Russia appreciates Thailand's understanding of reasons behind special operation — Lavrov

[voulez vous]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Really, any other whacky conspiracy media you visit. Please don't ask anyone here to listen to this trash.

 

Author/Editor/Owner: Brian Gerrish British conspiracy theorist

Editor: David Noakes Convicted pharmceutical scammer

"A common theme in the site’s reporting is that such entities are conspiring to bind the UK to the will of the European Union, are engaged in the trafficking of children, and are working to silence dissent."

https://littlesis.org/org/335282-UK_Column

Brian Gerrish is not a "British conspiracy theorist".

 

The show gives a fair assessment of the state of play in all the news items.

 

As with many of the independent news outlets it gets a 'bad press' from many of the paid hit sites. George Galloway's show twice a week is also a good watch for the truth..

Edited September 11, 2022 by voulez vous

[rudi49jr]

20 minutes ago, voulez vous said:

Brian Gerrish is not a "British conspiracy theorist".

 

The show gives a fair assessment of the state of play in all the news items.

 

As with many of the independent news outlets it gets a 'bad press' from many of the paid hit sites. George Galloway's show twice a week is also a good watch for the truth..

You admire some real whackjobs:

 

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Brian_Gerrish

 

https://www.indy100.com/politics/who-is-george-galloway-batley-spen-b1876914

[voulez vous]

3 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

You admire some real whackjobs:

 

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Brian_Gerrish

 

https://www.indy100.com/politics/who-is-george-galloway-batley-spen-b1876914

Who said I admire anyone?

 

George Galloway is a respected leader of a UK political party. I don't always agree with him; but there is no doubting his integrity.

 

I like to take in different aspects of news stories. If I just watched the BBC or Sky, I'd finish up as ignorant, dumb and ill-informed as many.

 

Well done the Thais for seeing sense.

 

 

[JimmyJ]

6 minutes ago, voulez vous said:

Who said I admire anyone?

 

George Galloway is a respected leader of a UK political party. I don't always agree with him; but there is no doubting his integrity.

 

I like to take in different aspects of news stories. If I just watched the BBC or Sky, I'd finish up as ignorant, dumb and ill-informed as many.

 

Well done the Thais for seeing sense.

 

 

"If I just watched the BBC or Sky, I'd finish up as ignorant, dumb and ill-informed as many."

 

Hear, hear!

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31 minutes ago, voulez vous said:

Who said I admire anyone?

 

George Galloway is a respected leader of a UK political party. I don't always agree with him; but there is no doubting his integrity.

 

I like to take in different aspects of news stories. If I just watched the BBC or Sky, I'd finish up as ignorant, dumb and ill-informed as many.

 

Well done the Thais for seeing sense.

 

 

Not sure how respected he is:

Galloway charity ‘may have delivered no aid despite £1m donations’

A charity fronted by the former MP George Galloway may not have conducted any charitable activity or distributed any humanitarian aid despite claiming to have gathered £1m in public donations, according to an investigation from the charity regulator.

Viva Palestina was established in early 2009 and launched a large-scale media fundraising campaign to finance aid convoys to Gaza from the UK, bringing food, medicine, medical equipment and essential goods and services...

But investigators from the Charity Commission found that the charity’s trustees (who did not include Galloway) failed in the basic requirement to keep receipts and records of income and expenditure and never submitted any accounts.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/06/galloway-charity-may-have-delivered-no-aid-despite-1m-donations

Edited September 11, 2022 by placeholder

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, voulez vous said:

Brian Gerrish is not a "British conspiracy theorist".

Yes he is, a classic Alex Jones wanna be after appearing on his show a few times

Overall, we rate the UK Column a strong right-wing biased conspiracy website that frequently promotes false or misleading information.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/uk-column/

 

1 hour ago, voulez vous said:

The show gives a fair assessment of the state of play in all the news items.

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1 hour ago, voulez vous said:

As with many of the independent news outlets it gets a 'bad press' from many of the paid hit sites. George Galloway's show twice a week is also a good watch for the truth..

George Galloway oh lordy...................................

 

The Twitter account of George Galloway has been labelled “Russia state-affiliated media” – and the former Labour MP is furious about it.

Galloway, who presented the Mother of All Talk Shows on Radio Sputnik, which is owned by the Kremlin, said he would sue the social media giant over the marking.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/george-galloway-twitter-russia_uk_624ddd56e4b0981745095c04

 

Hey its fun centering text eh, makes it all so much more important................not

Edited September 11, 2022 by Bkk Brian

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The advances keep coming

 

"Local officials in the Kharkiv region say the Ukrainian flag has been raised in settlements close to the Russian border, confirming the continuing retreat of Russian forces in the area.

Oleksandr Kulik, an official in Derhachi northeast of the city of Kharkiv, said that the Ukrainian flag had been raised by local residents in the town of Kozacha Lopan...

