32 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I just want you've got nothing one recourse is to make wholesale allegations about corruption.

 

Another sign that you've got nothing is that you repeatedly try to make it personal.

 

You've got nothing.

Don't give yourself too much importance.

25 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

That's only true in developed countries though. In Africa, for example, only around 6 percent of the  population is vaccinated but the number of deaths for the entire continent was only about 1/4 that of the U.S. alone -- and 40 percent of those were in South Africa.

 

The rest of the continent was largely unaffected, despite the fact that an estimated 70 percent contracted Covid. So hardly anybody was vaccinated and yet hardly anyone died.

 

 

I'll give you an opportunity to prove your claims with some credible links, in the meantime here's a couple you may wish to read:

 

Number of administered coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine doses per 100 people in Africa as of November 3, 2022, by country

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1221298/covid-19-vaccination-rate-in-african-countries/

 

Underestimated COVID-19 mortality in WHO African region

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(22)00425-9/fulltext

6 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Don't give yourself too much importance.

Trolling much?

Response to removed post also removed.

1 hour ago, connda said:

Saves lives.  <laughs>
 
CDC director fully vaccinated but has had Covid twice.  "But the vaxx saved her life."  Ok
The CEO of Pfizer fully vaccinated but has had Covid twice.  "But the vaxx saved his life."  Ok

At our ages, my wife and I should be dead.  No mRNA shots.  Follow a prophylaxis protocol that will go unmentioned.

All our family member are fully vaccinated for Covid as well as most of the villagers around us.  All our family members have had Covid.  Some twice. 
Most of the villagers have had Covid.  Some twice.

My wife and I have been around most of our family members while they had active Covid and I have never worn a mask in the village.  My wife does because of "face."

How many times have we gotten Covid?  Never.  In fact, I haven't even had a regular cold or any upper respiratory infection since starting the prophylaxis.

Whatever.  Moderna made $12 Billion USD in 2021.  Pfizer made $24 Billion USD in 2021.
Politicians and regulators are well funded.  All is well. People are getting rich.

I honestly recommend that everyone get the Covid mRNA shots  (I actually mean that too).  Get those shots every opportunity you have to get them.  Every 6 months?  Good.  Every 4 months?  Better.  Every 3 months?  The best!.  When the experts say get the shots, get the shots. 

 

If I thought you were receptive to learning I'd explain the difference between anecdotal and empirical evidence, and show that the empirical evidence proves that the risks of not being vaccinated greatly outweigh the risks of being vaccinated.  However I don't think you're interested.

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

Yeah it's called empirical observation and it's gaining unprecedented momentum in this world of unilateral pharma-funded "truth", if I were you I would pay attention.

 

I am genuinely curious to see how long your denial will go on for.

No, what you are doing is definitely not empirical observation.  You are drawing your preferred conclusion then searching for evidence that supports it, while ignoring all evidence that refutes it.  That is the opposite of empirical observation.

38 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

That's only true in developed countries though. In Africa, for example, only around 6 percent of the  population is vaccinated but the number of deaths for the entire continent was only about 1/4 that of the U.S. alone -- and 40 percent of those were in South Africa.

 

The rest of the continent was largely unaffected, despite the fact that an estimated 70 percent contracted Covid. So hardly anybody was vaccinated and yet hardly anyone died.

 

 

Right....

 

How accurate and comprehensive do you think the collection of medical information and causes of death is across the continent of Africa? 

 

Do you have sources to support your claims?

2 hours ago, connda said:

Saves lives.  <laughs>
 
CDC director fully vaccinated but has had Covid twice.  "But the vaxx saved her life."  Ok
The CEO of Pfizer fully vaccinated but has had Covid twice.  "But the vaxx saved his life."  Ok

At our ages, my wife and I should be dead.  No mRNA shots.  Follow a prophylaxis protocol that will go unmentioned.

All our family member are fully vaccinated for Covid as well as most of the villagers around us.  All our family members have had Covid.  Some twice. 
Most of the villagers have had Covid.  Some twice.

My wife and I have been around most of our family members while they had active Covid and I have never worn a mask in the village.  My wife does because of "face."

How many times have we gotten Covid?  Never.  In fact, I haven't even had a regular cold or any upper respiratory infection since starting the prophylaxis.

Whatever.  Moderna made $12 Billion USD in 2021.  Pfizer made $24 Billion USD in 2021.
Politicians and regulators are well funded.  All is well. People are getting rich.

I honestly recommend that everyone get the Covid mRNA shots  (I actually mean that too).  Get those shots every opportunity you have to get them.  Every 6 months?  Good.  Every 4 months?  Better.  Every 3 months?  The best!.  When the experts say get the shots, get the shots. 

