allane Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 The Immigration office is Bangkok, to where the person moved in Late May. Chronology: March 10 - last 90 day report was done in previous province of residence; slip received indicated that next 90 day report is due June 10 April 3 - person left Thailand May 3 - person returned to Thailand May 16 - person moved from previous province to Bangkok, and began a new job on May 17 July 21 - person returned to old province, and cancelled old Extension of Stay July 25 - person received new temporary extension of stay re new job July 31 - 89 days from May 3, so if a new 90 day report is needed, a 7 day grace period remains Aug. 5 - person will be returning to Immigration to receive a further 10 months on extension of stay Questions: Must he do a 90 day report this week, to avoid a fine ? Is a 90 day report necessary at all, since he has a new Extension of Stay ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted August 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2022 Changing addresses and applying for a new extension does not change when a 90 day report is due. His report was still due on the 31st. It needs to be done by Friday the 5th or he can be fined 2000 baht since the 7th is on Sunday. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allane Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 Many thanks. Your opinion concurs with mine. The 90 Day report is about residence, and is not affected by a change in visa extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted August 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2022 37 minutes ago, allane said: Many thanks. Your opinion concurs with mine. The 90 Day report is about residence, and is not affected by a change in visa extension. You are making simple sound difficult. It is required for continuous stay in Thailand of 90 days. If at any stage you exit Thailand your 90 day clock starts again upon reentry. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJAS Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Some offices will allow you to reset your 90-day reporting clock when you submit an application for an annual extension of stay. That certainly happened to me at Rayong when I applied for (and was granted) my latest retirement extension there a few weeks ago. Presumably Chaengwattana aren't one of them, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, OJAS said: Presumably Chaengwattana aren't one of them, though? CW went with that briefly late last year. Not sure if it's done now at CW For my thinking I wish immigration offices would stay out of it. 90 day reports have nothing to do with annual extensions. My last extension (CW) November 2021 the io noticed my report was due and started doing one. I said no thankyou. I do myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 On 8/1/2022 at 6:33 PM, DrJack54 said: If at any stage you exit Thailand your 90 day clock starts again upon reentry. Mine didn't.............twice. My online reporting date was unaffected by my entry at Suvarnabhumi in June, nor my entry at Don Muang in July. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted August 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, hotandsticky said: My online reporting date was unaffected by my entry at Suvarnabhumi in June, nor my entry at Don Muang in July. There is no linkage between the online reporting site and immigrations arrival records. You change your arrival date when completing the report and the report is then due 90 days after you arrived 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 46 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: There is no linkage between the online reporting site and immigrations arrival records. You change your arrival date when completing the report and the report is then due 90 days after you arrived That doesn't make sense - the next report date is 90 after you report; the arrival date is irrelevant. In my case:- Arrived 13 June Usual notification to make report received 15 June Report made 17 June Accepted 18 June Next report due 16 September (90 days after 18 June) 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 30 minutes ago, hotandsticky said: That doesn't make sense - the next report date is 90 after you report; the arrival date is irrelevant. It is a report of staying longer that 90 days in the country. No report is due unless you are in the country for 90 days. Read the title of this page on the immigration website. https://www.immigration.go.th/en/?page_id=1666 On the day you leave the country the 90 day count for reporting is reset to zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 hour ago, hotandsticky said: My online reporting date was unaffected by my entry at Suvarnabhumi in June, nor my entry at Don Muang in July. Entry to Thailand starts your 90 day count. It resets everytime you exit. By way of example ...my next report date is 25th Sept. The thing is I travel to Oz in Aug. So that report 25th is wiped. Don't do it. I return Sept 8. My next report is due 90 days from the arrival date. Prior to covid I never did a 90 day report for several years due to never being in Thailand continuously for 90 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 hour ago, DrJack54 said: Entry to Thailand starts your 90 day count. It resets everytime you exit. By way of example ...my next report date is 25th Sept. The thing is I travel to Oz in Aug. So that report 25th is wiped. Don't do it. I return Sept 8. My next report is due 90 days from the arrival date. Prior to covid I never did a 90 day report for several years due to never being in Thailand continuously for 90 days. My example shows that the clock does NOT reset. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 2 hours ago, ubonjoe said: It is a report of staying longer that 90 days in the country. No report is due unless you are in the country for 90 days. Read the title of this page on the immigration website. https://www.immigration.go.th/en/?page_id=1666 On the day you leave the country the 90 day count for reporting is reset to zero. If anything is set to zero, surely it is the arrival date I last left the country on 19th July, returning on 22nd July. What date are you suggesting is my next report date? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, hotandsticky said: My example shows that the clock does NOT reset. Did you read this post I did earlier. 3 hours ago, ubonjoe said: There is no linkage between the online reporting site and immigrations arrival records. You change your arrival date when completing the report and the report is then due 90 days after you arrived Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted August 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, hotandsticky said: My example shows that the clock does NOT reset. The timeline that you posted is incorrect and confused. That's why you received 2 confused emoji. Read uj post above along with my previous post and hopefully will become clear. