Elon Musk says Twitter will offer 'amnesty' to suspended accounts

[candide]

34 minutes ago, James105 said:

CNN is a parody of itself, but they don't make it clear that they are a parody news network.   Whether that means they should be banned from Twitter under Musks rules I do not know, but I do hope not otherwise I'd miss the CNN classics like this one:

 

 

25 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yet what he actually said was:

 

Jimenez reported that the daylight protests “were largely peaceful,” but the situation quickly changed at night.

“What you are seeing now, these images, came and come in stark contrast to what we saw over the course of the daytime hours in Kenosha and into the early evening, which were largely peaceful demonstrations in the face of law enforcement,” Jimenez said.

 

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You have to understand that no matter how many times James105 posts information that proves to be distorted, he's going to go back to the same sources for more. It's significant that he offered no link to the image he posted.

Fake news as usual

"CNN "Fiery But Mostly Peaceful Protests" Parodies refer to a series of altered CNN screenshots for satirical purposes depicting CNN reporter Omar Jimenez during the 2020 Jacob Blake protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin, alongside the station’s chyrons. The format is typically used to mock CNN’s original headline, “Fiery but Mostly Peaceful Protests After Police Shooting,” and perspective on the event. The background image behind Jimenez is often photoshopped to include scenes from various media or major historical events with a similar, satirical spin. The format was popularized on a range of websites in late August 2020, after CNN’s original coverage aired, and shares similarities to other previous CNN Chyron Parodies."

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cnn-fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-protests-parodies

 

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6 hours ago, James105 said:

Once again the left demonstrates that it neither understands humour or 'memes'.   

So, what are we to make of the right's understanding of humour or memes given that you fell for this one?

 

[James105]

8 minutes ago, candide said:

 

 

Fake news as usual

"CNN "Fiery But Mostly Peaceful Protests" Parodies refer to a series of altered CNN screenshots for satirical purposes depicting CNN reporter Omar Jimenez during the 2020 Jacob Blake protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin, alongside the station’s chyrons. The format is typically used to mock CNN’s original headline, “Fiery but Mostly Peaceful Protests After Police Shooting,” and perspective on the event. The background image behind Jimenez is often photoshopped to include scenes from various media or major historical events with a similar, satirical spin. The format was popularized on a range of websites in late August 2020, after CNN’s original coverage aired, and shares similarities to other previous CNN Chyron Parodies."

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cnn-fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-protests-parodies

 

Haha.. you didn't actually read your own link did you?   Of course this has been used in other memes as it's funny, but the image I posted was from a genuine CNN news report.  Thanks for confirming that the left do not understand memes.

 

Origin

The original clip that the meme is pulled from is seen during CNN’s coverage of the Jacob Blake Protests, aired on August 25th, 2020, specifically the clip where reporter Omar Jimenez is reporting in the field in Kenosha, Wisconsin. During the scene (reupload featured below), Jimenez discusses the events of the protests and riots in Kenosha with a scene of burning cars in the background while the headline reads “Fiery but Mostly Peaceful Protests After Police Shooting.”

[James105]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

So, what are we to make of the right's understanding of humour or memes given that you fell for this one?

 

What I understand is that you seem to have blindly agreed with someone on the left without actually doing your own research or even clicking the link that debunks their own post.  

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2 minutes ago, James105 said:

What I understand is that you seem to have blindly agreed with someone on the left without actually doing your own research or even clicking the link that debunks their own post.  

Yes. You are correct. I should have followed the link. You will note, that unlike some, ahem, I don't vanish when my errors are pointed out.

[candide]

10 minutes ago, James105 said:

Haha.. you didn't actually read your own link did you?   Of course this has been used in other memes as it's funny, but the image I posted was from a genuine CNN news report.  Thanks for confirming that the left do not understand memes.

 

Origin

The original clip that the meme is pulled from is seen during CNN’s coverage of the Jacob Blake Protests, aired on August 25th, 2020, specifically the clip where reporter Omar Jimenez is reporting in the field in Kenosha, Wisconsin. During the scene (reupload featured below), Jimenez discusses the events of the protests and riots in Kenosha with a scene of burning cars in the background while the headline reads “Fiery but Mostly Peaceful Protests After Police Shooting.”

Ooooop!

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6 minutes ago, James105 said:

What I understand is that you seem to have blindly agreed with someone on the left without actually doing your own research or even clicking the link that debunks their own post.  

However, it is not the case that the reporter was claiming that the incidents taking place behind him were  mostly peaceful. Inept use of a chyron is hardly dispositive.

