Lady Susan Hussey quits over remarks to charity boss Ngozi Fulani

[Mac Mickmanus]

12 minutes ago, Slip said:

Racist business owners will be concerned about...

Fixed it for you.

That R word again !!!!!!

An Employer would be concerned about being accused of being a racist if he asked an innocent question and the black employee accused him of being a racist, and thus he may not employ them in the first place 

[Bluespunk]

3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

It wouldn't be surprising if Buckingham Palace stopped meeting such groups in the future

I would. 

[Bluespunk]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

That R word again !!!!!!

An Employer would be concerned about being accused of being a racist if he asked an innocent question and the black employee accused him of being a racist, and thus he may not employ them in the first place 

There was nothing innocent about asking “where are you really from” once the charity workers nationality was made clear. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Your link it a non sequiter. It may as well be about the weather. You have not and will not provide any proof. The assertion is blatantly false on its face.

Here is non other than Ngozi , Ngozi Fulani, the person in question . Ngozi Fulani the founder of Sistah Space stating quite clearly that her charity is for African/Caribbean Woman 

Surely its not possible to provide even further evidence ?

The words are coming out from her mouth 

 

 

[Slip]

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

That R word again !!!!!!

An Employer would be concerned about being accused of being a racist if he asked an innocent question and the black employee accused him of being a racist, and thus he may not employ them in the first place 

and thus would prove him or herself a racist.  Someone said before that you don't seem to understand what words mean, and I'm starting to see their point.  Hilarious as always, so thank you.

[In the jungle]

So anyway.  How is Brexit going?

[Mac Mickmanus]

19 minutes ago, Slip said:

and thus would prove him or herself a racist.  Someone said before that you don't seem to understand what words mean, and I'm starting to see their point.  Hilarious as always, so thank you.

I also find it rather difficult in conversing , when posters cannot understand what I mean and when you explain to them that they are wrong about something, they just make the same point again  .

  Like, it wouldn't be racist because the employer would be concerned about false accusations and potential  legal action from a candidate and they fail to understand that just say , "That's racist"

   Difficult for me as well 

[In the jungle]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I also find it rather difficult in conversing , when posters cannot understand what I mean and when you explain to them that they are wrong about something, they just make the same point again  .

  Like, it wouldn't be racist because the employer would be concerned about false accusations and potential  legal action from a candidate and they fail to understand that just say , "That's racist"

   Difficult for me as well 

"I also find it rather difficult in conversing"

 

Finally.  Self awareness.

[Bluespunk]

7 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I also find it rather difficult in conversing , when posters cannot understand what I mean and when you explain to them that they are wrong about something, they just make the same point again  .

  Like, it wouldn't be racist because the employer would be concerned about false accusations and potential  legal action from a candidate and they fail to understand that just say , "That's racist"

   Difficult for me as well 

The charity worker made no false accusations. 

[Slip]

5 minutes ago, Pla Simon said:

 

 

The authoritive voice of reason and tolerance.

 

Are you all one and the same ?

 

Do you actually have any real points to make ?

 

Racist ! Troll ! Link ! Word salad ! Ad infinitum..

 

Low grade narcissism doesn't provide ballast for your rhetoric or misnomers.

 

My name is Simon - working class.

 

It's clear that irony and intellectual parry are not your strongest points, although given, Ive had a mild chortle here and there, at your hypocrisy / attempted saliency.

 

Do some research - plenty of information in the public domain regarding the two parties involved. 

 

Why bother perpetuating the thread ?

 

I find your own word salad unappetising - limp and tasteless, few ingredients, lacking creativity, covered by bluespunk.

 

Enjoy ! 

No, just 3 normal people laughing at your supercilious posturing.  Meanwhile, as amusing as your off topic bloviating has been it is all off topic and serves merely to bolster your own ideas of self-importance.  Further than that your swipes are not worthy of retort.  Jog on.

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

A single witness, now tweeting about "the depth and breadth of racism that is enshrined in an institution that carries the heritage of empire, slavery, and inequality" i.e. the Royal Family. She has also now restarted crying foul about the alleged racist abuse given out by the Royals to Meghan Markle.

 

 

To use the word enshrined is inaccurate and misleading - the English (and UK) royal line pre-existed empire and slavery (in this context) by hundreds of years - many Britons themselves were enslaved at the time of the start of this line, when the Danes were rampaging. Now although the references to a racist culture in Britain during the days of empire are true, to some extent, of those that actually explored abroad, but not necessarily the Crown. Remember that all European imperial powers (and others) were involved in slavery but that the British recognized fault and stopped it long before anyone else.  

 

The fantastic recall of the whole conversation (apparently verbatim) by Ngozi, the timing of these complaints relative to the US visit of the Wales's, and now the imminent award for their "heroic" stand against "structural racism" in the Royal Family, to Harry and Megan, from the Robert Kennedy human Rights Foundation all seem far too closely linked in time to be coincidental. Am I suspicious? Yes, I think so.

 

However. it seems that these women had already complained about royal racism - if they were so offended then why did they attend the event? Imagine the hubris if a white-only organization was invited to the palace? Oh, wait a sec!

 

Considering that the vast majority of nonwhite British have arrived into the UK in the last 70 years, race relations seem to be better to other long-standing divides elsewhere in the world. Having travelled to many parts of Africa and India, I would say that inter-ethic group gaps within those two continents are far worse than any race problems in the UK.

When a popular institution like the Royal Family is singled out like this, all that does is inflame feeling and delay the arrival of the time of the best levels of inter-racial behaviour and tolerance that we can hope for.

 

So called "anti racists" seem to cause more divisions than they do unity , anti establishment rebellious types using made up racism to attack society 

[Slip]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

So called "anti racists" seem to cause more divisions than they do unity , anti establishment rebellious types using made up racism to attack society 

Something you just made up that has zero actual value in the world outside your ego.

