Rezum experience

[Klong Song]

I recently discovered that my local govt hospital is offering the Rezum procedure for BPH at half the cost of some of the private hospitals. I would appreciate hearing pros and cons from people that have had this procedure. Thanks

[Lacessit]

IMO how well the procedure works and any side effects are very much in the hands of the urologist/surgeon doing the operation.

Which means in a public hospital the doctor may not be as well qualified or experienced.

[thailand49]

My brother recently had this procedure but for a number of reasons!  With Thailand pass no longer required I urged him to return to the States, which he did to obtain a second opinion as to his condition.

For whatever reason Rezum stuck in his head because that what was recommended by the private hospital 200,000 baht, he flew back home free through his Medicare plan. 

He did no research on the procedure and no good when it comes to pain.  My research was different because how does sticking a rod up and into your penis doesn't hurt I said nothing didn't want to pshych him out. 

In the end, he got Rezum because that was his choice said it was painful that he cry the whole time and nearly past out.  After had a bag so he could <deleted> after a few days removed the insert from procedure still hurt but peeing better but close to 2 week. After a week from the procedure Doctor said you good to good he is back in Thailand now. 

There are tons of YouTube video on it plus others the results noted in one since it is fairly new 2015, no long term data on results but sound like 5 years might have to do it again. 

Curious please note your location and cost they gave you?

It essnt a cake walk as noted in videos. 

Edited August 10, 2022 by thailand49

[wpcoe]

28 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

...what was recommended by the private hospital 200,000 baht...

Oh, wow.  I didn't realize it was that expensive.  Did Medicare cover all (most?) of it back in the USA?

[Guderian]

I know a guy who had it done a few months ago in Bangkok Hospital Pattaya. He was pleased with the results and, although it's not a comfortable experience having something stuck up your willy (unless you're into sounding, lol), he didn't mention any pain.  The cost was 200K Baht which his local medical insurance picked up. He had to wear a pee bag for a week afterwards but after that was removed everything was fine. I also read that it's good for just 5 years, but as it's a new procedure they may just be guessing on the safe side of things there. I also checked the price in a UK private hospital and that was £5K to £6K, so about the same. The days of Thailand being a cheap medical destination are well and truly over, at least for us Brits.

[Klong Song]

1 hour ago, thailand49 said:

My brother recently had this procedure but for a number of reasons!  With Thailand pass no longer required I urged him to return to the States, which he did to obtain a second opinion as to his condition.

For whatever reason Rezum stuck in his head because that what was recommended by the private hospital 200,000 baht, he flew back home free through his Medicare plan. 

He did no research on the procedure and no good when it comes to pain.  My research was different because how does sticking a rod up and into your penis doesn't hurt I said nothing didn't want to pshych him out. 

In the end, he got Rezum because that was his choice said it was painful that he cry the whole time and nearly past out.  After had a bag so he could <deleted> after a few days removed the insert from procedure still hurt but peeing better but close to 2 week. After a week from the procedure Doctor said you good to good he is back in Thailand now. 

There are tons of YouTube video on it plus others the results noted in one since it is fairly new 2015, no long term data on results but sound like 5 years might have to do it again. 

Curious please note your location and cost they gave you?

It essnt a cake walk as noted in videos. 

I’m located in Rangsit and the ballpark figure for the cost was 100,000 Baht 

[Klong Song]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

IMO how well the procedure works and any side effects are very much in the hands of the urologist/surgeon doing the operation.

Which means in a public hospital the doctor may not be as well qualified or experienced.

So true and since the procedure has only been available in Thailand since January 2022 I would guess not many doctors have extensive experience unless they have been practicing in another country. 

[Klong Song]

53 minutes ago, Guderian said:

I know a guy who had it done a few months ago in Bangkok Hospital Pattaya. He was pleased with the results and, although it's not a comfortable experience having something stuck up your willy (unless you're into sounding, lol), he didn't mention any pain.  The cost was 200K Baht which his local medical insurance picked up. He had to wear a pee bag for a week afterwards but after that was removed everything was fine. I also read that it's good for just 5 years, but as it's a new procedure they may just be guessing on the safe side of things there. I also checked the price in a UK private hospital and that was £5K to £6K, so about the same. The days of Thailand being a cheap medical destination are well and truly over, at least for us Brits.

