geisha Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 17 hours ago, Lacessit said: Poor guy, perhaps he is down to his last Lamborghini. How did he get to be so rich with such a dumb proposition? Inheritance? Actually, no. His father was us military having served in world war 2 and the Korean War. His mother worked for Time magazine. Heineken lived in Thailand since the age of 14, was educated in Bangkok. He began with a 1200$ bank loan and started a cleaning enterprise . From there , his work grew and grew. He didn’t get to his present position because of wrong decisions. No one can hardly call him foolish. I live in an area that relies completely on tourism. Everything, and especially hotels and restaurants have been brought to their knees because of Covid. Only the fittest survived. They need all the help they can get to refurbish, restaff ( higher wages) , and pay off the loans they had . How many businesses are laughing all the way to the bank after more than two years of loss ??? If he thinks the industry needs this boost, then I think he’s probably right. 8$ is not the end of the world for this class of hotels ( Anantara, Avani and many more) . It’s not going into his pocket or to the government but to help a suffering industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldexpress Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Utterly the dumbest thing I heard/seen this week. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rickudon Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 He should add 300 baht to the cost of his Pizzas (already expensive) - see how long his business lasts then. I will avoid HIS brand from now on. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjSilver Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Always racism against foreigners in Thailand. No matter if they are foreigners themselves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Well my sister was coming in feb amd my daughter and familly but cant afford it already ,and he wants to put prices up, Wonderful Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post madmitch Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, geisha said: Actually, no. His father was us military having served in world war 2 and the Korean War. His mother worked for Time magazine. Heineken lived in Thailand since the age of 14, was educated in Bangkok. He began with a 1200$ bank loan and started a cleaning enterprise . From there , his work grew and grew. He didn’t get to his present position because of wrong decisions. No one can hardly call him foolish. I live in an area that relies completely on tourism. Everything, and especially hotels and restaurants have been brought to their knees because of Covid. Only the fittest survived. They need all the help they can get to refurbish, restaff ( higher wages) , and pay off the loans they had . How many businesses are laughing all the way to the bank after more than two years of loss ??? If he thinks the industry needs this boost, then I think he’s probably right. 8$ is not the end of the world for this class of hotels ( Anantara, Avani and many more) . It’s not going into his pocket or to the government but to help a suffering industry. $8 isn't much if you're booking a five star hotel but it is if you're booking a smaller hotel. Let him put 300 baht on his prices and let other hotels decide whether or not to follow suit. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
off road pat Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 20 hours ago, soi3eddie said: If Mr Heinecke thinks that hotels need to charge more then surely they will. Hotel pricing is driven by costs and the market (supply/demand). No artificial support needed to generate more profits for him! Is he saying publicly that there should be dual pricing for foreigners? This is just plain wrong and will backfire on him and the country if they pander to his greedy non-sense. Especially when everything needs to be done to attract travellers in this recession. If I knew which hotels he's involved with, I would surely boycott them. William Ellwood Heinecke (Thai: วิลเลียม เอ็ลล์วู๊ด ไฮเน็ค; born 1949) is an American-born Thai businessman. He is the Founder & Chairman of Minor International PCL. Minor International includes Minor Hotels, Minor Food Group and Minor Lifestyle. He is the CEO and Chairman of Minor Corporation, the CEO and Chairman of Minor International, and Chairman of Minor Food Group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 21 hours ago, nigelforbes said: Sad, he should know better than to propagate two tier pricing. Called racism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, madmitch said: $8 isn't much if you're booking a five star hotel but it is if you're booking a smaller hotel. Let him put 300 baht on his prices and let other hotels decide whether or not to follow suit. I moved hotel over 330 baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Shocked farang said: Well he is still considered a farang by most Thais, the main advantage is that he can actually own land and properties in the Kingdom. Doesnt look Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 11 hours ago, johnhender said: Everyone loves capitalism till they are the victim - State based price hikes isnt capitalism. Free market is capitalism. His idea is socialist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 22 hours ago, snoop1130 said: American-Thai billionaire and hotel tycoon Bill Heinecke advises Thailand to charge international tourists an extra 300 baht (US$8) per room per night to aid the hotel industry’s post-pandemic economic recovery. As long as the price is clear when booking - so that customers can choose to go elsewhere - go for it. It will probably drive people away from Thailand and to cheaper destinations who are actively trying to encourage tourism, rather than price gouging. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 53 minutes ago, rickudon said: He should add 300 baht to the cost of his Pizzas (already expensive) - see how long his business lasts then. I will avoid HIS brand from now on. Good idea. Not good anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Just now, BangkokReady said: As long as the price is clear when booking - so that customers can choose to go elsewhere - go for it. It will probably drive people away from Thailand and to cheaper destinations who are actively trying to encourage tourism, rather than price gouging. You can't force hotels to charge more unless it's a tax. Then the money gets given to gov. Doesnt help the hotels at all. Less tourists, less hotel revenue. Terrible idea. If you want to sell more pizzas do you raise prices by 40%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahamlil Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 So easy when you are a billionaire, that's half the trouble to many fat cats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandGuy Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Must be a friend of the guy who bought Twitter. Asking people to pay more in a economy and energy crisis world wide? What do you think will happen? 555555. He should have played the leading role in "One flew over the cuckoo's nest"! What a joke! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: If you want to sell more pizzas do you raise prices by 40%? I guess I'd do what this guy is doing and ask the government to force all pizza restaurants to up prices by 40%.???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ThailandGuy said: Must be a friend of the guy who bought Twitter. Asking people to pay more in a economy and energy crisis world wide? What do you think will happen? 