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13 minutes ago, James105 said:

What I understand is that you seem to have blindly agreed with someone on the left without actually doing your own research or even clicking the link that debunks their own post.  

If you want to see a purposeful use of chyrons to bury a story take a look at this:

https://frontpagelive.com/2020/04/15/fox-vs-cnn-chyrons-reveal-how-far-removed-from-reality-the-maga-crowd-is/

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Here's another one:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/3/14805500/fox-news-chyron-email-pence

[rabas]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

And the thing is, given the propensity of those on the right for believing falsehoods,such as  birtherism, qanon, election fraud, etc I don't think most of those on the right would have understood it was a parody.

The link to the source shows it's from a right-biased satire website. So if the the dim right know it is satire, how does your theory explain those on the left don't and call it fake?  

 

Is there an error in your logic?

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Just now, rabas said:

The link to the source shows it's from a right-biased satire website. So if the the dim right know it is satire, how does your theory explain those on the left don't and call it fake?  

 

Is there an error in your logic?

And you are claiming because it comes from a right wing website that means that all or most right wingers recognize it as being such? How does that work? Is there some kind of telepathic connection among those on the right? It looks to me like there's an error in your reasoning.

 

Trump tweets satirical news story: What is Babylon Bee and is it 'fake news'?

President Donald Trump on Friday morning tweeted a link to an unapologetically fake news website, appearing to share the satirical story in earnest.

The knowingly fake story came from Babylon Bee, a satire site with a conservative bent, and claimed, in jest, that Twitter was shutting down its platform to prevent the spread of negative news about Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

"Wow, this has never been done in history. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/16/donald-trump-tweets-babylon-bees-satirical-news-story-joe-biden/3676071001/

[stevenl]

4 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

That increase in signups probably came from his verification scheme that allowed extremists and scammers to purchase a blue check. However it came with a heavy costs. Half of twitters' top advertisers appear to no longer advertising. Big names like Chevolet, Ford, Merck, Novartis spent USD750 million in advertisement just in 2022. That kind of revenue lost is not sustainable for Twitters in the long run. 

https://www.npr.org/2022/11/25/1139180002/twitter-loses-50-top-advertisers-elon-musk

If there is an increase in signups. After all the source is not exactly an independent observer.

[dotcalm]

Twitter no longer enforcing COVID misinformation policy

https://www.axios.com/2022/11/29/twitter-covid-misinformation-policy-enforcement

 

A win for truth seekers and free speech and a another day of panic for the left's suppression of free speech. Look forward to twitter releasing the censorship data and memo's they will be exposed, all of the left and right for their corruption.

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

Twitter no longer enforcing COVID misinformation policy

https://www.axios.com/2022/11/29/twitter-covid-misinformation-policy-enforcement

 

A win for truth seekers and free speech and a another day of panic for the left's suppression of free speech. Look forward to twitter releasing the censorship data and memo's they will be exposed, all of the left and right for their corruption.

Just say, for arguments sake that the covid misinformation was found to be exactly that, indisputably. Would you been in favour of a ban even then? I note that you use the term "truth seekers" which leaves open that you might might support a ban if the truth was sought and found.

Edited November 29, 2022 by ozimoron

[dotcalm]

 

Elon Musk has fired or forced out around 75% of  Twitter employees and the site somehow works better. Pretty incredible how unnecessarily bloated with woke employees this company was before Musk bought it.

[dotcalm]

16 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Just say, for arguments sake that the covid misinformation was found to be exactly that, indisputably. Would you been in favour of a ban even then? I note that you use the term "truth seekers" which leaves open that you might might support a ban if the truth was sought and found.

Don't woke out and sweat it, just quit suppressing free speech, which is what the left fears more than anything. And now, Musk will advance the free speech and expose the tyrannical left's suppression of free speech. It's all going to come out in the wash and the left is spinning bonkers now. He's directly over the enemy now and they are in panic mode.

 

Even Biden and the WH is on defense now. It's on folks, enjoy.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/white-house-slammed-pledging-keep-close-eye-misinformation-twitter-absolutely-insane

Edited November 29, 2022 by dotcalm

[ozimoron]

Just now, dotcalm said:

Don't woke out out sweat it, just quit suppressing free speech, which is what the left fears more than anything. And now, Musk will advance the free speech and expose the tyrannical left's suppression of free speech. It's all going to come out in the wash and the left is spinning bonkers now. He's directly over the enemy now and they are in panic mode.

 

Even Biden and the WH is on defense now. It's on folks, enjoy.

So, it isn't about truth seeking? Whatever the outcome you support free speech even when it's proved to be misinformation on public health issues?

