DeSantis calls for Florida grand jury to investigate coronavirus vaccine 'wrongdoing'

[jaywalker2]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

I'll give you an opportunity to prove your claims with some credible links, in the meantime here's a couple you may wish to read:

 

Number of administered coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine doses per 100 people in Africa as of November 3, 2022, by country

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1221298/covid-19-vaccination-rate-in-african-countries/

 

Underestimated COVID-19 mortality in WHO African region

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(22)00425-9/fulltext

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-science-health-pandemics-united-nations-fcf28a83c9352a67e50aa2172eb01a2f

 

The "underestimated deaths" are based on modeling. But there are no verified statistics that confirm large numbers of excess deaths. The situation is Haiti is the same. Hardly any vaccinations, few deaths.

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3 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-science-health-pandemics-united-nations-fcf28a83c9352a67e50aa2172eb01a2f

 

The "underestimated deaths" are based on modeling. But there are no verified statistics that confirm large numbers of excess deaths. The situation is Haiti is the same. Hardly any vaccinations, few deaths.

It's just an amazing coincidence that the 1 nation there with a sophisticated public health system also reports a high number of covid deaths?

[jaywalker2]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

I'll give you an opportunity to prove your claims with some credible links, in the meantime here's a couple you may wish to read:

 

Number of administered coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine doses per 100 people in Africa as of November 3, 2022, by country

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1221298/covid-19-vaccination-rate-in-african-countries/

 

Underestimated COVID-19 mortality in WHO African region

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(22)00425-9/fulltext

By the way, I have no faith in the Lancet anymore. They published a transparently fraudlent study about hydroxycholoroquine (which was quickly retracted) and have refused to publish any positive studies about Ivermectine.

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7 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-science-health-pandemics-united-nations-fcf28a83c9352a67e50aa2172eb01a2f

 

The "underestimated deaths" are based on modeling. But there are no verified statistics that confirm large numbers of excess deaths. The situation is Haiti is the same. Hardly any vaccinations, few deaths.

And, as I recall, there was the case of Tanzania. Which had no covid deaths because, as the President of Tanzania explained, the virtuousness of the Tanzanian people protected them from Covid. Shortly after that he died from what the govt assured us was definitely not Covid.

[jaywalker2]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

It's just an amazing coincidence that the 1 nation there with a sophisticated public health system also reports a high number of covid deaths?

Well, you would have to believe that hundreds of thousands or millions died in other countries and nobody noticed.

[jaywalker2]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And, as I recall, there was the case of Tanzania. Which had no covid deaths because, as the President of Tanzania explained, the virtuousness of the Tanzanian people protected them from Covid. Shortly after that he died from what the govt assured us was definitely not Covid.

That's anecdotal and evidence of nothing.

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3 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

By the way, I have no faith in the Lancet anymore. They published a transparently fraudlent study about hydroxycholoroquine (which was quickly retracted) and have refused to publish any positive studies about Ivermectine.

Pretty much every reputable medical journal has refused to publish positive research about ivermectin. Possibly because of all the fraudulence that was discovered in research making such claims? And because maybe there isn't really anything postively significant to report?

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, jaywalker2 said:

By the way, I have no faith in the Lancet anymore. They published a transparently fraudlent study about hydroxycholoroquine (which was quickly retracted) and have refused to publish any positive studies about Ivermectine.

They haven't found one yet. Check if they've published any negative stories about ivermectin.

 

oh, here's one now

 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30464-8/fulltext

 

and another

 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00630-7/fulltext

 

and another

 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanam/article/PIIS2667-193X(21)00085-5/fulltext

 

There's plenty more. Why are you all outraged because they pulled one story which supports your biases?

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2 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

Well, you would have to believe that hundreds of thousands or millions died in other countries and nobody noticed.

It's not a question of noticing. It's one of lacking basic heatlh infrastucture. And denialism. Can you explain why the one country that has an excellent health reporting system did report a high number of deaths and their neighbors didn't. Maybe all the African nations north of South Africa are filled with virtuous people and so immune to covid-19?

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-science-health-pandemics-united-nations-fcf28a83c9352a67e50aa2172eb01a2f

 

The "underestimated deaths" are based on modeling. But there are no verified statistics that confirm large numbers of excess deaths. The situation is Haiti is the same. Hardly any vaccinations, few deaths.