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, Slip said:

Something you just made up that has zero actual value in the world outside your ego.

Play the ball, NOT the man 

[Slip]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Play the ball, NOT the man 

I did.  I didn't say anything about you.  I'm not letting you drag me into another ridiculous off topic waste of time.  All the  best.

[Phnom Penh Trader]

58 minutes ago, Slip said:

and thus would prove him or herself a racist.  Someone said before that you don't seem to understand what words mean, and I'm starting to see their point.  Hilarious as always, so thank you.

But if you don’t employ someone for fear of being labelled a racist by them in a potentially innocuous incident,does that make you a racist or merely cautious I think the answer is obvious to most normal people?

Or are you saying that racism is a self-fulfilling prophecy now?

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Slip said:

I did.  I didn't say anything about you.  I'm not letting you drag me into another ridiculous off topic waste of time.  All the  best.

Well apart from mentioning my "ego" and that's what I replied to 

[Phnom Penh Trader]

9 hours ago, Pla Simon said:

Poor Lady Susan Hussey.

 

Unfortunate.

 

If only her advisers had kept her abreast of the evolving maleable precepts of social constructivism, and the resultant cognitive artefacts thereof.

 

If only she had worried about her pronouns, taken the deferential knee and apologised - offering restitution for her white privilege, before heartfelt discourse on whether or not women can have a penis, this whole subjective parlance faux pas and resultant travesty could have been avoided entirely...

You missed out kowtowing profusely for her unconscious bias there?

Bring out the Cookie Monster education tool!

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Here is non other than Ngozi , Ngozi Fulani, the person in question . Ngozi Fulani the founder of Sistah Space stating quite clearly that her charity is for African/Caribbean Woman 

Surely its not possible to provide even further evidence ?

The words are coming out from her mouth 

Does it worry you that she's smarter than you or something? What is your problem in understanding that a charity specialising in services to black women is still a charity?

 

Again, where is the link to your lie that they refuse services to white women? You're really being puerile with this line of argument.

[Mac Mickmanus]

5 minutes ago, Phnom Penh Trader said:

But if you don’t employ someone for fear of being labelled a racist by them in a potentially innocuous incident,does that make you a racist or merely cautious I think the answer is obvious to most normal people?

Or are you saying that racism is a self-fulfilling prophecy now?

Yes, say if you had ten applicants for a job and they all have the same experience and qualifications and one of the applicants could cause issues by making false accusation claims , you would likely not choose that person .

   Cases like this cause harm to normal guys in society who just want to get on in life , and may actually cause employment issues for Black people  .

   It does more harm than good 

[Phnom Penh Trader]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Does it worry you that she's smarter than you or something? What is your problem in understanding that a charity specialising in services to black women is still a charity?

 

Again, where is the link to your lie that they refuse services to white women? You're really being puerile with this line of argument.

To be honest this woman for some reason reminds me of Camila Batmanghelidjh,the owner of Kids Company that scammed tens if not hundreds of Millions from the British taxpayer for her charity before going bust?

They even dress the same and I fully expect in the future to hear of her charity going the same way,it is just a matter of time?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60338691

[Mac Mickmanus]

6 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Does it worry you that she's smarter than you or something? What is your problem in understanding that a charity specialising in services to black women is still a charity?

 

Again, where is the link to your lie that they refuse services to white women? You're really being puerile with this line of argument.

Now we have established that her charity is for Black females 

Can you now answer my question ?

Do you think that its acceptable to Charities to assist people based on their race ?

[ozimoron]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

Now we have established that her charity is for Black females 

Can you now answer my question ?

Do you think that its acceptable to Charities to assist people based on their race ?

Your English language reading comprehension skills are atrocious.

 

Sistah Space is a London-based organisation that provides support to women victims of domestic violence.

 

Sistah Space is the only domestic violence support organisation in London that provides specialist services to women of African and Caribbean heritage

[Phnom Penh Trader]

12 hours ago, cmsally said:

So it comes down to a problem based on subjective opinions. The problem is that we can take offence to just about anything if we want to. For example if a Thai person calls me a "farang" and they didn't mean it in an offensive way, should I take offence?

People have different ideas about what is racist, so whose definition should we use and why?

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?/Who will guard the guards?/Who will watch the watchmen?

[ozimoron]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

Are you aware that people from Africa and the Caribbean are typically Black people .

Are you aware how pathethic your comments are?

[Phnom Penh Trader]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Are you aware that people from Africa and the Caribbean are typically Black people .

He doesn’t care he just hates the institution of the Royal Family and is blinded to everything else?

[ozimoron]

3 minutes ago, Phnom Penh Trader said:

He doesn’t care he just hates the institution of the Royal Family and is blinded to everything else?

Does an Indian restaurant refuse Chinese customers?

 

Are you aware that I posted a link in which SS explicitly claim they provide assistance to anyone who needs it?

Edited December 3, 2022 by ozimoron

[Mac Mickmanus]

Just now, ozimoron said:

Does an Indian restaurant refuse Chinese customers?

No they wouldn't , but a charity specifically for Black woman would refuse a Chinese "customer" 

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

No they wouldn't , but a charity specifically for Black woman would refuse a Chinese "customer" 

I have posted a link where they said their services are for any dom violence victim who needs help. Why are you in denial of the bleeding obvious. Stop the racism.

Edited December 3, 2022 by ozimoron

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

I have posted a link where they said their services are for any dom violence victim who needs help. Why are you in denial of the bleeding obvious. Stop the racism.

I missed it, could you repost that link ?

[ozimoron]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

I missed it, could you repost that link ?

No. I never repost links for recalcitrants who refused to read it the first time.