory's ... 

 

????...............????

...throes  ???????????? (Hope you don't mind me keeping it to your level of debate with the emojis)

[transam]

1 minute ago, Slip said:

...throes  ???????????? (Hope you don't mind me keeping it to your level of debate with the emojis)

Be my guest............????

[Bluespunk]

41 minutes ago, transam said:

My World view does not come from one socialist newspaper, yours seems too.  

She will have control, the same as Boris,  if it doesn't work out, she will go the same way. 

Divided Party.....????......They are going through the throes of voting for a new leader, do you know what voting is, and how Liz and Rishi got to the final, they were voted for by, wait for it......Tory's ... 

 

????...............????

Guardian-socialist 

You really do need to get a grip on reality. 
 

truss will have control-LOL- that’s even funnier.
 

More than half the party voted against her. There are reasons they did that. 
 

The divisions in the party are exposed and festering. 
 

Nothing truss has said or done suggests she can heal these open sores, but she has certainly shown an ability to make them worse. 
 

#votetruss-the opposition’s choice. 

Edited August 13, 2022 by Bluespunk

[transam]

9 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Guardian-socialist 

You really do need to get a grip on reality. 
 

Truss will have control-LOL- that’s even funnier.
 

More than half the party voted against her. There are reasons they did that. 
 

The divisions in the party are exposed and festering. 
 

Nothing Truss has said or done suggests she can heal these open sores, but she has certainly shown an ability to make them worse. 
 

#votetruss-the opposition’s choice. 

????............She hasn't got the job yet...........????

 

"The divisions in the Party are exposed and festering", that's off-topic, we are not talking about the Labour Party, ol' chum...????

[Bluespunk]

6 minutes ago, transam said:

????............She hasn't got the job yet...........????

 

"The divisions in the Party are exposed and festering", that's off-topic, we are not talking about the Labour Party, ol' chum...????

Nope and neither was I discussing any of the opposition. 

Where did I say truss had the job. 
 

I’m not your chum. 

#votetruss- promising without understanding 

Edited August 13, 2022 by Bluespunk

[Scott]

Off-topic posts and replies removed. 

 

[stevenl]

Good analysis here, with a extremely uncertain conclusion about the lady.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/14/uk/liz-truss-profile-mcgee-intl-gbr-cmd/index.html

[Bluespunk]

Oops…looks like sunak has stirred up a hornet’s nest

 

https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2022/aug/14/ministers-reject-attempt-to-curb-political-influence-over-the-allocation-of-levelling-up-funds?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[Bluespunk]

Past coming back to haunt truss

 

”Liz Truss, now the Tory leadership frontrunner, launched an astonishing broadside against British workers, saying they needed “more graft” and suggesting they lacked the “skill and application” of foreign rivals”

 

Clarification team on the case already. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/16/leaked-audio-reveals-liz-truss-said-british-workers-needed-more-graft?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Edited August 16, 2022 by Bluespunk
Link added

[Chomper Higgot]

5 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Past coming back to haunt truss

 

”Liz Truss, now the Tory leadership frontrunner, launched an astonishing broadside against British workers, saying they needed “more graft” and suggesting they lacked the “skill and application” of foreign rivals”

 

Clarification team on the case already. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/16/leaked-audio-reveals-liz-truss-said-british-workers-needed-more-graft?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

She’s simply repeating obnoxious views she had previously recorded in the book she coauthored ‘Unchained Britannia’.

 

I’d buy a copy of it were printed on softer paper.

 

 

Edited August 16, 2022 by Chomper Higgot

[Mavideol]

12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

She’s simply repeating obnoxious views she had previously recorded in the book she coauthored ‘Unchained Britannia’.

 

I’d buy a copy of it were printed on softer paper.

 

 

white or brown  555

[Bluespunk]

Even those supporting truss are backing away from her lazy workers comments. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/17/sajid-javid-says-britons-are-hard-workers-after-leaked-liz-truss-graft-remarks?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[bannork]

An example of a lazy British worker.

[Slip]

3 hours ago, bannork said:

An example of a lazy British worker.

As amusing as this is, I take issue with referring to this over-privileged pos that our working class tory members love as a "worker".  He has never done a day's work in his puff!