It is five kilometers from the Russian border and has been extensively damaged during the conflict."

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-09-11-22/index.html

[coolcarer]

48 minutes ago, JimmyJ said:

"If I just watched the BBC or Sky, I'd finish up as ignorant, dumb and ill-informed as many."

 

Hear, hear!

Who here said they just watch the BBC or Sky? 

[coolcarer]

58 minutes ago, voulez vous said:

 

 

Well done the Thais for seeing sense.

 

 

I know your easily taken in but show me a quote from the Thai’s on this OP

[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, voulez vous said:

Well done the Thais for seeing sense.

If seeing sense is looking the other way when a fascist bully state invades a democracy and commits the most atrocious war crimes on a daily basis in the process, then the Thais are indeed seeing sense. Nothing to be very proud of, though. 

[paul1804]

Hang your head in shame Thailand, just like your stance on Burma. Wait until you get invaded  by china or the likes and you will then realise the error in your ways!!!

[The Old Bull]

On 9/9/2022 at 4:49 PM, KhaoYai said:

Western propaganda?  Is it a lie that Russia invaded Ukraine then? A lie that they also invaded Crimea in 2014?  It may interest you to know that most of the West's news outlet's and media services are free to report whatever they wish.  Unlike Russia's which is completely managed and controlled. Putin and the majority (it seems) of his citizens live in their own, totally paranoid, parallel reality.

 

Its not so long ago that Russia was welcomed back into the fold of nations and it seemed that peace was finally in sight for most of the world.  Putin is a thug and a murderer who aligns himself with other's similar to himself - look what he's done is Syria, supporting that tyrant Assad.

 

Now name one Western country that is currently waging war against another, killing thousands, if not millions of people.  The West may not be perfect but its not on a bloodthirsty power crusade.

What a load of rubbish. The Crimea chose to go with Russia. The USA is waging war all over the place with 150 overseas bases. How many did they murder in Iraq and Afghanistan? Still in Syria stealing oil. Can't bear to see China getting ahead, dreaming up all kinds of ways to screw them. Truly an evil pox on the world. I have friends just returned from the Ukraine ,they welcome the Russians coming to run off the gangsters currently running the country.

[The Old Bull]

Thailand finally got it right.

[jacko45k]

21 hours ago, JoseThailand said:

Every day another $1bn flows into Russia from oil and gas exports. Thanks to the countries that are still buying from them.

Did they reopen the gas lines......?

[ThailandRyan]

7 hours ago, The Old Bull said:

Thailand finally got it right.

Got what right? Siding with another dictator......yes that they did. Gotta protect your own pockets regardless of the indiscriminate killing of women and children the Russian troops are doing.

[joecoolfrog]

10 hours ago, voulez vous said:

Brian Gerrish is not a "British conspiracy theorist".

 

The show gives a fair assessment of the state of play in all the news items.

 

As with many of the independent news outlets it gets a 'bad press' from many of the paid hit sites. George Galloway's show twice a week is also a good watch for the truth..

Lol , Galloway is a washed up politician who is basicly as biased and dishonest as its possible to be.

Its your perogative to believe , or pretend to believe , anything you wish.

However confirmation bias does not equate to a logical search for the truth.

By all means ignore facts from verified sources , indulge the conspiracy peddlers and propagandists , just dont expect the clued up majority to swallow the nonsense you parrot.

[Bkk Brian]

8 hours ago, The Old Bull said:

What a load of rubbish. The Crimea chose to go with Russia. The USA is waging war all over the place with 150 overseas bases. How many did they murder in Iraq and Afghanistan? Still in Syria stealing oil. Can't bear to see China getting ahead, dreaming up all kinds of ways to screw them. Truly an evil pox on the world. I have friends just returned from the Ukraine ,they welcome the Russians coming to run off the gangsters currently running the country.

What a load of old Bull

[Bkk Brian]

It can be a pleasure to watch Russian State TV sometimes, this is one of those times. ???? Video highlights in link with English subs

 

Life comes at you fast: pundits on Russian TV realize that their military is failing and their country is in trouble. They are starting to play the blame game. Some of them finally understand that their genocidal denial of the Ukrainian identity isn't working in Russia's favor.

 

"We are now at the point that we know we cannot beat Ukraine"

 

I think Putin should rename this the Special Military Defeat Operation

Edited September 12, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[voulez vous]

57 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

Lol , Galloway is a washed up politician who is basicly as biased and dishonest as its possible to be.

Its your perogative to believe , or pretend to believe , anything you wish.

However confirmation bias does not equate to a logical search for the truth.

By all means ignore facts from verified sources , indulge the conspiracy peddlers and propagandists , just dont expect the clued up majority to swallow the nonsense you parrot.

Thanks for that Joe. George was on fire last night. Really cut loose.

