Justice Department makes redacted Mar-a-Lago affidavit public

[Excel]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Does the pope defecate in the woods? Is a bear catholic?

Well guess the answer is yes then

[billd766]

4 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

What Trump has said about handling classified documents...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThCMjd7irLM

 

Hoisted by his own petard. Aside from historical references to siege warfare, and occasional contemporary references to fireworks, petard is almost always encountered in variations of the phrase "hoist with one's own petard," meaning "victimized or hurt by one's own scheme."

 

In his own words, saved for posterity and freely available on YouTube.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

Hoisted by his own petard. Aside from historical references to siege warfare, and occasional contemporary references to fireworks, petard is almost always encountered in variations of the phrase "hoist with one's own petard," meaning "victimized or hurt by one's own scheme."

 

In his own words, saved for posterity and freely available on YouTube.

Not to mention making his own crime a felony offense. Schadenfreude.

[Bkk Brian]

Good example of the concerns on who was able to make their way into Mar-a-lago

 

The FBI has launched an investigation into a Russian-speaking Ukrainian immigrant named Inna Yashchyshyn, who allegedly posed as a member of the Rothschild banking family to gain access to former President Donald Trump's inner circle at Mar-a-Lago, according to reporting from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project.

 

The FBI investigation appears focused on whether Yashchyshyn was part of a broader criminal network that attempted to make inroads with politicians and businessmen, according to the report–investigators have reportedly obtained two fake “Anna de Rothschild” passports as part of the probe.

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20220827005006/https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2022/08/26/russian-speaking-immigrant-allegedly-entered-mar-a-lago-using-fake-identity-met-with-trump-report-says/

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2022/08/26/russian-speaking-immigrant-allegedly-entered-mar-a-lago-using-fake-identity-met-with-trump-report-says/

[ozimoron]

'Petty man' Trump shredded by former prosecutor for endangering US intelligence for personal gain

 

But according to former federal prosecutor Joyce Vance on Twitter, whether Trump actually did declassify the documents is beside the broader point: that the former president had no basis for doing so except his personal whim, and that U.S. intelligence and national security was put at risk by that whim.

 

"Even if Trump did declassify documents (which DOJ seems to doubt) that doesn't mean the information in them somehow became unimportant," wrote Vance. "It means that a small, petty man abused the power of the presidency and exposed the country and individuals collecting intelligence to grave risks."

 

https://www.rawstory.com/petty-trump/

 

 

[LarrySR]

Undoubtedly the indictment is incoming. 
If the arrogant fool had fully cooperated and returned all of the records to NARA last year, this likely never would have become a criminal matter.

DOJ would have declined to take any action.
Just another story in the Trump saga of incompetence.

[BonMot]

3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

He did not fully cooperate, had he then he would not be in a mess of his own making, but then that is your own Donald...

Oh, I see... and therein lies the problem.

 

He didn't FULLY cooperate.

 

This is a witch-hunt and nothing will come of it. It distracts Trump and any energies he might have to run again toward this kerfuffle. It's just another Steele dossier, Russia hoax, etc..

 

Oh, I'm taking wagers. Nothing. All of you are just wasting your time as the liars waste Trump's.

[BonMot]

I don't even like Trump. Think he's a buffoon and bombastic moron.

[LarrySR]

15 minutes ago, BonMot said:

I don't own a television. In fact, I've only owned three in my entire life. Stereotype much?

 

I don't even like Trump. Think he's a buffoon and bombastic moron.

You do a pretty good Alex Jones impression with your posts.

[candide]

1 hour ago, BonMot said:

Oh, I see... and therein lies the problem.

 

He didn't FULLY cooperate.

 

This is a witch-hunt and nothing will come of it. It distracts Trump and any energies he might have to run again toward this kerfuffle. It's just another Steele dossier, Russia hoax, etc..

 

Oh, I'm taking wagers. Nothing. All of you are just wasting your time as the liars waste Trump's.

You should read The Nationl Review, ????

 

"Given that the former president was not responsibly securing the government’s most closely held intelligence, that he was trying to prevent the FBI from examining what he’d returned, that his lawyers were either misinformed about or lying about the classified information still retained at Mar-a-Lago, and that even the issuance of a grand-jury subpoena (with potential criminal penalties for noncompliance) had not succeeded in getting Trump to hand over the remaining classified information, what option short of a search warrant would have sufficed?"

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/08/trump-worlds-mar-a-lago-offensive-backfires/

[LosLobo]

1 hour ago, BonMot said:

Oh, I see... and therein lies the problem.

 

He didn't FULLY cooperate.

 

This is a witch-hunt and nothing will come of it. It distracts Trump and any energies he might have to run again toward this kerfuffle. It's just another Steele dossier, Russia hoax, etc..

 

Oh, I'm taking wagers. Nothing. All of you are just wasting your time as the liars waste Trump's.

Another Steele dossier, Russia Hoax, etc?

 

Yet the Trump appointed Horowitz found that the Steele Dossier probe was justified.

 

Both US Congress and Manafort recently admitted that the Trump 2016 Campaign did collude with the Russians.

 

A unredacted report from Barr's DOJ released this week, showed that Barr lied about the Mueller Report. The Mueller Report stated that Trump was guilty of obstruction and could be charged and that there was also evidence that he did collude with the Russians.

 

I would suggest that the average intelligent critical thinker could only come to one logical conclusion. ie Trump was lying when he called the Russian collusion a hoax.

