Mac Mickmanus Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, ozimoron said: This thread is about racism from Harry's brother and father. Have you found more racists ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: You are going back 20 years and the person who said it is no longer alive and this thread is about his grandson Classic deflection tactic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, jayboy said: No he wouldn't. All of William's children would have precedence starting with Prince George. Thank Goodness. George, at the age of 9 shows far greater maturity and class than the Man Child, perpetual victim, Harry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoguy21 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 12 hours ago, bendejo said: Right now, if Charles and William were both gone, who would ascend the throne? I believe but not 100% sure Williams children would be next in line. Harry should get lost no one wants him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, ozimoron said: This thread is about racism from Harry's brother and father. Doesn't exist. Hence you have provided no evidence. There is none. I however have provided links for Harry's racism. That must be annoying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoguy21 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, ozimoron said: This thread is about racism from Harry's brother and father. Dont talk rubbish 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, JonnyF said: Well he's bound to say that isn't he. Without "racism" he has no job. I bet he sees it everywhere. I don't know is he? Being Indian yes he probably has seen a lot of racism but since I'm white I can't comment on that experience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jayboy Posted January 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Elkski said: Maybe it's because I'm American and wasn't brain washed all my life but I can't believe there are so many royalists in 2023. Absolutely crazy. I'm glad harry is exposing the racists and other things from the royal family. With respect, my belief is that Americans are the brainwashed ones - the absurd exceptionalism, flag ceremonies at schools which would not be tolerated in other Western democracies,obsession with guns and toleration of unimaginable violence as a result, religious dogmatism long abandoned by most civilized countries, adherence in semi religious way to an anachronistic eighteenth century constitution put together by slave owning country gentlemen (mostly of British stock), endemic racism etc etc. I admire the USA and certainly don't think the above generalizations apply universally.However before criticizing other countries for being brainwashed, probably best to reflect on these matters with humility. As to royalists in the UK they are in a strong majority, though less so with the young and ethnic minorities.Actually the monarchy has often been unpopular in history.Your insights and knowledge are obviously limited on this subject so I won't engage further except to note that the evidence for racism in the royal family is very limited. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: He seems to be complaining that he's only second in line to the throne and that he was regarded as being a "spare heir" just in case William died . Now he is no longer necessary as Williams kids are next in line for the throne My heart bleeds, it really does. Imagine being born into incredible wealth, royalty, a Prince no less, women swooning at you, crowds cheering you, never have to do a proper days work in your life. Living in vast castles surrounded by mile upon mile of beautiful private countryside to play as you wish, servants attending to every whim, private security, chauffeur driver in fleets of luxury cars, private schools, meeting celebs in the executive boxes of prestigious sporting events. But alas, you are only the SECOND in line to the throne. SECOND!!!!!! How can that possibly be fair. Number 2???? The pain, I can barely imagine it. ???? The guy is so out of touch with the real world it's really just satire at this point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Elkski said: Maybe it's because I'm American and wasn't brain washed all my life but I can't believe there are so many royalists in 2023. Absolutely crazy. I'm glad harry is exposing the racists and other things from the royal family. He isn't exposing racists thought, he's making false accusations of racism to promote himself, his films and his books . Harry and his Wife have nothing to offer and so they just shout "racism" to get peoples attention 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said: Dont talk rubbish The push back against H & M are because their claims of racism in the royal family. That is apart from the racism displayed against Megan herself. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: I don't know is he? Being Indian yes he probably has seen a lot of racism but since I'm white I can't comment on that experience. White people never experience racism? ???? I thought you lived in Thailand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, ozimoron said: The push back against H & M are because their claims of racism in the royal family. That is apart from the racism displayed against Megan herself. What racism against Meghan? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JonnyF said: White people never experience racism? ???? I thought you lived in Thailand? Quote me where I said white people never experience racism.............when you finished laughing that is? For your info, this is what I said: 13 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: I don't know is he? Being Indian yes he probably has seen a lot of racism but since I'm white I can't comment on that experience. So again as I'm not Indian I cannot comment on his experiences where he "probably has seen a lot of racism" Edited January 4, 2023 by Bkk Brian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 hours ago, ozimoron said: Presumably, if William dies or abdicates before ascending the throne Harry would be next? Just asking, how can you reply to a post where the post contains a link stating that Williams children are next in line to the throne and Harry is way down the list and you then ask if Harry is next in line to the throne ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, ozimoron said: The push back against H & M are because their claims of racism in the royal family. That is apart from the racism displayed against Megan herself. How do you feel about Harry and other people who keep making false accusations of racism ? IMO, they are attention seekers who don't have much else to say and just shout "Racism" to get attention and its a form of bullying , accuse someone of racism and force them to defend themselves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: So again as I'm not Indian I cannot comment