Mystery murder of young man just back from Germany - he left birthday party and was found dead and burnt in school

[BangkokReady]

5 minutes ago, Andre0720 said:

Why must you make it out someone said that Thailand is the only place in the world with bad people?

I suppose you would call it a straw-man argument.

[Liverpool Lou]

38 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

The Uncle and Wife have the answers. 

His wife was with him in Germany.

[Liverpool Lou]

30 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Assuming when the wife said that he returned from Germany with "his family", she meant not her

Wrong assumption.   Read the Bangkok Post.

[Rimmer]

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[Gecko123]

13 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

His wife was with him in Germany.

The Thai Rath article said:

 

"Miss Yupaporn or Koi, 22 years old, wife of the deceased Mr. Thanatat, told in a trembling voice that her husband had just returned from Germany with his family at 11pm last Oct. 9 and today Oct. 10 is his birthday."

 

As the wife said "the deceased had just returned with members of the family" and did not say "we just returned from Germany" I took that to mean that the wife had remained in Thailand while he was abroad.

 

I can't find the Bangkok Post article you alluded to, but just because you may have stumbled on some updated information doesn't entitle you to talk to everyone who relied solely on the ASEANNOW and Thai Rath articles like they're a bunch of idiots.

[geisha]

39 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

His wife had been in Germany with him.

It doesn’t say that. It said the wife said he’d come back the previous night with his family. His mother came back with him.  Also it doesn’t say how long he’d been away, years or on a holiday ? Maybe it was theft and there was a lot of money in his wallet ? Maybe it was a jealous neighbor ? 

[Dan O]

As long as we're guess I'll jump in here.

 

The articles seem to imply he was in germany without her,  just based on whats written. He leaves the party without saying where he's going or telling anyone but the wife starts looking for him 30 minutes later and "they" go out to find him? Wife goes straight to grocery store and asks to see cctv video, why ask for that video and not just ask store has he been in??? That seems very odd as there was nothing up till then that indicates something bad happened was there?

Seems the wife had an idea something was not normal here. Thats the lead I would chase. 

[thailand49]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Wrong assumption.   Read the Bangkok Post.

correct I got some things wrong but Based on his age comments by Uncle this isn't a random murder! 

Some thing happen he did prior to going to Germany that cause his death you don't take the time to hang and burn the guy this takes more than one person. 

I stick with my assumption the trail is within his Uncle,  wife

Edited October 11, 2022 by thailand49

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Wrong assumption.

Nothing wrong about what I wrote.  That's what the sentence suggests, although the poor construction made it unclear.  I was merely making a conditional statement based on being sceptical of the meaning that the sentence was attempting to imply.

 

"If she means X, then Y could be the case" is perfectly applicable here and not an incorrect assumption.

[Onerak]

Sad indeed. 

[David T Pike]

All these speculations but all missing a important clue. WHY did he end up at a school he wen to as a child? 

[bbbbooboo]

Hmmm….he might have been sniffing petrol , lit a cigarette causing an explosion which set fire to his clothes and knocked his forehead on a nearby school desk, killing him

[hotchilli]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

His mother had taken him to live in Germany and had just got back.

Leaving a young wife in Thailand?

[2baht]

10 hours ago, geisha said:

It doesn’t say that. It said the wife said he’d come back the previous night with his family. His mother came back with him.  Also it doesn’t say how long he’d been away, years or on a holiday ? Maybe it was theft and there was a lot of money in his wallet ? Maybe it was a jealous neighbor ? 

Maybe you are speculating!

[Tropposurfer]

15 hours ago, steven100 said:

history speaks for itself.

Rather walk around here than in north America any day of the week

[steven100]

13 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

His wife was with him in Germany.

not so sure ....  I think it was worded and written as 'we'  when it was suppose to be 'he' ...   You know how Thai's mess up english !  

but let's look into it further shall we ....

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, steven100 said:

16 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

His wife was with him in Germany.

not so sure ....  I think it was worded and written as 'we'  when it was suppose to be 'he' ...   You know how Thai's mess up english !  

but let's look into it further shall we ....

Yes, look further by reading news reports other than those you see here.  Try the Bangkok Post, for example.  His wife was with him in Germany.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Yes, look further by reading news reports other than those you see here.  Try the Bangkok Post, for example.  His wife was with him in Germany.

Amazing how many members picked up on the rather tenuous 'cheating wife' hypothesis and ran with it, some of them repeatedly so. Maybe they're a bit jaded from personal or anecdotal experience, some of them repeatedly so?

[Gecko123]

38 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Amazing how many members picked up on the rather tenuous 'cheating wife' hypothesis and ran with it, some of them repeatedly so. Maybe they're a bit jaded from personal or anecdotal experience, some of them repeatedly so?

That's total BS. The police would also be starting with the immediate family and circle of friends, specifically the spouse, because that's who's usually behind this type of murder, statistically speaking.

 

Also, initial evidence points away from other possible motives. Robbery doesn't appear to have been a motive, as his wallet with money were found on his person. The deceased appears to have been killed very shortly after he left the birthday party, which means that he was probably being observed or his presence at the birthday party was known by the assailant. The only other possibility would be that he was killed by a random killer (what the French call a rôdeur) which is extremely unlikely. The deceased had just returned from overseas, and his family all said they were unaware of him having any enemies or disputes with anyone. That eliminates, at least initially, many potential motives for the murder.