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted August 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, hotandsticky said: I last left the country on 19th July, returning on 22nd July. What date are you suggesting is my next report date? October 19th according to my date calculator. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotandsticky Posted August 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 3, 2022 Just now, ubonjoe said: Did you read this post I did earlier. Yes. I can't change my arrival date until I get the notification from the Immigration online system. Did you read my post above? My report date remains 16 September (unaffected because it is not linked to arrival records) I will get (as before) a notification about 18 days before the report date. I will complete the report date 15 days before and Immigration will no doubt approve around 13 days before. My next report date (as on the last occasion I quoted) will be 90 days from the approval date NOT my last arrival date. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: October 19th according to my date calculator. My bet is that it will be 2nd December. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: The timeline that you posted is incorrect and confused. That's why you received 2 confused emoji. Read uj post above along with my previous post and hopefully will become clear. Why is this incorrect? Arrived 13 June Usual notification to make report received 15 June Report made 17 June Accepted 18 June Next report due 16 September (90 days after 18 June) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Just now, hotandsticky said: My bet is that it will be 2nd December. If you already did a 90 day report that was not required it would be that day if that is 90 days from the day you did the report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 minute ago, ubonjoe said: If you already did a 90 day report that was not required it would be that day if that is 90 days from the day you did the report I only do a report when I receive an email from Immigration to do so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 minute ago, hotandsticky said: I only do a report when I receive an email from Immigration to do so. Why? Did you change your arrival date on the 90 day report site? It should of been denied it you did change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B Good Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 On 8/1/2022 at 5:39 PM, ubonjoe said: Changing addresses and applying for a new extension does not change when a 90 day report is due. His report was still due on the 31st. It needs to be done by Friday the 5th or he can be fined 2000 baht since the 7th is on Sunday. Nearly got caught out on that. Realized at the last minute mine was due on a Sunday.......phoned to ask is it okay to do it on the Monday?..........Ans: Yes, no problem, see you Monday. Found out somewhere about the fine and made a quick dash on the Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: Why? Did you change your arrival date on the 90 day report site? It should of been denied it you did change it. Let's keep it simple... I receive the email below and I complete the online report - simple as that. Whatever my last entry date was, I insert that. It had no bearing on my next report date which was 90 days from the report approval date. [TM47] Notification for alien before the next appointment. RB - Visa extension and Immigration [email protected] Fri, 17 Jun, 01:02 to me Dear XXX, Your receipt for notification of "STAYING LONGER THAN 90 DAYS" will be due on 02/07/2022. For information: Full Name : XXX Passport No : 12345678 Nationality : XXX Reference No: TM47-20-20220403193557558 Please apply TM47 request online or contact the Immigration Branch Office in your residence area before due date. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, hotandsticky said: l last left the country on 19th July, returning on 22nd July. What date are you suggesting is my next report date? Your starting date is July 22, 2022 so that means that 90 days later would be October 19, 2022 Edited August 3, 2022 by DrJack54 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted August 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, hotandsticky said: I receive the email below and I complete the online report - simple as that. Whatever my last entry date was, I insert that. It had no bearing on my next report date which was 90 days from the report approval date. As I wrote before entering the country does not change the date your report is due in the online system. You can ignore the notification email if you have entered the country since you last report.l You did a report that was not due yet. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post couchpotato Posted August 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, hotandsticky said: That doesn't make sense - the next report date is 90 after you report; the arrival date is irrelevant. In my case:- Arrived 13 June Usual notification to make report received 15 June Report made 17 June Accepted 18 June Next report due 16 September (90 days after 18 June) Actually your post doesnt make sense. Of course the arrival date is relevant. Why make a report 2 days after you arrive in Thailand. Arrival resets any 90day reporting. ie: if you arrived June 13th, then your next report is 90 days after that. Edited August 3, 2022 by couchpotato 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Thailand 90-Day Reporting Requirements: An Expat's Guide (thethailandlife.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, couchpotato said: Actually your post doesnt make sense. of course arrival date is relevant. Why make a report 2 days after you arrive in Thailand. Arrival resets any 90 reporting. ie: if you arrived June 13th, then your next report is 90 after that. The sheep are out in force. I don't care whether anyone accepts the facts or not, BUT don't accuse me of lying. I arrived 13th June. I received the online notification on 15 June. I responded on 17 June and the report was accepted on 18 June. Guess what what my next reporting date is. Edited August 3, 2022 by hotandsticky 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post marin Posted August 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, hotandsticky said: I arrived 13th June. I received the online notification on 15 June. Nobody is accusing you of lying, in fact most have bee n quite nice. In reality if you left the country and returned on June 13, you will have to report in 90 days. The computer system does not know you left and was giving you a 90 day report due time with reference to your last 90 day report. The system did not know you have left. Its all good but you did not have to report until 90 days from June 13 by law. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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