School director in Twitter lashing after taking the kids football pitch and putting in a golf course for his politico chums

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Sanook Thai Caption: School director likes a round of golf

 

Tweeters went atwittering on Redskullxxx after a tweet about a school director in Thailand who turned his kids' football pitch into a golf course.

 

He claimed it was for their benefit but it emerged that many political pals were trotting up for a round.

 

In addition damning photos have emerged of the director allegedly using child labor - students at his school - to pour cement for the golf course, reported Sanook.

 

The school has countered the allegations saying that children who want a game of football can play at other schools - there's an ideal place 2 kilometers away. 

 

 

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[worgeordie]

If its a private school ,not much that can be done about it and him,

if public school it needs looking into.

regards Worgeordie

[jonclark]

If they want to play football they can play at another school. 

 

 

He later added that if they wish for an education they could go to that school as well as the 7th tee was particularly tricky and all the teachers need extra practice and couldn't teach.

[Bert got kinky]

 

He claimed it was for their benefit

Of course it is, I remember how proud when i got my GCE in 'pitch & putt'.

 

Unfortunately, I failed my A Levels in 'Golf studies' by going 7 over par.

 

[AsianAtHeart]

15 minutes ago, webfact said:

In addition damning photos have emerged of the director allegedly using child labor - students at his school - to pour cement for the golf course, reported Sanook.

Nothing "damning" about teaching children the value of manual labor.   The "damning" part of education in general, worldwide, is the focus on books over physical work.  Students get taught that work is demeaning.  A teacher I know who had just completed her education was hired due to her English superiority.  When asked to help clean her classroom, she refused, saying that's what janitors were hired for.

 

The school director who teaches the children to do practical work should be praised.

[jonclark]

3 minutes ago, AsianAtHeart said:

Nothing "damning" about teaching children the value of manual labor.   The "damning" part of education in general, worldwide, is the focus on books over physical work.  Students get taught that work is demeaning.  A teacher I know who had just completed her education was hired due to her English superiority.  When asked to help clean her classroom, she refused, saying that's what janitors were hired for.

 

The school director who teaches the children to do practical work should be praised.

At what point of the manual labour process was ' the value' taught to the students. 

 

The only value here as far as I can see is to the director. 

[ThailandRyan]

31 minutes ago, webfact said:

The school has countered the allegations saying that children who want a game of football can play at other schools - there's an ideal place 2 kilometers away. 

ah so then it is ok to build a golf course at your school.  Be right on over, how much for a round mister school director?  Money where, oh put it in an envelope and leave it on your desk, gotcha....

[AsianAtHeart]

5 minutes ago, jonclark said:

At what point of the manual labour process was ' the value' taught to the students. 

 

The only value here as far as I can see is to the director. 

In this particular case, you may be at least partially right.  I would still contend that the students getting some exercise would be a benefit to their health--most sit around on their phones these days if they have leisure time.

 

I know of a school, however, that was brought to court in the United States a few years ago, prosecuted by federal attorneys over complaints about the child labor laws--and the school won!  They had students, former students, parents, and community members all testifying on the school's side.  Students said having the work experience really helped them get jobs after graduation.  The judge, who dismissed the case with prejudice (meaning it was not allowed to be retried/appealed), remarked that he wished every school would teach students the value of practical work.  The teachers in this American school, however, were participatory to the work program, and worked with the students, mentoring them in the process.  That was not likely the case at this school in Thailand.

[Bert got kinky]

 

Given the space of a football pitch and that this is on school land, one would presume that this is not a full 18 hole course, in fact, it's probably only one hole for practicing pitching and putting.

However, I don't understand why they are using cement, why not grass?

 

[greenmonkey]

this director has missed a trick... he should get the students exercising by retrieving the golf balls for him and his buddies. He could also have the older students serving food and drinks. All for the students benefit of course!

[Bert got kinky]

36 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

If its a private school ,not much that can be done about it and him,

if public school it needs looking into.

regards Worgeordie

 

Most likely a public school.

