Enoch Powell, he wasnt wrong in his forecast !

[Kwasaki]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It hasn’t taken long for this topic to descend into racism, xenophobia and of course Islamophobia.

Well I'm still in fits of laughter at what you say, keep it up. ????

[billd766]

22 hours ago, ozimoron said:

The problem with the vocal minority is that they believe they are the silent majority. Most people think he was just a racist.

Most people of his era especially around where he lived thought he was pretty much correct. Even more so now.

 

22 hours ago, Excel said:

Ignorant racist ? Well well Enoch Powells academic achievements were quite outstanding which means he could hardly be called ignorant.  Now let's see, how do yours stack up against his so that we may have a fair comparison of the veracity of your comment ?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_Powell

Thank you for the link. It is a long read and to me it proved that Enoch Powell was a politician with principles compared to those of his colleagues at the time, and certainly with far more principles than the current politicians worldwide.

 

[proton]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Words have consequences.

 

The words of Racist Powell had consequences.

 

He was and remains defended and admired by racist.

 

Perhaps you’d like to forget the race attacks that were a part of British crime throughout the 60s and 70s.

 

 

Can you define racist and why you think he was?

[transam]

29 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It hasn’t taken long for this topic to descend into racism, xenophobia and of course Islamophobia.

 

 

 

How many of, Brigadier Enoch Powell MBE, thoughts were actually used in immigration law at the time....?

[proton]

31 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It hasn’t taken long for this topic to descend into racism, xenophobia and of course Islamophobia.

 

 

 

You missed out transphobia, bigots, toxic masculinity, terfs, incels, narcissists  and sociopaths, don't miss out any of the trendy put downs ????

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, proton said:

Can you define racist and why you think he was?

Powell defined racism as negro vs non-negro. That completely exposes his racist agenda right there.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, proton said:

You missed out transphobia, bigots, toxic masculinity, terfs, incels, narcissists  and sociopaths, don't miss out any of the trendy put downs ????

You are not the subject of this thread.

[giddyup]

1 hour ago, Walker88 said:

Kind of funny to read expats in Thailand complaining about migrants to the UK.

We're paying our way and are here legitimately, not being breast fed by a nanny state.

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, transam said:

How many of, Brigadier Enoch Powell MBE, thoughts were actually used in immigration law at the time....?

Another strawman argument 

[ozimoron]

14 minutes ago, transam said:

How many of, Brigadier Enoch Powell MBE, thoughts were actually used in immigration law at the time....?

Powell has been hoisted onto a pedestal by a racist right wing and co-opted as a rallying symbol. Similar to statues of Robert E Lee and a number of other infamous individuals in modern history.

Edited September 2, 2022 by ozimoron

[proton]

30 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Powell has been hoisted onto a pedestal by a racist right wing and co-opted as a rallying symbol. Similar to statues of Robert E Lee and a number of other infamous individuals in modern history.

Again, define racist and explain why he was!

[Chomper Higgot]

20 minutes ago, proton said:

Again, define racist and explain why he was!

The definition of Racist is already in the dictionary.

 

An example of Powell’s racist arguments has already been given.

 

Refer dictionary and posts in this thread.

 

(Or do you need definitions of ‘refer’, dictionary’, ‘thread’?).

[proton]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

The definition of Racist is already in the dictionary.

 

An example of Powell’s racist arguments has already been given.

 

Refer dictionary and posts in this thread.

 

(Or do you need definitions of ‘refer’, dictionary’, ‘thread’?).

You can't answer then fair enough!

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, proton said:

You can't answer then fair enough!

I did answer.

 

If you need English tuition look elsewhere.

[CG1 Blue]

8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

More to do with rapid waistline growth and the ‘Baby Boom’ generation (the clue is in the name) getting old.

 

Young immigrants don’t tend to use the health service until they are old and many do not stay that long.

 

You can't ignore immigration as being part of the reason our services are struggling in the UK. 

 

Some migration is necessary, but we're averaging around 300,000 net migration per year, that's a 3 million increase in the population every 10 years. And that doesn't include those migrants who are coming in under the radar. 

 

That would put a strain on any infrastructure. 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, CG1 Blue said:

You can't ignore immigration as being part of the reason our services are struggling in the UK. 

 

Some migration is necessary, but we're averaging around 300,000 net migration per year, that's a 3 million increase in the population every 10 years. And that doesn't include those migrants who are coming in under the radar. 

 

That would put a strain on any infrastructure. 

Surely that’s a matter of Government not allocating resources in accordance with population?

 

They are after all collecting more taxes on the increased economic activity.

