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Thailand now monitoring all arrivals from Africa to prevent spread of Ebola
 

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The Thai Ministry of Public Health has stepped up its monitoring of arrivals from African countries, especially Uganda, following an outbreak of Ebola in that country in September, said Dr. Tares Krassanairawiwong, director-general of Disease Control Department today (Tuesday).

 

He said that, even though the World Health Organisation (WHO) has not yet issued a Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC) notice, he finds it necessary for Thailand to take the precaution, to prevent the disease from entering the country.

 

Citing Ebola as a dangerous infectious disease, Dr. Tares said that all arrivals from Uganda are required to undergo health screening and to register their arrival at their port of entry, before they will be allowed into the country.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailand-now-monitoring-all-arrivals-from-africa-to-prevent-spread-of-ebola/

 

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3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Do I look worried? Jeez. There are alot of things in this world that are worthy of worrying about. 64 cases in Africa are not one of them. Eseecially since it is NOT an airborne disease. 

64 cases are apparently important.????????

Posted
1 hour ago, Lucky Bones said:

64 cases are apparently important.????????

As any of us who are sceptical of the intentions of the authorities know, appearances are often not what they seem to be. 

Posted
1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

There are alot of things in this world that are worthy of worrying about. 64 cases in Africa are not one of them.

 

"The disease kills between 25% and 90% of those infected – about 50% on average."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola

 

From the OP:

 

"since September there have been about 90 cases in Uganda and 44 of them died."

 

Ebola is NOT something any country would want to spread outward from Uganda or other adjoining countries.

 

 

 

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21 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

"The disease kills between 25% and 90% of those infected – about 50% on average."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola

 

From the OP:

 

"since September there have been about 90 cases in Uganda and 44 of them died."

 

Ebola is NOT something any country would want to spread outward from Uganda or other adjoining countries.

Ebola not being airborne doesn't spread very easily. It can hit North African countries hard but that is partly due to cultural reasons. Many local communities there balm the dead and ebola takes advantage of this intensive bodily contact. The distrust in medical facilities is also quite high causing many sick people to stay in their village infecting others. Ebola is a highly incidental disease in other areas and for good reason.

 

I wouldn't worry outside North Africa.

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2 hours ago, AgentSmith said:

Ebola not being airborne doesn't spread very easily. It can hit North African countries hard but that is partly due to cultural reasons. Many local communities there balm the dead and ebola takes advantage of this intensive bodily contact. The distrust in medical facilities is also quite high causing many sick people to stay in their village infecting others. Ebola is a highly incidental disease in other areas and for good reason.

 

I wouldn't worry outside North Africa.

And some people thought the same thing about Monkeypox in the past...that it was just an Africa problem...until it wasn't.

 

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14 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

And some people thought the same thing about Monkeypox in the past...that it was just an Africa problem...until it wasn't.

 

Why would you say that? The death rate of monkey pox among people who get proper medical treatment is practically 0.

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8 hours ago, AgentSmith said:

Why would you say that? The death rate of monkey pox among people who get proper medical treatment is practically 0.

Your post that I was responding to wasn't talking at all about the death rate of Monkeypox. It was talking about the disease's ability to spread. And that's what my response was addressing.

 

Monkeypox ended up spreading beyond Africa in a significant way this year. And there's no reason to think Ebola could not do the same, if proper precautions are not taken -- which is in fact the subject of this thread.

 

It seems there's quite a few similarities in the means of transmission between Monkeypox and Ebola... See the following from the CDC regarding the various means of transmission of Ebola:

 

"The virus spreads through direct contact (such as through broken skin or mucous membranes in the eyes, nose, or mouth) with:

 

Blood or body fluids (urine, saliva, sweat, feces, vomit, breast milk, amniotic fluid, and semen) of a person who is sick with or has died from Ebola virus disease (EVD).

 

Objects (such as clothes, bedding, needles, and medical equipment) contaminated with body fluids from a person who is sick with or has died from EVD.

...

Semen from a man who recovered from EVD (through oral, vaginal, or anal sex)."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/index.html

 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Your post that I was responding to wasn't talking at all about the death rate of Monkeypox. It was talking about the disease's ability to spread. And that's what my response was addressing.

 

Monkeypox ended up spreading beyond Africa in a significant way this year. And there's no reason to think Ebola could not do the same, if proper precautions are not taken -- which is in fact the subject of this thread.

 

It seems there's quite a few similarities in the means of transmission between Monkeypox and Ebola... See the following from the CDC regarding the various means of transmission of Ebola:

 

"The virus spreads through direct contact (such as through broken skin or mucous membranes in the eyes, nose, or mouth) with:

 

Blood or body fluids (urine, saliva, sweat, feces, vomit, breast milk, amniotic fluid, and semen) of a person who is sick with or has died from Ebola virus disease (EVD).