 

 

[anandra]

when a russian opens his mouth he is already telling a lie.

[Bkk Brian]

15 minutes ago, voulez vous said:

Thanks for that Joe. George was on fire last night. Really cut loose.

 

 

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[voulez vous]

9 minutes ago, anandra said:

when a russian opens his mouth he is already telling a lie.

That's a bit simplistic Anandra. I had a Russian girl friend a few yeas ago. She was very truthful.

 

To get peace we have to see the truth. That is not the truth of CNN, Washington, Reuters or the BBC alone. We have to hear the other points of view. But even if we hear the other points of view, it seems to me that the west - and more specifically the US - have plans to turn this conflict into an Afghanistan or Vietnam for the Russians.

 

I now think the best hope for peace - and it grieves me to say, as my own country of birth is involved - is a winter of suffering across Europe. The people have to start having a say in what their leaders are doing in their name.

 

 

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, voulez vous said:

That's a bit simplistic Anandra. I had a Russian girl friend a few yeas ago. She was very truthful.

 

To get peace we have to see the truth. That is not the truth of CNN, Washington, Reuters or the BBC alone. We have to hear the other points of view. But even if we hear the other points of view, it seems to me that the west - and more specifically the US - have plans to turn this conflict into an Afghanistan or Vietnam for the Russians.

 

I now think the best hope for peace - and it grieves me to say, as my own country of birth is involved - is a winter of suffering across Europe. The people have to start having a say in what their leaders are doing in their name.

 

 

You need to find the middle ground and stop believing the propaganda pushed by media especially the genocidal Russian propaganda which daily states they are winning the war........even your new found hero Galloway is a bought and paid for propagandist....

[ThaSalaPaul]

3 minutes ago, voulez vous said:

The people have to start having a say in what their leaders are doing in their name.

 

 

They already do. It's called democracy. The only place people don't get to have a say in what leaders are doing in their name is of course Russia, where the opposite is true. Prison for those who speak out against the Russian regime

[voulez vous]

6 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

You need to find the middle ground and stop believing the propaganda pushed by media especially the genocidal Russian propaganda which daily states they are winning the war........even your new found hero Galloway is a bought and paid for propagandist....

As my English friend would say; "monumental humbug."

 

What middle ground might that be? We need to see the truth. That might not sit well with many, but it's been said many times; "The truth is the first casualty of war."

 

Could do a lot worse than watch George's independent show Ryan.. Link a few posts ago.

[voulez vous]

10 minutes ago, ThaSalaPaul said:

They already do. It's called democracy. The only place people don't get to have a say in what leaders are doing in their name is of course Russia, where the opposite is true. Prison for those who speak out against the Russian regime

Thanks for that Paul.

 

Democracy is an illusion. Virtually all western countries have a top down 'democracy'. The people are constantly being manipulated.

[ThaSalaPaul]

10 minutes ago, voulez vous said:

Thanks for that Paul.

 

Virtually all western countries have a top down 'democracy'. The people are constantly being manipulated.

Are you suggesting that the Russian people are NOT being manipulated? Are you saying that you prefer the Russian approach of making it illegal to criticise the government? What better alternative to top-down democracy do you propose? bottom-up (such as gilets-jaunes) which would result in chaos?

[voulez vous]

This thread is essentially about Thailand and Russia getting together to thrash out understandings - over maybe many different issues. One of those was Ukraine. It transpires that there is a an appreciation of the events leading up the 'special operation'  by Thailand.

 

Thailand is not in the west. It is part of the vast majority - both in land mass and numbers of people - that do not accept the US's line.

 

Quite a few posters cannot accept that their view on the conflict is a minority one. This view is, IMO, a war-mongering one. When an alternative point of view is promoted, it is quickly rubbished and the poster said to be a 'Putin apologist' or similar.

 

I want peace in Ukraine. And I also want the west to stop their incessant march towards totalism. Where only their system (the US hierarchy system)  is the right one. To quote a CIA boss a few years back; "Challenges will not be tolerated."

Edited September 12, 2022 by voulez vous

[ThailandRyan]

30 minutes ago, voulez vous said:

As my English friend would say; "monumental humbug."

 

What middle ground might that be? We need to see the truth. That might not sit well with many, but it's been said many times; "The truth is the first casualty of war."

 

Could do a lot worse than watch George's independent show Ryan.. Link a few posts ago.

It's laughable to listen to his propaganda.....he my friends is speaking for the Kremlin only

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, voulez vous said:

I want peace in Ukraine. And I also want the west to stop their incessant march towards totalism. Where only their system (the US hierarchy system)  is the right one. To quote a CIA boss a few years back; "Challenges will not be tolerated."

Putin can quickly create peace in Ukraine, go back to Russia, its his choice and was his choice to inflict suffering. Instead he's being kicked out with force, so be it.