Do you believe in Tradition and why

[thaibeachlovers]

On 9/24/2022 at 3:36 PM, KhunLA said:

Tradition or marketing ... think:

 

 

Which ever ... a pot of Earl Grey is lovely

It was traditional before "marketing" was a noun.

 

Cream teas are also traditional- yummy.

[moogradod]

On 9/26/2022 at 8:11 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

.....................Cream teas are also traditional- yummy.

Nobody pretends that traditional means as well "good". There is plenty of traditional stuff I would never touch and for some I am grateful. Beer for example. Some pour indeed cream into the tea. Some eat Haggis, some Marmite - good old traditions ????

[Sparktrader]

On 9/23/2022 at 7:30 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Tradition is the bedrock of society. Without tradition we are just a collection of individuals going along our own path.

IMO the loss of respect for tradition is why modern society is failing.

 

PS I'm not referring to evil traditions such as human sacrifice or slavery.

What is tradition? Slavery? Public floggings?

 

 

[Sparktrader]

On 9/24/2022 at 12:10 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Of course it is. Afternoon tea with cucumber sandwiches is as British as it gets, IMO.

Cucumber has no flavour

[Sparktrader]

On 9/23/2022 at 9:23 PM, Lacessit said:

observe the traditions of golf, a sport I have played most of my life. That's about it.

Bad clothes

Shooting 85

Pretending to be Jack

 

 

[seedy]

Good example of Tradition

 

The Four Feathers - 1939

Stiff upper lip - Broomstick in the bowels

 

"Send me off to a Foreign land

Gonna kill the Yellow man"

- more contemporary version

[Photoguy21]

Please tell me you are not one of these people that want to rewrite history are you? Tradition is what makes a country unique.

[seedy]

3 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

Please tell me you are not one of these people that want to rewrite history are you? Tradition is what makes a country unique.

I am one of those people who would wish others realize the hypocrisy, caste system, brutality, slavery, that so called 'Traditions' have meant to all people who are not the ruling class.

Read this ...

Errico Malatesta’s essay “Neither Democrats, Nor Dictators.”

From May 1926

[roo860]

On 9/30/2022 at 4:37 PM, Sparktrader said:

What is tradition? Slavery? Public floggings?

 

 

I'm all bringing back public flogging. Tickets would sell like hot cakes.

[proton]

Marrying girls, female genital mutilation, polygamy but only for men, being forced to cover up from head to toe. No pork, booze gambling and in some like wise traditions no music, singing or education for girls. Not all traditions are equal.

[Sparktrader]

45 minutes ago, roo860 said:

I'm all bringing back public flogging. Tickets would sell like hot cakes.

Who would you flog first?

 

I'm thinking bogans who cannot pronounce Laos correctly.

[roo860]

Just now, Sparktrader said:

Who would you flog first?

 

I'm thinking bogans who cannot pronounce Laos correctly.

People who don't like Sir Les Patterson.

[Sparktrader]

2 minutes ago, roo860 said:

People who don't like Sir Les Patterson.

Fair enough.

[roo860]

2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Fair enough.

And vegans, of course.

[Sparktrader]

20 minutes ago, roo860 said:

And vegans, of course.

Fair enough too. 

[Photoguy21]

20 hours ago, seedy said:

I am one of those people who would wish others realize the hypocrisy, caste system, brutality, slavery, that so called 'Traditions' have meant to all people who are not the ruling class.

Read this ...

Errico Malatesta’s essay “Neither Democrats, Nor Dictators.”

From May 1926

That is your opinion and of course you are entitled to it but every country is entitled to operate in the wat they see fit. History may reflect things you would prefer not to have happened but you cant eliminate it. It is history and is what we learn from. Many of the things you mention continue to this day, it is unfortunate only the Western world that people want to blame for all the ills of history. Very rarely is it mentioned that the UK was the pioneer in abolishing slavery but I guess that is because it doesnt fit the narrative.

Edited October 2, 2022 by Photoguy21

[seedy]

3 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

 Very rarely is it mentioned that the UK was the pioneer in abolishing slavery but I guess that is because it doesnt fit the narrative.