 

You should contribute this post to The Journal of It's All About Me.

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

No, what you are doing is definitely not empirical observation.  You are drawing your preferred conclusion then searching for evidence that supports it, while ignoring all evidence that refutes it.  That is the opposite of empirical observation.

It's called confirmation bias, and is a common attribute of anti-vaxxers, climate change deniers, anti-fluoride campaigners and Trump supporters.

 

"Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values."

3 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

That's only true in developed countries though. In Africa, for example, only around 6 percent of the  population is vaccinated but the number of deaths for the entire continent was only about 1/4 that of the U.S. alone -- and 40 percent of those were in South Africa.

 

The rest of the continent was largely unaffected, despite the fact that an estimated 70 percent contracted Covid. So hardly anybody was vaccinated and yet hardly anyone died.

 

 

Does it tell you anything at all that South Africa is the only sub-Saharan country that has a modern public health reporting system? It's also rated as having the best healthcare system in Africa.

It's also useful to keep in mind that the average median age of Africans is 19. In the USA it's 38 and for Europe 43.

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Does it tell you anything at all that South Africa is the only sub-Saharan country that has a modern public health reporting system? It's also rated as having the best healthcare system in Africa.

It's also useful to keep in mind that the average median age of Africans is 19. In the USA it's 38 and for Europe 43.

the average median age

 

fixed it for you ????

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

I'll give you an opportunity to prove your claims with some credible links, in the meantime here's a couple you may wish to read:

 

Number of administered coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine doses per 100 people in Africa as of November 3, 2022, by country

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1221298/covid-19-vaccination-rate-in-african-countries/

 

Underestimated COVID-19 mortality in WHO African region

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(22)00425-9/fulltext

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-science-health-pandemics-united-nations-fcf28a83c9352a67e50aa2172eb01a2f

 

The "underestimated deaths" are based on modeling. But there are no verified statistics that confirm large numbers of excess deaths. The situation is Haiti is the same. Hardly any vaccinations, few deaths.

3 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-science-health-pandemics-united-nations-fcf28a83c9352a67e50aa2172eb01a2f

 

The "underestimated deaths" are based on modeling. But there are no verified statistics that confirm large numbers of excess deaths. The situation is Haiti is the same. Hardly any vaccinations, few deaths.

It's just an amazing coincidence that the 1 nation there with a sophisticated public health system also reports a high number of covid deaths?

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

I'll give you an opportunity to prove your claims with some credible links, in the meantime here's a couple you may wish to read:

 

Number of administered coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine doses per 100 people in Africa as of November 3, 2022, by country

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1221298/covid-19-vaccination-rate-in-african-countries/

 

Underestimated COVID-19 mortality in WHO African region

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(22)00425-9/fulltext

By the way, I have no faith in the Lancet anymore. They published a transparently fraudlent study about hydroxycholoroquine (which was quickly retracted) and have refused to publish any positive studies about Ivermectine.

7 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-science-health-pandemics-united-nations-fcf28a83c9352a67e50aa2172eb01a2f

 

The "underestimated deaths" are based on modeling. But there are no verified statistics that confirm large numbers of excess deaths. The situation is Haiti is the same. Hardly any vaccinations, few deaths.

And, as I recall, there was the case of Tanzania. Which had no covid deaths because, as the President of Tanzania explained, the virtuousness of the Tanzanian people protected them from Covid. Shortly after that he died from what the govt assured us was definitely not Covid.

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

It's just an amazing coincidence that the 1 nation there with a sophisticated public health system also reports a high number of covid deaths?

Well, you would have to believe that hundreds of thousands or millions died in other countries and nobody noticed.

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And, as I recall, there was the case of Tanzania. Which had no covid deaths because, as the President of Tanzania explained, the virtuousness of the Tanzanian people protected them from Covid. Shortly after that he died from what the govt assured us was definitely not Covid.

That's anecdotal and evidence of nothing.

3 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

By the way, I have no faith in the Lancet anymore. They published a transparently fraudlent study about hydroxycholoroquine (which was quickly retracted) and have refused to publish any positive studies about Ivermectine.

Pretty much every reputable medical journal has refused to publish positive research about ivermectin. Possibly because of all the fraudulence that was discovered in research making such claims? And because maybe there isn't really anything postively significant to report?

1 minute ago, jaywalker2 said:

By the way, I have no faith in the Lancet anymore. They published a transparently fraudlent study about hydroxycholoroquine (which was quickly retracted) and have refused to publish any positive studies about Ivermectine.

They haven't found one yet. Check if they've published any negative stories about ivermectin.