Its a robust peer reviewed study I posted not an article. Try some morgue stats in the link below and feel free to back up your false claims that Africa only has around 6 percent covid vaccinated? Waiting for a chuckle..........lol

 

Morgue Data Reveal Africa’s High COVID-19 Death Toll

“This is an example of what it means to be a resource-poor country,” Gill says. “We tend to think of this just in terms of health and disease, but it also reflects the ability of poorer countries to map the impact of diseases on its populations. Rather than an ‘African paradox,’ the far simpler explanation is that COVID-19 has affected African countries just as the virus has everywhere else, but has gone undocumented.”

https://www.bu.edu/sph/news/articles/2022/morgue-data-reveals-true-covid-19-death-toll-in-africa/

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3 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

That's anecdotal and evidence of nothing.

It's not anecdotal that no covid deaths were reported during the President's tenure. 0. None. Nada.

 

COVID-19 Cases Increase in Tanzania, Despite Government Denial

Tanzania’s government insists there are no cases of COVID-19 in the country, but residents and doctors point to a growing number of illnesses and deaths. Opposition politicians say the government’s stance is endangering lives.

https://www.voanews.com/a/africa_covid-19-cases-increase-tanzania-despite-government-denial/6202157.html

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Strange one this.

 

The paper was shown to be made up nonsense, but 'experts' reviewed it and gave it the thumbs up.

 

These people should be called out on the MSM. But they won't. Just shows the complicity of the whole thing.

Wrong, it was a published article not as study, when they got independent peer reviews to check the data that's when they decided to withdraw it.

[ozimoron]

Here's something that DeSantis' grand jury might contemplate

 

Intelligence agencies didn’t move fast enough to collect Covid data

 

The Democrats’ report said the intelligence community did issue warnings about a potential global pandemic well before the World Health Organization issued such an announcement in March 2020. And despite President Donald Trump’s public remarks that the intelligence community did not speak in threatening terms about the potential pandemic, analysts did, in fact, send “dire” assessments in late January and early February, according to the report.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/15/report-intelligence-agencies-didnt-move-fast-enough-to-collect-covid-data-00074146

[jaywalker2]

28 minutes ago, placeholder said:

It's just an amazing coincidence that the 1 nation there with a sophisticated public health system also reports a high number of covid deaths?

How many links will satisfy you?

 

https://www.firstpost.com/world/why-africa-which-has-less-than-6-of-people-vaccinated-is-least-affected-by-covid-19-10149471.html

[jaywalker2]

23 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Pretty much every reputable medical journal has refused to publish positive research about ivermectin. Possibly because of all the fraudulence that was discovered in research making such claims? And because maybe there isn't really anything postively significant to report?

Or maybe because pressure has been put on them not to?

[ozimoron]

Just now, jaywalker2 said:

Or maybe because pressure has been put on them not to?

or maybe not. See how this works?

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

How many links will satisfy you?

 

https://www.firstpost.com/world/why-africa-which-has-less-than-6-of-people-vaccinated-is-least-affected-by-covid-19-10149471.html

More than that.......lol From the official figures in the link I supplied:

 

[jaywalker2]

Just now, ozimoron said:

or maybe not. See how this works?

And you think, then, that Youtube, Twitter, and Facebook suspended accounts that made any positive mention of Ivermectin based solely on their own judgment? 

 

Oh, by the way, the NAID (headed by Fauchi) is currently being sued in the U.S. for colluding with social media platforms to suppress information information about Covid 19 that contradicted the government narrative. 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, jaywalker2 said:

And you think, then, that Youtube, Twitter, and Facebook suspended accounts that made any positive mention of Ivermectin based solely on their own judgment? 

 

Oh, by the way, the NAID (headed by Fauchi) is currently being sued in the U.S. for colluding with social media platforms to suppress information information about Covid 19 that contradicted the government narrative. 

Yes, of course. They all employed moderators.

 

Link to your claim that NAID (whoever they are) is being sued?

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14 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

How many links will satisfy you?

 

https://www.firstpost.com/world/why-africa-which-has-less-than-6-of-people-vaccinated-is-least-affected-by-covid-19-10149471.html

More up-to-date ones, for one thing. Like this one published on Dec 13, 2022

 

Morgue data reveal Africa’s high COVID-19 death toll

A new study led by Boston University School of Public Health found that nearly 90 percent of deceased individuals at a Zambian morgue were infected with COVID-19, but only 10 percent tested positive while alive...

Africa’s low death count has baffled health experts and government officials, but growing data contrasts previous, widespread assertions over the last three years that COVID-19 spared the continent.

A new study led by Boston University School of Public Health (BUSPH) researchers suggests that the reported COVID-19 death toll in Africa is substantially higher than official records indicate.