If it were a private school, the parents would have had their say already.

 

 

[Neeranam]

19 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

ah so then it is ok to build a golf course at your school.  Be right on over, how much for a round mister school director?  Money where, oh put it in an envelope and leave it on your desk, gotcha....

Do you have any idea how much it costs to secure the position of School Director?

 

My daughter's old high school -  10 MOE were jailed for accepting 40 million baht from the Director. 

[TheFishman1]

Next week they’ll probably have a sign out from the Director of the school charging to play golf these directors of the schools in Thailand they just grab money from everywhere from the lunches from the desk from books they’re making money every which way TIT

[PremiumLane]

2 hours ago, AsianAtHeart said:

Students get taught that work is demeaning. 

No they don't, where did you pull the little gem from? 

 

And a huge difference between learning a practical skill at school and pouring concrete 

[VocalNeal]

I think pouring concrete is a skill????. Well, to do it properly.

[VocalNeal]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

In addition damning photos have emerged of the director allegedly using child labor - students at his school - to pour cement for the golf course,

When I was in my early teens the school I attended needed a new sports changing room so they started an archeology class to dig the foundations.????

[mrfill]

2 hours ago, AsianAtHeart said:

Nothing "damning" about teaching children the value of manual labor.   The "damning" part of education in general, worldwide, is the focus on books over physical work.  Students get taught that work is demeaning.  A teacher I know who had just completed her education was hired due to her English superiority.  When asked to help clean her classroom, she refused, saying that's what janitors were hired for.

 

The school director who teaches the children to do practical work should be praised.

Perhaps he should have some children doing the cleaning around his house, the cooking and maybe a few to dance around some poles to get some practical work experience.

[ThailandRyan]

10 minutes ago, mrfill said:

Perhaps he should have some children doing the cleaning around his house, the cooking and maybe a few to dance around some poles to get some practical work experience.

Like Prayuts use of the military at his free base housing....

[jonclark]

10 minutes ago, mrfill said:

Perhaps he should have some children doing the cleaning around his house, the cooking and maybe a few to dance around some poles to get some practical work experience.

"Dance around poles"...I would sincerely hope that each every single school child aspires to something more than that. 

[Burma Bill]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

who turned his kids' football pitch into a golf course

Maybe the kids could earn pocket money as caddies??

 

[newnative]

Fire him.

[ThailandRyan]

32 minutes ago, newnative said:

Fire him.

He should be hired by this Governments Cabinet, he would fit in well with the watchman, the heroin smuggler, the chicken farmer, and the others.....it was not just the Thaksin's as people want to believe, the entire country is polluted with corruption.  Years ago I was hired under a foreign teacher quota for a school in the north and was hired to teach the other English instructors.  The day before I was to start at 45k a month, the Districts School director canceled my contract and hired his niece who had just graduated from the university and spoke some English.....you can guess how much she was paid and where the other money went.

[Gluuay yai]

Ahhh nepotism and forced child labor.  How very very Thai ????

[Andycoops]

Another arrogant piece of s c u m who's it for his benefit at the expense of actually teaching kids and of course the taxpayers who fund his salary and the facilities for the children's benefit.

[kidneyw]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

The school has countered the allegations saying that children who want a game of football can play at other schools - there's an ideal place 2 kilometers away. 

Here is a school that does not give a damn about "political correctness."

[Dan O]

6 hours ago, AsianAtHeart said:

Nothing "damning" about teaching children the value of manual labor.   The "damning" part of education in general, worldwide, is the focus on books over physical work.  Students get taught that work is demeaning.  A teacher I know who had just completed her education was hired due to her English superiority.  When asked to help clean her classroom, she refused, saying that's what janitors were hired for.

 

The school director who teaches the children to do practical work should be praised.

Pouring concrete is hardly "practical work" at a school unless its a trade school.

[AsianAtHeart]

12 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Pouring concrete is hardly "practical work" at a school unless its a trade school.