[dotcalm]

Tesla Will Officially Launch in Thailand in December

https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/tesla-will-officially-launch-in-thailand-in-december

[dotcalm]

5 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

So, it isn't about truth seeking? Whatever the outcome you support free speech even when it's proved to be misinformation on public health issues?

What don't you understand about free speech? (except fear it).

[ozimoron]

Just now, dotcalm said:

What don't you understand about free speech? (except fear it).

I understand perfectly. I'm asking you where you stand on that issue. Now I know.

[dotcalm]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

I understand perfectly. I'm asking you where you stand on that issue. Now I know.

Good, so now you can accept it, and the truth, despite your fears.

Edited November 29, 2022 by dotcalm

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

Good, so now you can accept it, and the truth, despite your fears.

Because truth doesn't matter to you?

[dotcalm]

Elon Musk claims that Apple has “threatened to withhold” Twitter from its app store. According to Musk, the company “won’t tell us why” it has issues with the social network’s app.

 

I think Musk asked apple if they fear "hate" free speech....

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/11/28/musk-apple-app-store-twitter/

Edited November 29, 2022 by dotcalm

[ozimoron]

Just now, dotcalm said:

Elon Musk claims that Apple has “threatened to withhold” Twitter from its app store. According to Musk, the company “won’t tell us why” it has issues with the social network’s app.

 

I think Musk asked apple if they fear free speech....

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/11/28/musk-apple-app-store-twitter/

Apple was quite clear about why they banned Twitter, covid misinformation.

[dotcalm]

4 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

I think Musk asked apple if they fear free speech...

He did so.

 

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597285572699074560?s=20&t=yGChfggoqmNBo4Scg__G3g

Edited November 29, 2022 by dotcalm

[ozimoron]

Apple, like every public company in America, has a constitution. That constitution always says that its directors are required to protect the company's shareholder value. This is why they banned Twitter and why 50% of advertisers have recently boycotted Twitter.

[ozimoron]

Is it better than Twitter?

 

You'll have to decide that for yourself, of course, but advocates say there are two major benefits over Twitter - a timeline that isn't reordered by algorithms like on Twitter and a decentralised network that isn't controlled by one company.

 

"Your home feed should be filled with what matters to you most, not what a corporation thinks you should see," reads the mission statement on the Mastodon page.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/from-tweeting-to-tooting-the-switch-from-twitter-to-mastodon/

 

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14 hours ago, dotcalm said:

Tesla Will Officially Launch in Thailand in December

https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/tesla-will-officially-launch-in-thailand-in-december

Meanwhile back in the USA:

Elon Musk’s Twitter Is Full of People Swearing Off Tesla

Until May of this year, the company outperformed other automakers, with around 70% of owners saying they were likely to buy from the brand again. That rate has slid below 60%, while the rest of the industry hovers around 65%. The trend is basically the same, HundredX finds, on the question of whether owners would recommend the brand to a friend.

https://news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-twitter-full-people-123443970.html

 

And, of course, he's hijacking ihe services of people from Tesla, which is a public company, to help him at Twitter.  What's possible defense can he mount for that? That he's only using non hardcore workers from Tesla so it doesn't matter? Musk is now an obvious target for a shareholder lawsuit.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

8 hours ago, dotcalm said:

Twitter no longer enforcing COVID misinformation policy

https://www.axios.com/2022/11/29/twitter-covid-misinformation-policy-enforcement

 

A win for truth seekers and free speech and a another day of panic for the left's suppression of free speech. Look forward to twitter releasing the censorship data and memo's they will be exposed, all of the left and right for their corruption.

"A win for truth seekers"

 

Since when does misinformation on covid magically become the truth? Just because you can you post it now on twitter does not make it true. Truth is the product of fact. If something is not factually correct it is still misinformation and can be proven so. Musk has allowed misinformation not truth.

[Bkk Brian]

8 hours ago, dotcalm said:

Don't woke out and sweat it, just quit suppressing free speech, which is what the left fears more than anything. And now, Musk will advance the free speech and expose the tyrannical left's suppression of free speech. It's all going to come out in the wash and the left is spinning bonkers now. He's directly over the enemy now and they are in panic mode.

 

Even Biden and the WH is on defense now. It's on folks, enjoy.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/white-house-slammed-pledging-keep-close-eye-misinformation-twitter-absolutely-insane

What do you disagree with in the Whitehouse statement?

 

"But again, social media companies have a responsibility to prevent their platforms from being used by any user to incite violence especially violence directed at individual communities as we have been seeing and the president has been very clear on calling that out. He’ll continue to do that, and we’re going to continue to monitor the situation," Jean-Pierre concluded.  

 

What is your version of free speech?