 

oh, here's one now

 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30464-8/fulltext

 

and another

 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00630-7/fulltext

 

and another

 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanam/article/PIIS2667-193X(21)00085-5/fulltext

 

There's plenty more. Why are you all outraged because they pulled one story which supports your biases?

2 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

Well, you would have to believe that hundreds of thousands or millions died in other countries and nobody noticed.

It's not a question of noticing. It's one of lacking basic heatlh infrastucture. And denialism. Can you explain why the one country that has an excellent health reporting system did report a high number of deaths and their neighbors didn't. Maybe all the African nations north of South Africa are filled with virtuous people and so immune to covid-19?

4 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-science-health-pandemics-united-nations-fcf28a83c9352a67e50aa2172eb01a2f

 

The "underestimated deaths" are based on modeling. But there are no verified statistics that confirm large numbers of excess deaths. The situation is Haiti is the same. Hardly any vaccinations, few deaths.

Its a robust peer reviewed study I posted not an article. Try some morgue stats in the link below and feel free to back up your false claims that Africa only has around 6 percent covid vaccinated? Waiting for a chuckle..........lol

 

Morgue Data Reveal Africa’s High COVID-19 Death Toll

“This is an example of what it means to be a resource-poor country,” Gill says. “We tend to think of this just in terms of health and disease, but it also reflects the ability of poorer countries to map the impact of diseases on its populations. Rather than an ‘African paradox,’ the far simpler explanation is that COVID-19 has affected African countries just as the virus has everywhere else, but has gone undocumented.”

https://www.bu.edu/sph/news/articles/2022/morgue-data-reveals-true-covid-19-death-toll-in-africa/

3 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

That's anecdotal and evidence of nothing.

It's not anecdotal that no covid deaths were reported during the President's tenure. 0. None. Nada.

 

COVID-19 Cases Increase in Tanzania, Despite Government Denial

Tanzania’s government insists there are no cases of COVID-19 in the country, but residents and doctors point to a growing number of illnesses and deaths. Opposition politicians say the government’s stance is endangering lives.

https://www.voanews.com/a/africa_covid-19-cases-increase-tanzania-despite-government-denial/6202157.html

2 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Strange one this.

 

The paper was shown to be made up nonsense, but 'experts' reviewed it and gave it the thumbs up.

 

These people should be called out on the MSM. But they won't. Just shows the complicity of the whole thing.

Wrong, it was a published article not as study, when they got independent peer reviews to check the data that's when they decided to withdraw it.

Here's something that DeSantis' grand jury might contemplate

 

Intelligence agencies didn’t move fast enough to collect Covid data

 

The Democrats’ report said the intelligence community did issue warnings about a potential global pandemic well before the World Health Organization issued such an announcement in March 2020. And despite President Donald Trump’s public remarks that the intelligence community did not speak in threatening terms about the potential pandemic, analysts did, in fact, send “dire” assessments in late January and early February, according to the report.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/15/report-intelligence-agencies-didnt-move-fast-enough-to-collect-covid-data-00074146

28 minutes ago, placeholder said:

It's just an amazing coincidence that the 1 nation there with a sophisticated public health system also reports a high number of covid deaths?

How many links will satisfy you?

 

https://www.firstpost.com/world/why-africa-which-has-less-than-6-of-people-vaccinated-is-least-affected-by-covid-19-10149471.html

23 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Pretty much every reputable medical journal has refused to publish positive research about ivermectin. Possibly because of all the fraudulence that was discovered in research making such claims? And because maybe there isn't really anything postively significant to report?

Or maybe because pressure has been put on them not to?

Just now, jaywalker2 said:

Or maybe because pressure has been put on them not to?

or maybe not. See how this works?

4 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

How many links will satisfy you?

 

https://www.firstpost.com/world/why-africa-which-has-less-than-6-of-people-vaccinated-is-least-affected-by-covid-19-10149471.html

More than that.......lol From the official figures in the link I supplied:

 

Just now, ozimoron said:

or maybe not. See how this works?

And you think, then, that Youtube, Twitter, and Facebook suspended accounts that made any positive mention of Ivermectin based solely on their own judgment? 

 

Oh, by the way, the NAID (headed by Fauchi) is currently being sued in the U.S. for colluding with social media platforms to suppress information information about Covid 19 that contradicted the government narrative. 

1 minute ago, jaywalker2 said:

And you think, then, that Youtube, Twitter, and Facebook suspended accounts that made any positive mention of Ivermectin based solely on their own judgment? 

 

Oh, by the way, the NAID (headed by Fauchi) is currently being sued in the U.S. for colluding with social media platforms to suppress information information about Covid 19 that contradicted the government narrative. 

Yes, of course. They all employed moderators.

 

Link to your claim that NAID (whoever they are) is being sued?