 

If the wife remained in Thailand while he was out of the country, an opportunity for extramarital hanky-panky existed. The lack of planning and almost child-like attempt to destroy evidence by setting the corpse on fire also points to someone with limited criminal experience or who may have been inebriated at the time of the murder, i.e., someone fairly young. Because both the deceased and his wife were in their early twenties, and certain clues suggest that the killer may have been young as well, this further points in the direction of a possible love triangle.

 

The cheating spouse hypothesis is the leading hypothesis because of the laws of probability and clues pointing away from other likely motives, not because posters are projecting their own biases onto the case.

Edited October 12, 2022 by Gecko123

[Liverpool Lou]

25 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Amazing how many members picked up on the rather tenuous 'cheating wife' hypothesis and ran with it

All just part of the tedious, general anti-Thai/Thailand agenda that is seen here so regularly from so many.

[Rimmer]

A nonsense troll post has been removed

[Liverpool Lou]

52 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

If the wife remained in Thailand while he was out of the country, an opportunity for extramarital hanky-panky existed.

She didn't, she was with him in Germany, as has been pointed out already.

[Gecko123]

This dispute about whether the wife accompanied the husband on the most recent trip or not is a bit of a red herring.

 

According to the article, the uncle reported that the deceased frequently traveled back and forth to Germany because his mother and other family members on his side of the family lived there. It makes sense that his wife may not have accompanied him on each and every one of his trips (either because of visa issues or the expense), so the potential for an extra-marital affair developing in his absence was probably still very much present.

 

@Liverpool Lou You're acting like the Bangkok Post article is definitive. Please note that the Thai language Thai Rath article does not say she accompanied her husband on the most recent trip. At this point, I would consider the Thai language Thai Rath article, which may be the primary source for both ASEANNOW and Bangkok Post, to be the most reliable of the three news sources, as they did the investigation and talked to the family in Thai directly.

Edited October 12, 2022 by Gecko123

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, Gecko123 said:

That's total BS. The police would also be starting with the immediate family and circle of friends, specifically the spouse, because that's who's usually behind this type of murder, statistically speaking.

 

Also, initial evidence points away from other possible motives. Robbery doesn't appear to have been a motive, as his wallet with money were found on his person. The deceased appears to have been killed very shortly after he left the birthday party, which means that he was probably being observed or his presence at the birthday party was known by the assailant. The only other possibility would be that he was killed by a random killer (what the French call a rôdeur) which is extremely unlikely. The deceased had just returned from overseas, and his family all said they were unaware of him having any enemies or disputes with anyone. That eliminates, at least initially, many potential motives for the murder.

 

If the wife remained in Thailand while he was out of the country, an opportunity for extramarital hanky-panky existed. The lack of planning and almost child-like attempt to destroy evidence by setting the corpse on fire also points to someone with limited criminal experience or who may have been inebriated at the time of the murder, i.e., someone fairly young. Because both the deceased and his wife were in their early twenties, and certain clues suggest that the killer may have been young as well, this further points in the direction of a possible love triangle.

 

The cheating spouse hypothesis is the leading hypothesis because of the laws of probability and clues pointing away from other likely motives, not because posters are projecting their own biases onto the case.

Hey! You! Armchair guy! Read the news. His wife was with him in Germany.

 

Taking "initial evidence" and the "laws of probability", I would guess that right now, Clouseau's laughing at you.

[Liverpool Lou]

4 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

You're acting like the Bangkok Post article is definitive. Please note that the Thai Rath Thai language article does not say she accompanied her husband on the most recent trip.

You're acting as though it isn't definitive and something else is.  The BP article does, categorically, state that she had just returned with him, does Thai Rath categorically state that she wasn't with him?  Didn't think so.

[NanLaew]

56 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

All just part of the tedious, general anti-Thai/Thailand agenda that is seen here so regularly from so many.

Yes, anti-Thai, anti-Thailand and usually drenched in misogyny. All quite tedious.

[NanLaew]

10 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

It makes sense that his wife may not have accompanied him on each and every one of his trips (either because of visa issues or the expense), so the potential for an extra-marital affair developing in his absence was probably still present.

Makes sense to whom?

 

You "probably" need a new shovel by now, no?

[Upnotover]

Sorted.

 

[Gecko123]

7 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Yes, anti-Thai, anti-Thailand and usually drenched in misogyny. All quite tedious.

The anti-Thai anti-Thailand criticism is particularly laughable. In order for this criticism to work, you have to accept that a foreigner may have committed the murder. Do you really think a foreigner in the remote district of Prakhon Chai far outside of Buriram proper may have been behind the murder? LOL.

 

As far as misogyny, when a spouse is murdered the surviving spouse is usually a suspect until they can be ruled out. If suspecting the wife is misogyny, then are those who suspect the husband of murdering the wife to be labeled man-haters?

 

You and Liverpool Lou are going off the rails in the virtue signalling department. I'm sure the Thai police are treating the "cheating spouse/love triangle" as a primary preliminary theory about why the murder occurred.

[daveAustin]

 

22 hours ago, kamahele said:

There are savages in every country. Why must you make it out like Thailand is the only place in the world with bad people? 

Your point being? I didn't see where they singled out Thailand, aside from the fact that a Thai national was murdered in Thailand. Jeez!

 

Also, pretty sad the way some of you carry on. A young chap was murdered; his family might be reading but you make light of it like it's some fun game. Would you be as flippant if your son were just killed? Mind boggling.