 

Or is it a matter of the Government failing on multiple fronts so let’s start blaming immigrants?

 

Afterall, they’ve been in power for twelve years and, despite lots of promises and a great deal of noise, haven’t sorted this out yet.

 

[transam]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Another strawman argument 

Another unanswered question dodge from you....????

[transam]

55 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I did answer.

 

If you need English tuition look elsewhere.

You are dodging questions, plain and simple......????

[transam]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

Powell has been hoisted onto a pedestal by a racist right wing and co-opted as a rallying symbol. Similar to statues of Robert E Lee and a number of other infamous individuals in modern history.

So what, is that anything to do with Brigadier Enoch Powell MBE in person...?

 

Plus, please tell me any of the man's thoughts that became British immigration law, my question keeps getting dodged....?

[NanLaew]

3 hours ago, PremiumLane said:

On 9/1/2022 at 4:36 AM, Kwasaki said:

Remember parts of Wembley and Willesden were no go areas 60 years ago. 

hahaha where did you pull that 'fact' from?

Pulled from a very dark, dank place. Hairy too.

 

Probably.

 

3 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

3 hours ago, PremiumLane said:

hahaha where did you pull that 'fact' from?

Well did you live near there as I did or not. ?

The estate in Wembley was well know and has been pulled down and rebuilt on for years now. 

Oh. So you shave there as well?

 

Marvelous.

 

 

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

Most people of his era especially around where he lived thought he was pretty much correct. Even more so now.

Are you living 'around where he lived' now?

 

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

Thank you for the link. It is a long read and to me it proved that Enoch Powell was a politician with principles compared to those of his colleagues at the time, and certainly with far more principles than the current politicians worldwide.

Oh darn and blast! Another muddle-headed convert.

 

[proton]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I did answer.

 

If you need English tuition look elsewhere.

No you did not you merely claimed discussion of negros and immigration made him a 'racist'. When he was in Egypt he left a restaurant in protest when they would not serve a native he was with when they had a white only policy. Some racist!

[brewsterbudgen]

3 hours ago, proton said:

Depends whose data you are looking at, they are not a net benefit if you look at what they take out and cost into account. Muslims are always staging demos over school teachers they disaprove of, including death threats, or films like the lady of heaven. They harass and have even stabbed people at speakers corner for exposing the lies in the Quran. They are offended by everything but ashamed of nothing!

 

Are Islamophobic posts tolerated here? It would seem so!

[Kwasaki]

7 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Pulled from a very dark, dank place. Hairy too.

 

Probably.

 

Oh. So you shave there as well?

 

Marvelous.

 

 

Try getting off the drugs. 

[proton]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Surely that’s a matter of Government not allocating resources in accordance with population?

 

They are after all collecting more taxes on the increased economic activity.

 

Or is it a matter of the Government failing on multiple fronts so let’s start blaming immigrants?

 

Afterall, they’ve been in power for twelve years and, despite lots of promises and a great deal of noise, haven’t sorted this out yet.

 

So you expect the taxpayer to fork out for council housing, education and health care for endless millions who turn up as they are better off in the UK than at home? Not sustainable in the long run, and not for some time past.

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, proton said:

You missed out transphobia, bigots, toxic masculinity, terfs, incels, narcissists  and sociopaths, don't miss out any of the trendy put downs ????

Nowt as trendy as woke, eh soft lad?

Edited September 2, 2022 by NanLaew

[proton]

5 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Are Islamophobic posts tolerated here? It would seem so!

Islamaphobic is an invented word to shut down any discussion of Islam. Phobia is an irrational fear, fear of Islam is hardly irrational when there have been over 4k jihadist terror attacks since 9/11. The events I mentioned actually happened, think it's better to pretend they never did?

Edited September 2, 2022 by proton

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, giddyup said:

We're paying our way and are here legitimately, not being breast fed by a nanny state.

Not so fast there Tonto.

 

Hands up those who are using immigration agents?

[transam]

2 minutes ago, proton said:

So you expect the taxpayer to fork out for council housing, education and health care for endless millions who turn up as they are better off in the UK than at home? Not sustainable in the long run, and not for some time past.

They never think of the costs, but always blast the government about financial problems, typical lefty stuff....

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

1 hour ago, proton said:

Again, define racist and explain why he was!

The definition of Racist is already in the dictionary.

 

An example of Powell’s racist arguments has already been given.

 

Refer dictionary and posts in this thread.

 

(Or do you need definitions of ‘refer’, dictionary’, ‘thread’?).

Easier to offer him a mirror maybe?