Thanks for the reply.  Good to know that someone had a positive 

outcome.

[Thingamabob]

Thr problem with Rezum is that, even if it works well, it will need to be repeated every 4/5 years. 

[StevieAus]

1 hour ago, Guderian said:

I know a guy who had it done a few months ago in Bangkok Hospital Pattaya. He was pleased with the results and, although it's not a comfortable experience having something stuck up your willy (unless you're into sounding, lol), he didn't mention any pain.  The cost was 200K Baht which his local medical insurance picked up. He had to wear a pee bag for a week afterwards but after that was removed everything was fine. I also read that it's good for just 5 years, but as it's a new procedure they may just be guessing on the safe side of things there. I also checked the price in a UK private hospital and that was £5K to £6K, so about the same. The days of Thailand being a cheap medical destination are well and truly over, at least for us Brits.

I don’t know if this procedure is considered expensive in Thailand because it’s relatively new but I think you will find many others are not.

I recently saw a specialist at a private hospital,  the total fee which included an X Ray and blood test was the equivalent of 35 UK pounds, all wrapped up within less than two hours.

[jonbeen]

Read up on some extended reviews,basically useless

[thailand49]

2 hours ago, wpcoe said:

Oh, wow.  I didn't realize it was that expensive.  Did Medicare cover all (most?) of it back in the USA?

As noted Private hospital in Pattaya quoted him 200,000 pretty much the same in the U. S.

Already dissatisfied with the jerking around for two years milking him he had enough.

He has a Medicare Supplement plan so after their own test to confirm he didn't have cancer the procedure was done everything was covered from all Doctor visit,  equipment,  medication not one penny was out of him. 

Overall from beginning to end if you don't have a place to stay two months even at 200,000 baht overall if needed has to be considered. 

[thailand49]

1 hour ago, Klong Song said:

I’m located in Rangsit and the ballpark figure for the cost was 100,000 Baht 

That sounds like in Bangkok,  if you do have it done by them please let me know the outcome although after reading up on other procedures available maybe not here in Thailand I'm thinking twice if I got to put my perker through that kind of pain I want a longer outcome. Based on numbers of us old guys getting it I want it to last as long as possible only ONCE before my grave. 

As noted,  this is a new procedure just arriving in Thailand and of course Doctor skill and experience is important buy there are others available with more data and even in Thailand I think neurologist might not have done a lot of Rezum but others. If data is correct 1 out of 2 will have the problem they will get plenty of practice. 

I met up with my brother tail end prior to procedure the Doctor he got although he had appointments we had to wait hours it was like every old guy in the community was in his office at times this guy was running a dick factory.  

Edited August 10, 2022 by thailand49

[jonbeen]

3 hours ago, thailand49 said:

That sounds like in Bangkok,  if you do have it done by them please let me know the outcome although after reading up on other procedures available maybe not here in Thailand I'm thinking twice if I got to put my perker through that kind of pain I want a longer outcome. Based on numbers of us old guys getting it I want it to last as long as possible only ONCE before my grave. 

As noted,  this is a new procedure just arriving in Thailand and of course Doctor skill and experience is important buy there are others available with more data and even in Thailand I think neurologist might not have done a lot of Rezum but others. If data is correct 1 out of 2 will have the problem they will get plenty of practice. 

I met up with my brother tail end prior to procedure the Doctor he got although he had appointments we had to wait hours it was like every old guy in the community was in his office at times this guy was running a dick factory.  

It is not a new procedure just arriving in Thailand,its been around for years,and if water retention is the problem ,the procedure is useless

[xylophone]

5 minutes ago, jonbeen said:

It is not a new procedure just arriving in Thailand,its been around for years,and if water retention is the problem ,the procedure is useless

It is a procedure designed to combat BPH, by widening the passage in the prostate, through which the urethra passes (actually they are part and parcel of the same thing) which of course can cause water retention, and it is an alternative to the long used TURP procedure.