First country to abolish slavery - Haiti 1793

First European country - Denmark and Norway 1803

England 1833

 

[seedy]

England was the pioneer in Concentration camps tho'

https://www.readersdigest.co.uk/culture/books/must-reads/a-shameful-legacy-how-britain-invented-the-concentration-camp

[Mac Mickmanus]

5 minutes ago, seedy said:

First country to abolish slavery - Haiti 1793

First European country - Denmark and Norway 1803

England 1833

 

Although it was the U.Ks Royal Navy that actively stopped the trade around the World , literally stopped the slave trade ships at sea and told them to stop doing it 

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, seedy said:

England was the pioneer in Concentration camps tho'

https://www.readersdigest.co.uk/culture/books/must-reads/a-shameful-legacy-how-britain-invented-the-concentration-camp

The UK's "concentration camps" during the Boer war were not in the same category as the famous Nazi concentration  camps

More like holiday camps for prisoners 

 

 

 

[Hummin]

2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The UK's "concentration camps" during the Boer war were not in the same category as the famous Nazi concentration  camps

More like holiday camps for prisoners 

 

 

 

You know your histoy ????, or not? Or just trolling? 

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You know your histoy ????, or not? Or just trolling? 

I know my history

[thaibeachlovers]

On 9/30/2022 at 10:37 PM, Sparktrader said:

What is tradition? Slavery? Public floggings?

 

 

Slavery was a normal part of life for many communities in the past, so not traditional, public floggings likewise.

Tradition is more along the lines of things which we do because they comfort us eg  eating turkey at Christmas.

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The UK's "concentration camps" during the Boer war were not in the same category as the famous Nazi concentration  camps

More like holiday camps for prisoners 

 

 

 

That's a despicable post.

 

https://www.up.ac.za/research-matters/news/post_2999519-concentration-camps-in-the-south-african-war-here-are-the-real-facts

More than a century after 48 000 people died in concentration camps in what’s known as the South African War between 1899 and 1902 – or the Anglo-Boer War – the events of that period are back in the headlines.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 10/2/2022 at 12:55 AM, proton said:

Marrying girls, female genital mutilation, polygamy but only for men, being forced to cover up from head to toe. No pork, booze gambling and in some like wise traditions no music, singing or education for girls. Not all traditions are equal.

IMO blame culture for that, not tradition per se.

 

IMO traditions are things we do to cheer us up like having a Christmas tree.

[seedy]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That's a despicable post.

 

https://www.up.ac.za/research-matters/news/post_2999519-concentration-camps-in-the-south-african-war-here-are-the-real-facts

More than a century after 48 000 people died in concentration camps in what’s known as the South African War between 1899 and 1902 – or the Anglo-Boer War – the events of that period are back in the headlines.

Agree 100% - just one quote from the link -

The administration of the camps was appalling. Food was of a very poor quality, sanitation deplorable, tents were overcrowded and medical assistance shocking. Little was known at the time about how to handle epidemics of measles and typhoid.

And lets not forget India -

Contrary to the myth that Britain gave many ‘gifts’ to India, the British Raj was a cruel and oppressive regime responsible for the deaths of an estimated 35 million Indians.

https://historiesofcolour.com/THE-BRITISH-RAJ

 

Edited October 3, 2022 by seedy

[Photoguy21]

16 hours ago, seedy said:

First country to abolish slavery - Haiti 1793

First European country - Denmark and Norway 1803

England 1833

 

England was the initiator of getting rid of slavery. I know the "woke" dont say that but unfortunately you can only ignore history not change it.

[seedy]

20 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

England was the initiator of getting rid of slavery. I know the "woke" dont say that but unfortunately you can only ignore history not change it.

"Woke" ???

Here is a link to the Act of Parliament

Were they 'Woke' back then ?

Slavery Abolition Act, (1833), in British history, act of Parliament that abolished slavery in most British colonies, freeing more than 800,000 enslaved Africans in the Caribbean and South Africa as well as a small number in Canada. It received Royal Assent on August 28, 1833, and took effect on August 1, 1834.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Slavery-Abolition-Act

 

Edited October 3, 2022 by seedy

[seedy]

This is the reality of 'Tradition'

Countries invade other countries, rape and pillage, loot and plunder, sack and burn, enslaving the indigenous population.

Now-a-days it is not done with armies, invasion, conquest, but with money.

The end is just the same.

[Sparktrader]

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Slavery was a normal part of life for many communities in the past, so not traditional, public floggings likewise.

Tradition is more along the lines of things which we do because they comfort us eg  eating turkey at Christmas.

Turkey is boring

Xmas is boring