on his experiences........... You made it sound like being white you cannot comment on seeing a lot of racism. Maybe you could make it a bit clearer what you mean by "that experience" next time. The experience of being Indian or the experience of seeing a lot of racism? Thanks in advance. Back on topic, not much subtle interpretation needed on Harry's behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: How do you feel about Harry and other people who keep making false accusations of racism ? IMO, they are attention seekers who don't have much else to say and just shout "Racism" to get attention and its a form of bullying , accuse someone of racism and force them to defend themselves Nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, ozimoron said: That is apart from the racism displayed against Megan herself. Could you back that allegation up with a fact ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longwood50 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 3 hours ago, ozimoron said: I also used the phrase "not of more value" thus supporting your argument. My question was why all the outrage? If not of more value, then why the showcasing on TV. As mentioned there seems to be this mindset that because someone can catch a ball, hit a ball, dunk a ball, sing, act, or is born to someone of royalty that they are showcased to the public as if what they have to say is really more germaine and insightful. Now if Anderson Cooper was interviewing a person who had invented something, was an expert on medical issues, was Warren Buffet talking about investing, then it is totally appropriate. As to Prince Harry and his wife, they are just two human beings with no particular expertise or experience on any issue. The very fact that Britain continues to have a monarchy astounds me since they are nothing more than symbollic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, JonnyF said: You made it sound like being white you cannot comment on seeing a lot of racism. Maybe you could make it a bit clearer what you mean by "that experience" next time. The experience of being Indian or the experience of seeing a lot of racism? Thanks in advance. It was quite clear to me what the poster meant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted January 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, JonnyF said: White people never experience racism? ???? I thought you lived in Thailand? This old canard again. Yes, white people have experienced racial abuse. Unquestionably. What white people have never experienced is actual disadvantage due to racism. Don't bother citing affirmative action as an example of racism. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, JonnyF said: You made it sound like being white you cannot comment on seeing a lot of racism. Maybe you could make it a bit clearer what you mean by "that experience" next time. The experience of being Indian or the experience of seeing a lot of racism? Thanks in advance. Back on topic, not much subtle interpretation needed on Harry's behaviour. Perhaps your comprehension needs a little work rather than my comments. Yes I've seen his fancy dress clothing at the costume party before: You've already discussed that on this thread right? He said afterwards: "All I wanted to do was make it right. I sat down spoke to the Chief Rabbi in London, which had a profound impact on me. I went to Berlin and spoke to a Holocaust survivor. I could have just ignored it and gone on and made the same mistakes over and over again in my life. But I learned from that." I'll just wait for your response now, "well he would say that"............ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, ozimoron said: This old canard again. Yes, white people have experienced racial abuse. Unquestionably. What white people have never experienced is actual disadvantage due to racism. Don't bother citing affirmative action as an example of racism. You are speaking from your own personal experiences , there are White other people who have experienced disadvantages through racism , mentioning them would probably be off topic though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoguy21 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 26 minutes ago, ozimoron said: The push back against H & M are because their claims of racism in the royal family. That is apart from the racism displayed against Megan herself. They wanted to be away from the Royal family which is fine but now they should get on with their lives and give up the titles. They wont because it is all about them and the British people have had enough of them. Let them live their own life and stop using the brand to get them deals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, ozimoron said: This old canard again. Yes, white people have experienced racial abuse. Unquestionably. What white people have never experienced is actual disadvantage due to racism. Don't bother citing affirmative action as an example of racism. No disadvantage to not being able to own land, work in certain fields, having to pay more tax, having to pay more to enter certain attractions (private AND public) ????. Yeah, no disadvantage there. ???? That's before you begin on the casual racism of being called by your ethnicity in the street. "Hey farang" is fine. I wonder your opinion if a member of the Royal family shouted "Hey Asian" at someone. That's just Thailand. Try walking down the street in Cape Town or Johannesberg at 2am as a white man. You'll feel actual disadvantage real quick. The double standards are seismic on this one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, Photoguy21 said: They wanted to be away from the Royal family which is fine but now they should get on with their lives and give up the titles. They wont because it is all about them and the British people have had enough of them. Let them live their own life and stop using the brand to get them deals. They wanted to be away from the royal family because ... ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Photoguy21 Posted January 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, ozimoron said: They wanted to be away from the royal family because ... ? That narcist of Meghan wanted to join the Royal family to get the name and use it for her own ends. Harry was dumb enough to believe her as well. When Meghan realised she was not the most important person she wanted out. If they want to live their own life good for them but stop using the titles. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: It was quite clear to me what the poster meant. Maybe you two have some "special" connection. Marvellous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, ozimoron said: They wanted to be away from the royal family because ... ? Because they are both narcissists who couldn't handle being number 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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