 

Somebody posted that person will have to get the procedure done after 4/5 years, but the poster would have been better saying that someone MAY have to get the procedure repeated down the line. Actually, even with a TURP, which reams out the prostate, it can grow back again and sometimes the operation is required nine or 10 years down the track, so nothing is guaranteed.

 

There is a poster on one of the Prostate threads who had the Rezum operation done, and although it didn't go too well for him early on in the piece, he has reported back that it has settled down and he is peeing almost normally again.

 

I've researched all of the options, this after having a TURP, and a BNI, which still did not alleviate all of my problems, and if water retention was a problem for me I would go after the Urolift or iTind procedures. As it is, I have a neurogenic bladder which doesn't empty fully and cannot be rectified by the two procedures I've mentioned, so I am now adept at using a catheter, which wasn't where I would want to be at my time of life!
 

[jonbeen]

One of private hospitals  in pattaya was doing it for 75000

[KannikaP]

6 hours ago, StevieAus said:

I don’t know if this procedure is considered expensive in Thailand because it’s relatively new but I think you will find many others are not.

I recently saw a specialist at a private hospital,  the total fee which included an X Ray and blood test was the equivalent of 35 UK pounds, all wrapped up within less than two hours.

Are you talking about the whole Rezum operation?

[thailand49]

59 minutes ago, jonbeen said:

One of private hospitals  in pattaya was doing it for 75000

There are only a few private if you can't name it or even hint to it then it basically isn't! 

[thailand49]

3 hours ago, jonbeen said:

It is not a new procedure just arriving in Thailand,its been around for years,and if water retention is the problem ,the procedure is useless

It has been around since 2015 as noted,  as for Thailand having it as noted Bangkok Pattaya since beginning of this year which confirm after two years visiting Doctors it was only suggested in April to him also coincidence they advertising it on their main walkway in the hospital. 

But curious if so many males have this common problem prior to Rezum what procedures were doctors doing in Thailand? 

[StevieAus]

13 hours ago, KannikaP said:

Are you talking about the whole Rezum operation?

An earlier poster I think it was Klong Song stated it had only been available here since January 2022 perhaps he was talking about Public Hospitals.

I was responding to a poster who was suggesting that it is no longer cheaper for people to have medical procedures carried out privately in Thailand than the UK which I find hard to believe.

[KannikaP]

1 hour ago, StevieAus said:

An earlier poster I think it was Klong Song stated it had only been available here since January 2022 perhaps he was talking about Public Hospitals.

I was responding to a poster who was suggesting that it is no longer cheaper for people to have medical procedures carried out privately in Thailand than the UK which I find hard to believe.

Sorry I thought it was you who said you had it done, in & out in 2 hours incl X ray etc for £35.

[StevieAus]

4 hours ago, KannikaP said:

Sorry I thought it was you who said you had it done, in & out in 2 hours incl X ray etc for £35.

No I was responding to someone else and as a comparison

on costs mentioned what it cost me to see a specialist, x Ray and blood test equivalent of about about 35 UK pounds.

I had never heard of this other procedure and hope I never require it.

[Klong Song]

On 8/10/2022 at 3:49 PM, xylophone said:

It is a procedure designed to combat BPH, by widening the passage in the prostate, through which the urethra passes (actually they are part and parcel of the same thing) which of course can cause water retention, and it is an alternative to the long used TURP procedure.

 

Somebody posted that person will have to get the procedure done after 4/5 years, but the poster would have been better saying that someone MAY have to get the procedure repeated down the line. Actually, even with a TURP, which reams out the prostate, it can grow back again and sometimes the operation is required nine or 10 years down the track, so nothing is guaranteed.

 

There is a poster on one of the Prostate threads who had the Rezum operation done, and although it didn't go too well for him early on in the piece, he has reported back that it has settled down and he is peeing almost normally again.

