German claims he was warned off by police from pursuing his political protests against acting PM

[kwilco]

3 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

First sentence: 100% agree. The second sentence depends on the individual situation. Anyone who has a business here, has a Thai family, has children together, has settled in Thailand for a long time, pays taxes, etc. is more or less affected by political decisions.

Anyone living and working here is to some extent deporting this militaristic regime.... they are ci doing all its actions .... unless there something about it.

 

Anyone living and working here is to some extent deporting this militaristic regime.... they are ci doing all its actions .... unless there something about it.

[emanphoto]

9 hours ago, ftpjtm said:

Thailand is not his (or my) country. We're just guests who can't vote.

Because that's all they'll let us be. ☹️

[transam]

21 minutes ago, Red Forever said:

Ok I geddit: we're guests here as so many posters remind us but hey, it may be their country but it's our world.

Many travellers have imparted knowledge to poor countries by way of technology, civil engineering and helped rid countries of dictatorship.

Not saying this guy went about it the right way but to blithely trot out the old "we're only guests" line is to perpetuate the status quo whereby nothing changes.

I thought it was a case of "Mind Your Own Business" in somebody else's country, I mean, would you stand in Moscow wiv a picy of Putin with a red cross on it....?  ????

[richard_smith237]

Just now, transam said:

I thought it was a case of "Mind Your Own Business" in somebody else's country, I mean, would you stand in Moscow wiv a picy of Putin with a red cross on it....?  ????

Many of us come from countries where there is freedom of expression - Thailand and Russia does not have these same freedoms.

 

It's somewhat ironic that those countries where these freedoms are suppressed are the very countries where these individual acts of protest are more important. 

 

Part of those freedoms include the irrelevance of race, nationality, gender etc of the person protesting or voicing opinion. 

 

IMO there is far more wrong with the suppression of protest than the act of protest itself, no matter who is protesting. 

 

 

 

 

[tomacht8]

33 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Many of us come from countries where there is freedom of expression - Thailand and Russia does not have these same freedoms.

 

It's somewhat ironic that those countries where these freedoms are suppressed are the very countries where these individual acts of protest are more important. 

 

Part of those freedoms include the irrelevance of race, nationality, gender etc of the person protesting or voicing opinion. 

 

IMO there is far more wrong with the suppression of protest than the act of protest itself, no matter who is protesting. 

 

 

 

 

I feel the same way. It is clear how best to behave within the given freedom framework of a country without encountering any problems. In the worst case, you are not allowed to say anything more publicly and have to accept any idiotic rubbish without complaint, even if you are negatively affected by it.

 

But it also makes sense to question the given freedom framework. And this framework of freedom to express one's opinion openly is becoming narrower and more and more curtailed. Unfortunately.

[The Hammer2021]

Germany is riddled with political problems- let him go back there. No foreigners should get involved  in politics in Thailand-

[The Hammer2021]

7 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

I feel the same way. It is clear how best to behave within the given freedom framework of a country without encountering any problems. In the worst case, you are not allowed to say anything more publicly and have to accept any idiotic rubbish without complaint, even if you are negatively affected by it.

 

But it also makes sense to question the given freedom framework. And this framework of freedom to express one's opinion openly is becoming narrower and more and more curtailed. Unfortunately.

Try and campaign against immigration in Germany  and see  what happens

[transam]

4 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

I feel the same way. It is clear how best to behave within the given freedom framework of a country without encountering any problems. In the worst case, you are not allowed to say anything more publicly and have to accept any idiotic rubbish without complaint, even if you are negatively affected by it.

 

But it also makes sense to question the given freedom framework. And this framework of freedom to express one's opinion openly is becoming narrower and more and more curtailed. Unfortunately.

In LOS we farangy's are near all non-immigrants, aliens, guests, I think it obvious you don't start slagging the place or its governance off unless you are looking for trouble........????

[metisdead]

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[tomacht8]

28 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Try and campaign against immigration in Germany  and see  what happens

That's easy. There are many legal avenues of action open against a decision by the immigration authorities.

The legal systems differ significantly from each other.

[tomacht8]

33 minutes ago, transam said:

In LOS we farangy's are near all non-immigrants, aliens, guests, I think it obvious you don't start slagging the place or its governance off unless you are looking for trouble........????

That is clear if you want to stay in Thailand without any problems. You adapt and have a low profile if possible.

I guess there is a general consensus on this in the forum.

 

The possibility of free expression of opinion is restricted and for foreigners, as can be seen in this case, even more.