 

Objects (such as clothes, bedding, needles, and medical equipment) contaminated with body fluids from a person who is sick with or has died from EVD.

...

Semen from a man who recovered from EVD (through oral, vaginal, or anal sex)."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/index.html

Epidemiologists treat ebola very differently from monkey pox. If there is an isolated case of ebola somewhere on the planet you can be 100% sure this person will be isolated immediately. This means full hazmat. Ebola means big trouble for the people around. Ebola will never get the chance that monkey pox got to go around. And of course that is directly related to the death rate of both diseases.

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14 minutes ago, AgentSmith said:

If there is an isolated case of ebola somewhere on the planet you can be 100% sure this person will be isolated immediately.

Obviously that hasn't been occurring in Uganda,  and that's why the Ebola disease lately has been spread from the hinterlands, and now has made it into the Ugandan capitol.

As Uganda's Ebola outbreak intensifies, cases expand in Kampala

"Uganda over the past few days reported a surge in new Sudan Ebola cases, with lab-confirmed cases rising to 90, including 9 more in Kampala, the country's capital and most populated city.

 

The cases are the first from Kampala, home to 1.7 million people. The initial case-patient was a man who had traveled there from an earlier-affected district and died at the hospital where he sought care.

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Outbreak responders have identified 1,830 contacts for follow-up monitoring, and 28 people are currently receiving treatment."

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/10/ugandas-ebola-outbreak-intensifies-cases-expand-kampala

 

How long before one of them ends up making it to Uganda's international airport at Entebbe, about 25 miles away from the capital?

 

And then, of course, there's this means of Ebola transmission, which is comparable to Monkeypox, and could involve a traveler who on the surface would appear perfectly well...

 

"Semen from a man who recovered from EVD (through oral, vaginal, or anal sex)."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/index.html

 

 

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Uganda's widening Ebola outbreak tops 100 cases; more deaths reported

Uganda's health ministry today reported 14 more lab-confirmed Ebola cases, pushing the outbreak total to 109. Health officials also reported 2 more deaths, raising the total to 30. Earlier in the outbreak before the first cases were confirmed, the ministry reported 20 suspected cases, all of them fatal.

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The World Health Organization (WHO) African regional office said in its latest weekly health emergencies update that Uganda's outbreak has expanded to two more districts, Kampala and Wakiso, raising the number of affected locations to seven. It warned that further expansion of the outbreak is possible, given that high-risk contacts have been identified for follow-up in five yet-unaffected districts.

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/10/news-scan-oct-26-2022

 

 

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Hadn't seen this from a week ago in the U.S.:

 

Five US airports screening travelers from Uganda in response to Ebola outbreak

The U.S. has begun screening travelers from Uganda in response to the ongoing Ebola outbreak.

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According to the CDC, approximately 140 people enter the U.S. from Uganda daily, and although no confirmed cases of Ebola related to this outbreak have been reported in the U.S., the CDC has implemented entry screening for U.S.-bound travelers coming from Uganda.

 

CDC specified that health screenings will take place at five domestic airports — Chicago O’Hare, Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta, John F. Kennedy (NY), Newark Liberty and Washington Dulles — for all travelers who have visited Uganda within the last 21 days. The CDC said this is a “standard public health practice” on par with patient isolation and contact tracing."

 

(more)

 

https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20221019/five-us-airports-screening-travelers-from-uganda-in-response-to-ebola-outbreak

 

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On 10/25/2022 at 2:25 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

"The disease kills between 25% and 90% of those infected – about 50% on average."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola

 

From the OP:

 

"since September there have been about 90 cases in Uganda and 44 of them died."

 

Ebola is NOT something any country would want to spread outward from Uganda or other adjoining countries.

 

 

 

I don't think there's much chance of it spreading, it kills to fast. It's not good to kill your host too quickly

Posted
25 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

I don't think there's much chance of it spreading, it kills to fast. It's not good to kill your host too quickly

 

Let's take the reasonable estimate based on info above in this thread that half of those infected might end up surviving.

 

Then take the following from the U.S. CDC on one way among others that Ebola can be spread:

 

"Semen from a man who recovered from EVD (through oral, vaginal, or anal sex)."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/index.html

 

Then consider this is Thailand and what Thailand is about for international tourists/travelers... and take it from there.

 

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On 10/27/2022 at 2:12 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Obviously that hasn't been occurring in Uganda,  and that's why the Ebola disease lately has been spread from the hinterlands, and now has made it into the Ugandan capitol.

You gotta read all my posts. I clearly wrote this is a northern African problem specifically. For all sorts of reasons.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Why Me said:

 

 there is a much worse pandemic in the making. We're having the worst bird flu epidemic in recorded history and it's happening in western countries. Trust me, once it jumps over to people and starts killing millions we'll be missing the current corona viral pandemic.

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