 

 

 

Edited August 27, 2022 by LosLobo

[BonMot]

1 minute ago, LosLobo said:

Another Steele dossier, Russia Hoax, etc?

 

Yet the Trump appointed Horowitz found that the Steele dossier probe was justified.

 

Both US Congress and Manafort recently admitted that the Trump 2016 Campaign did collude with the Russians.

 

A unredacted report from Barr's DOJ released this week, showed that Barr lied about the Mueller Report. The Mueller Report stated that Trump was guilty of obstruction and could be charged and that there was also evidence that he did collude with the Russians.

 

I would suggest that the average intelligent critical thinker could only come to one logical conclusion. ie Trump was lying when he called the Russian collusion a hoax.

 

 

 

Then why isn't he in jail or have suffered any legal recourse?

 

Because it's BS

 

Sleepwalking...

[LosLobo]

Just now, BonMot said:

Then why isn't he in jail or have suffered any legal recourse?

 

Because it's BS

 

Sleepwalking...

The mills of the law grind slowly but they grind exceeding fine!

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, BonMot said:

Then why isn't he in jail or have suffered any legal recourse?

 

Because it's BS

 

Sleepwalking...

An ongoing investigation by the FBI is BS because they haven't brought charges? LOL.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, BonMot said:

Then why isn't he in jail or have suffered any legal recourse?

 

Because it's BS

 

Sleepwalking...

I suggest a little more patience.

 

Justice is coming.

 

 

[BonMot]

On 8/27/2022 at 4:46 PM, LosLobo said:

The mills of the law grind slowly but they grind exceeding fine!

Hahaha not in this day and age bro. It's not law, it's politics for starts. Hit and run politics.

 

Does anyone here really believe Trump will face jail? They can't even stop him from running.

 

One thing I really admire about his supporters is that no matter what you throw at them they come back at you with their votes in your face. You're not even smart enough to see that.

 

The Democratic <deleted> should have just ignored him. De Santis would have the nomination. Now, you've <deleted> off tens of millions of voters...

Edited September 3, 2022 by onthedarkside
misinfo claims removed

[LosLobo]

9 minutes ago, BonMot said:

 

Because it's BS

 

Yet, I can support all of my claims with evidence!

Can you? ????

[metisdead]

Some off topic posts, troll posts and the replies have been removed.

[BonMot]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I suggest a little more patience.

 

Justice is coming.

 

 

Wager?

 

Timeline?

[ThailandRyan]

11 minutes ago, BonMot said:

Then why isn't he in jail or have suffered any legal recourse?

 

Because it's BS

 

Sleepwalking...

Still piling the evidence up my friend, still adding more to possibly incinerate his defense with....

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, BonMot said:

Wager?

 

Timeline?

Your in for a very rude awakening when the devils dues have to he paid...Trump is in a world of hurt, and I actually liked him as a conscience with all his frantic tweets.

[ozimoron]

On 8/27/2022 at 5:01 PM, BonMot said:

 

There's plenty of Trump haters that think he won't face jail. A smaller number believe he won't be convicted.

[jvs]

2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

He did not fully cooperate, had he then he would not be in a mess of his own making, but then that is your own Donald...

Why did he take them in the first place?

 

[Longwood50]

Even CNN said the first few pages contained some information and the remainder as shown here were "redacted" in other words you could not decipher anything.   If there is nothing to hide and a clear predicate why hide it. 

 

 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Longwood50 said:

Even CNN said the first few pages contained some information and the remainder as shown here were "redacted" in other words you could not decipher anything.   If there is nothing to hide and a clear predicate why hide it. 

Did you not read the FBI's explanation for the redactions? It would seem not from your post because you don't address what they said at all. Most people considered it a reasonable explanation. Why wouldn't you want to prevent witnesses from being killed by rabid right wingers who have already made thousands of death threats to FBI agents? Why wouldn't you not want to telegraph your possible prosecution strategy to the defense before a trial? It's extraordinary for the FBI to ever release the warrant before a trial. Do you not know that?

[ozimoron]

37 minutes ago, BonMot said:

The presidential election is based on an electoral college. Please consult wiki if need be.

 

While states cede all votes to the winner - they are still electoral votes and could in theory could be and have been contested and changed.

By what law could they have been changed?

[ozimoron]

36 minutes ago, jvs said:

Why did he take them in the first place?

He had a debt to repay to Putin for helping him swing the election.

[BonMot]

10 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

By what law could they have been changed?

No law. delegates are obligated to vote as their the constituent voters. Nevertheless, they can vote their conscious. In practice it rarely happens.

 

Most states model this but in reality it's merely a formality and the popular vote stands.

Edited August 27, 2022 by BonMot

[ozimoron]

Just now, BonMot said:

no law. delegates are obligated to vote as preducated by the constituent voters. Nevertheless, they can vote their conscious. In practice it rarely happens.

 

Most states model this but in reality it's merely a formality and the popular vote stands.

I understand there's a bipartisan bill in the works to mandate that they can't vote against the constituent vote.

[BonMot]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

I understand there's a bipartisan bill in the works to mandate that they can't vote against the constituent vote.

Who knows...

 

Bipartisan lol. Not surprised. That's why I'm Independent / Libertarian

 

At the presidental level that's just rubbish. It nulls the electoral college. Mob rule.

 

Electoral college does not really exist at state level. I think 40/50 states have popular vote even for senatoral elections now I think about it.