 

And you may or may not be critical of that.

[transam]

1 minute ago, tomacht8 said:

That is clear if you want to stay in Thailand without any problems. You adapt and have a low profile if possible.

I guess there is a general consensus on this in the forum.

 

The possibility of free expression of opinion is restricted and for foreigners, as can be seen in this case, even more.

 

And you may or may not be critical of that.

Yes, that's why I think this bloke is a sandwich short of a picnic....

[Orinoco]

Better watch out.

 

[The Hammer2021]

27 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

That's easy. There are many legal avenues of action open against a decision by the immigration authorities.

The legal systems differ significantly from each other.

Those who campaign on certain  issues are sidelined, denigrated, banned, labelled and silenced and the best  example of this is suppression of dissent and the  discussion about Islamic immigration, misogyny,  streetcrime,  harassment and a whole  host of ills. In particular the voice of German  girls and women has been silenced.

 

[tomacht8]

14 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Those who campaign on certain  issues are sidelined, denigrated, banned, labelled and silenced and the best  example of this is suppression of dissent and the  discussion about Islamic immigration, misogyny,  streetcrime,  harassment and a whole  host of ills. In particular the voice of German  girls and women has been silenced.

 

This is your perception. My perception is different. The German government has an office for integration and foreigner policy since more than 30 years. To name just one difference. Foreigners in Germany are allowed to speak their mind publicly without fear of reprisals. Whole talk shows in German television make a living from it.

 

However, Islamic hate preachers who publicly call for violence and the overthrow of the state are forbidden. Freedom of expression has its limits. And that's good.

Edited September 3, 2022 by tomacht8

[The Hammer2021]

16 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

This is your perception. My perception is different. The German government has an office for integration and foreigner policy since more than 30 years. To name just one difference. Foreigners in Germany are allowed to speak their mind publicly without fear of reprisals. Whole talk shows in German television make a living from it.

 

However, Islamic hate preachers who publicly call for violence and the overthrow of the state are forbidden. Freedom of expression has its limits. And that's good.

https://townhall.com/columnists/ianhaworth/2019/12/02/angela-merkel-and-german-freedom-of-speech-n2557309

 

[tomacht8]

17 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

https://townhall.com/columnists/ianhaworth/2019/12/02/angela-merkel-and-german-freedom-of-speech-n2557309

 

What is the evidence? The article says exactly what I described. Freedom of expression has its limits where hatred and violence are incited.

[mushroomdave]

New lottery for the Thais.....Pick the date (or flight #) he boards for his flight out after his blacklisting!!   ????????????

[tgw]

foreigners should not involve themselves in their host country's politics. I think that's a sensible rule.

[DjSilver]

These treats from the Thai Police only shows that Thailand is a Banana Republic Dictatorship.

[Zack61]

11 hours ago, klauskunkel said:

 

I side with him

Me too

[happysoul]

It was maybe already said as I didn't read all the 5 pages but ...

 

Once deported, he should go do the same in North Korea and report how he was able to improve the life of NK citizens ????

[Yme]

Hopefully he's got enough saved for his Winter energy bill when he gets back home. 

[Gerard052]

5 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Germany is riddled with political problems- let him go back there. No foreigners should get involved  in politics in Thailand-

Germany is riddled with political problems?  Which planet do you live on?

[Gerard052]

9 hours ago, transam said:

The German is a complete fool, to be avoided like the plague....

He got the right idea.

[Gerard052]

11 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

He's not going to last until his next visa extension. He's not some big shot internationally known journalist...

Nothing is going to happen.

[Gerard052]

11 hours ago, Formaleins said:

The level of the English language on this site makes me think you are all Germans!

It sounds like it.

[Lorry]

10 hours ago, dddave said:

If Germany is like the US, NOT a free trip.  If the US has to cover a deportation, they will hound the deportee and his relatives until it is paid back...and it's not a discount ticket.

If you get deported from Thailand,  you have to pay for the ticket first. The time until your flight you spend in IDC.

If you don't have money you wait in IDC until someone pays for you.

There are people in IDC waiting for years. 

 

The German goverment will not pay.

Deportation is not a free ticket. 

[Gerard052]

11 hours ago, steven100 said:

this pumpkin is asking for trouble ......    his thai wife must be embarrassed that's for sure.

what a plonker  ! 

Why should she be?

[Gerard052]

11 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

He's got a screw loose.

 

I wouldn't even bother doing that with a detested politician in my own country.

 

Fruitless waist of time. 

Which country are you from?