 

I've researched all of the options, this after having a TURP, and a BNI, which still did not alleviate all of my problems, and if water retention was a problem for me I would go after the Urolift or iTind procedures. As it is, I have a neurogenic bladder which doesn't empty fully and cannot be rectified by the two procedures I've mentioned, so I am now adept at using a catheter, which wasn't where I would want to be at my time of life!
 

Hi xylophone, I think iTind is available in Thailand now as well. I’m going to see my urologist in a couple of weeks and will ask him about this procedure as well.

[SantiSuk]

On 8/10/2022 at 11:42 AM, StevieAus said:

I don’t know if this procedure is considered expensive in Thailand because it’s relatively new but I think you will find many others are not.

I recently saw a specialist at a private hospital,  the total fee which included an X Ray and blood test was the equivalent of 35 UK pounds, all wrapped up within less than two hours.

Yes consulting a specialist here in Thailand is good value. Even Bumrungrad you could expect to come away with a bill of less than 2,000 baht plus any imaging or other test  procedures for an initial consultation with a leading practitioner. [major operations are no cheaper than the UK these days. 5 to 10 years ago I was several times pared back by my company-funded UK insurer with the comment that they were overcharging].

[The Hammer2021]

On 8/10/2022 at 8:51 AM, Lacessit said:

IMO how well the procedure works and any side effects are very much in the hands of the urologist/surgeon doing the operation.

Which means in a public hospital the doctor may not be as well qualified or experienced.

The doctors  in public  hospitals will be more  experienced  or more likely  justb the same doctors from the  private hospitals. My understanding  is that  most doctors  at private hospitals also put in work at public hospitals.

[jak2002003]

39 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

The doctors  in public  hospitals will be more  experienced  or more likely  justb the same doctors from the  private hospitals. My understanding  is that  most doctors  at private hospitals also put in work at public hospitals.

You are 100 percent right there.  

 

People are easily duped into paying more at a fancy private hospital....the same doctor also doing the rounds at public hospitals in the same area.  

 

But they are paying for the fancy decorating and staff papering them at the private hospitals. ....which has nothing to do with with actual medical work or recovery.

[The Hammer2021]

1 hour ago, jak2002003 said:

You are 100 percent right there.  

 

People are easily duped into paying more at a fancy private hospital....the same doctor also doing the rounds at public hospitals in the same area.  

 

But they are paying for the fancy decorating and staff papering them at the private hospitals. ....which has nothing to do with with actual medical work or recovery.

Less waiting time, faster service,  better environment, English  language etc  but the principal treatment  will be the same I believe

[StevieAus]

7 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

You are 100 percent right there.  

 

People are easily duped into paying more at a fancy private hospital....the same doctor also doing the rounds at public hospitals in the same area.  

 

But they are paying for the fancy decorating and staff papering them at the private hospitals. ....which has nothing to do with with actual medical work or recovery.

Have you walked through a public hospital recently, seen the people crammed  together in wards, the standard of cleanliness, the waiting times etc.

Its a lot more than fancy decorating.

You stick with the government hospitals and I will continue to be pampered by the private system.

 

[Lacessit]

8 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

The doctors  in public  hospitals will be more  experienced  or more likely  justb the same doctors from the  private hospitals. My understanding  is that  most doctors  at private hospitals also put in work at public hospitals.

You may be right, they will certainly see more patients and get more experience in a public hospital. My understanding is many doctors have private clinics as well as a practice in a public or private hospital.

I would make a distinction between experience and skill. Google Jayant Patel to see why.

 

[jak2002003]

8 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Less waiting time, faster service,  better environment, English  language etc  but the principal treatment  will be the same I believe

The public hospitals I have been too were all very good. Doctors all spoke English and there were no long waiting times.  

 

But, I did go to a very small local hospital where the staff did not speak much English...but I can speak some Thai so it was not a problem...and the nurses and staff were the friendliest and put me at ease out of any hospital I have been too...(I have a bit of a phobia of hospitals)

 

I also went to a new private hospital to get my COVID vaccines and, although the service was good, there seemed to be only one nurse who could speak English in the entire place.

 

I guess they are all different.  Personally I would choose a large well known government hospital over a private one...as I believe that the service, treatment are the same as a private one, and the cost is much less.