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/974330

 

Edited December 16, 2022 by placeholder

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11 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

Or maybe because pressure has been put on them not to?

You know, I could have doubter your conspiracy theory, but the use of "maybe" convinced me that you were on to something real.

[jaywalker2]

8 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Yes, of course. They all employed moderators.

 

Link to your claim that NAID (whoever they are) is being sued?

https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-couldn-t-recall-critical-204543315.html

 

I can't believe you people are making assertions when you clearly know nothing about what is going on.

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-couldn-t-recall-critical-204543315.html

 

I can't believe you people are making assertions when you clearly know nothing about what is going on.

The chances of that action prevailing are next to nil. Wait and see.

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-couldn-t-recall-critical-204543315.html

 

I can't believe you people are making assertions when you clearly know nothing about what is going on.

From your link:

They have accused top-ranking government officials of working with Twitter, YouTube, and Meta, which owns Facebook, "under the guise of combating misinformation" in order to censor viewpoints on COVID that went against the Biden administration's position.

 

Trump was the president when covid started through till when he left in mid Jan 2021.

[Bkk Brian]

12 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

The chances of that action prevailing are next to nil. Wait and see.

Of course it will go nowhere. Suppressing covid misinformation started in Feb 2020 well before the Biden admin, was an international effort and the only way to stop the nut jobs.

 

"In February this year, when the new coronavirus began to spread outside China, the Director General of the World Health Organization (WHO), Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, announced: “we're not just fighting an epidemic; we're fighting an infodemic” (https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/munich-security-conference). The term, coined in 2003 in the context of the first SARS epidemic, refers to a rapid proliferation of information that is often false or uncertain (https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/words-were-watching-infodemic-meaning). Academic researchers, international organizations such as the United Nations and the European Union, individual governments and the media have acknowledged and discussed the prevalence of the alleged COVID-19 infodemic and the importance of fighting it. Information campaigns have been launched to provide wider audiences with reliable information about COVID-19. Main social media platforms have also actively fought against false information by filtering out or flagging content considered as misinformation."

 

https://www.embopress.org/doi/full/10.15252/embr.202051420

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3 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-couldn-t-recall-critical-204543315.html

 

I can't believe you people are making assertions when you clearly know nothing about what is going on.

Truly devastating article. 

"Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry says the public is "going to be shocked" when it learns how little Dr. Anthony Fauci could recall during last week's deposition about "some of the most important actions and discussions" when he was chief medical adviser to Presidents Trump and Biden during the COVID-19 pandemic.

"I think that the public is going to be shocked as to how much Dr. Fauci can’t recall some of the most important actions and discussions that he had at the time, when the pandemic was on our shores," the Republican AG said in an interview with Fox News Digital. "It is certainly disturbing. "

Can you actually share with us the actual shocking information alleged by Landry?

[Scott]

Conspiracy post reported and removed.  

 

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-science-health-pandemics-united-nations-fcf28a83c9352a67e50aa2172eb01a2f

 

The "underestimated deaths" are based on modeling. But there are no verified statistics that confirm large numbers of excess deaths. The situation is Haiti is the same. Hardly any vaccinations, few deaths.

Is your argument that poverty, poor to nonexistent health care and a low life expectancy prevents Covid?

[candide]

6 hours ago, ozimoron said:

They haven't found one yet. Check if they've published any negative stories about ivermectin.

 

oh, here's one now

 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30464-8/fulltext

 

and another

 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00630-7/fulltext

 

and another

 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanam/article/PIIS2667-193X(21)00085-5/fulltext

 

There's plenty more. Why are you all outraged because they pulled one story which supports your biases?

Come on! This is completely biased! Ivermectin is actually a very efficient treatment!

 

"Remove worms and bots with a single dose of IverCare (ivermectin paste) 1.87%. This convenient paste offers broad-spectrum parasite control and comes in the extended Sure-Grip syringe. Proudly made in the U.S.A., it's the only ivermectin product that treats horses up to 1,500 pounds in a single dose." ????????????????

https://www.farnam.com/all-products/deworming/ivercare

[thaibeachlovers]

On 12/15/2022 at 7:47 PM, edwardandtubs said:

He said that there are 70 days of protection from infection, he's not sure we needed to administer boosters, and that allowing the virus to spread among younger people so that they can gain natural immunity is a potential way forward.

 

 

Which I believe is what Sweden was going to do till they lost their bottle. I, among others, always thought that was the way to go.