555555. He should have played the leading role in "One flew over the cuckoo's nest"! What a joke! Musk fee is one company. Free to not use it. This guy wants a nation wide $8 tax. He is a commie now. Edited November 10, 2022 by Sparktrader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandGuy Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Musk fee is one company. Free to not use it. This guy wants a national wide $8 tax. He is a commie now. The Musk "friendship" was pure sarcasm. Unfortunately You missed that. Raising prices for only Farangs will backfire. Especially in the current economy worldwide. People will start avoiding Thailand and spend their money in the countries around the kingdom. They are not stupid as there is a limit in squeezing the lemon and shaking the money tree! Edited November 10, 2022 by ThailandGuy correct typo's 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, ThailandGuy said: The Musk "friendship" was pure sarcasm. Unfortunately You missed that. Raising prices for only Farangs will backfire. Especially in the current economy worldwide. People will start avoiding Thailand and spend their money in the countries around the kingdom. They are not stupid as their is a limit in squeezing the lemon and shaking the money tree! Go Laos, Phils, Vietnam, Cambodia. Id go Laos and Siem Reap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, geisha said: Actually, no. His father was us military having served in world war 2 and the Korean War. His mother worked for Time magazine. Heineken lived in Thailand since the age of 14, was educated in Bangkok. He began with a 1200$ bank loan and started a cleaning enterprise . From there , his work grew and grew. He didn’t get to his present position because of wrong decisions. No one can hardly call him foolish. I live in an area that relies completely on tourism. Everything, and especially hotels and restaurants have been brought to their knees because of Covid. Only the fittest survived. They need all the help they can get to refurbish, restaff ( higher wages) , and pay off the loans they had . How many businesses are laughing all the way to the bank after more than two years of loss ??? If he thinks the industry needs this boost, then I think he’s probably right. 8$ is not the end of the world for this class of hotels ( Anantara, Avani and many more) . It’s not going into his pocket or to the government but to help a suffering industry. $8 tax goes to gov not hotels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 7 hours ago, tomazbodner said: Minor Hotels is a hotel owner, operator and investor with a portfolio of over 75,000 rooms across more than 520 hotels, resorts and serviced suites under the Anantara, AVANI, Oaks, Tivoli, Elewana, NH Collection, NH, nhow, Marriott, Four Seasons, St. Regis, Radisson Blu and Minor International brands. Minor Food is one of Asia's largest casual dining and quick-service restaurant companies, operating over 2,410 outlets in 24 countries under The Pizza Company, The Coffee Club, Riverside, Thai Express, Benihana, Bonchon, Swensen’s, Sizzler, Dairy Queen and Burger King brands. Minor Lifestyle is one of Thailand's largest distributors of lifestyle brands with over 390 points of sale, focusing primarily on fashion and lifestyle products. Its brands include Anello, BergHOFF, Bodum, Bossini, Charles & Keith, Esprit, Joseph Joseph, Radley, Zwilling J.A. Henckels and Minor Smart Kids. Dont buy from any of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMuddle Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 20 hours ago, LomSak27 said: A man who knows what he has to say and who to say it to. It does not matter if it sounds ridiculous or not. After all this is the man who took his 116 Pizza Hut restaurants and rebranded them overnight into The Pizza Company after a "dispute" with the parent company. Not easy and according to some, the real reason he eventually renounced US citizenship and became a citizen of Thailand. I wasn't aware he also owns The Pizza Company, they won't be getting any money from me, in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, MrMuddle said: I wasn't aware he also owns The Pizza Company, they won't be getting any money from me, in future. He is popular now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMuddle Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, worldexpress said: Utterly the dumbest thing I heard/seen this week. ???? You missed this, then, Nadhim Zahawi is a UK Conservative Minister. Leslie Phillips was a very famous male actor. Edited November 10, 2022 by MrMuddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prakhonchai nick Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Perhaps someone with more time than me could provide a list of all hotels and other interests this man has in Thailand, so that we expats can avoid them, and advise our visiting friends and relatives to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi49jr Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I would suggest donating all your money to charity and refrain from making ridiculous suggestions in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Working example Daily 500 baht Weekly 2500 baht Monthly 8,000 baht Daily becomes 800 baht What happens to weekly and monthly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerryd Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 This "idea" was already made into law months ago. I noticed last month, when I was looking at booking a room in Buriram in December, that some hotels already had dual pricing on their rooms. And it wasn't "300 baht" more. It was 750 baht more. For every room type, for every date. Luckily I found another place a couple hundred meters away that charged one price regardless of skin colour (and you can bet that is the determining factor most of the time.). This is something other countries should reciprocate as well as the land ownership prohibition. Make it a law that Thai citizens have to pay more to stay in hotels in other countries and are forbidden from buying land in those countries. How long before the "elite" started howling for change ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, geisha said: Actually, no. His father was us military having served in world war 2 and the Korean War. His mother worked for Time magazine. Heineken lived in Thailand since the age of 14, was educated in Bangkok. He began with a 1200$ bank loan and started a cleaning enterprise . From there , his work grew and grew. He didn’t get to his present position because of wrong decisions. No one can hardly call him foolish. I live in an area that relies completely on tourism. Everything, and especially hotels and restaurants have been brought to their knees because of Covid. Only the fittest survived. They need all the help they can get to refurbish, restaff ( higher wages) , and pay off the loans they had . How many businesses are laughing all the way to the bank after more than two years of loss ??? If he thinks the industry needs this boost, then I think he’s probably right. 8$ is not the end of the world for this class of hotels ( Anantara, Avani and many more) . It’s not going into his pocket or to the government but to help a suffering industry. You think he is probably right? AFAIK putting up prices reduces demand, it's basic economics. Even Warren Buffett and Bill Gates are capable of admitting they are wrong occasionally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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