I will politely beg to differ.  I sure wish I had learned how to do concrete work.  I could really use such a skill here in Thailand.  Especially I wish I knew how to do masonry.

 

When I was in high school, not "a trade school," but a standard high school, I took classes in automechanics, small-engine repair, oxyacetylene welding/brazing and arc welding, home economics (sewing/cooking/etc.), and more, along with the standard courses in mathematics, history, social studies, biology, chemistry, physical education, etc.  And I have put those skills to good use.

 

If the Thai students only knew how to do concrete work properly, they might know how to prevent their walls and floors from cracking due to poor construction practices.  They might know how to hold their builders accountable for the quality of the concrete delivered to their home construction projects and for its proper reinforcement, underlayment, vibration and troweling.  Seeing as concrete is such an ubiquitous product in this country, it would be a valuable skill to know how to work with it--even if you end up later hiring someone else to do the job.

[Dan O]

55 minutes ago, AsianAtHeart said:

I will politely beg to differ.  I sure wish I had learned how to do concrete work.  I could really use such a skill here in Thailand.  Especially I wish I knew how to do masonry.

 

When I was in high school, not "a trade school," but a standard high school, I took classes in automechanics, small-engine repair, oxyacetylene welding/brazing and arc welding, home economics (sewing/cooking/etc.), and more, along with the standard courses in mathematics, history, social studies, biology, chemistry, physical education, etc.  And I have put those skills to good use.

 

If the Thai students only knew how to do concrete work properly, they might know how to prevent their walls and floors from cracking due to poor construction practices.  They might know how to hold their builders accountable for the quality of the concrete delivered to their home construction projects and for its proper reinforcement, underlayment, vibration and troweling.  Seeing as concrete is such an ubiquitous product in this country, it would be a valuable skill to know how to work with it--even if you end up later hiring someone else to do the job.

Taking a class like you outline is a far cry from taking students and having them do concrete work as a laborer to build something unrelated to any acedemic studies.   

 

Teaching concrete work or other manual labor as part of a trade is completely different.

 

I suspect you elected to take those classes in school and\or they were part of the overall criteria of the school. Extremely different from what occurred in the school story. 

[Lacessit]

There is no reason why a football pitch and golf course cannot coexist. In Australia, I know several country golf courses that combine with a race course or cricket ground.

 

It does baffle me why concrete was poured for the golf course, unless that was a foundation for practice mats, which makes it a driving range, not a golf course.

[AsianAtHeart]

31 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Taking a class like you outline is a far cry from taking students and having them do concrete work as a laborer to build something unrelated to any acedemic studies.   

 

Teaching concrete work or other manual labor as part of a trade is completely different.

 

I suspect you elected to take those classes in school and\or they were part of the overall criteria of the school. Extremely different from what occurred in the school story. 

You're right, I did choose to take those classes.  However, perhaps I should also say that I worked while in school as well, on jobs to which I was assigned, including grounds, building maintenance, agricultural, janitorial, cafeteria, and other forms of labor.  These duties provided me with opportunities to use power tools, farm equipment (including driving the tractor), learn horticulture and arboriculture, learn how to do painting, plumbing, and more.  Sometimes we shoveled snow from sidewalks or did other "grunt work."  But these were necessary duties--someone needed to do them to keep operations running smoothly and in order.  Having had these responsibilities myself, I am far less tempted to look down on others who might do these duties for me now while I focus on other things for which my education has prepared me.  And I can always step in to assist with these "menial" tasks whenever necessary.

 

Please understand, though, that I'm not trying to excuse what happened in this story.  It does appear, from what we have been told, that the school's director had things other than the students' education in mind in giving them their assignments.  However, I believe that the students who are/were willing to learn, and who did not choose to take umbrage with the tasks given them, could have benefited by their extracurricular activities.  It's partly a matter of perspective.  In any case, learning to work, even under trying circumstances, is the lesser evil when compared against being pampered and never asked to lift a finger to assist in the more practical duties of life.