Popular Post dotcalm Posted January 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) Vice President Biden stole classified government records and gave them to the Biden Think Tank which received millions in anonymous donations from China. How can Biden be trusted now? As president now what else has done, **are there more stolen documents from his VP days, what docs has he shared and with who? Just don't know what corruption and treason is swu=irling around this Biden scandal. FBI raids and investigations are the only way forward now to root out, expose and prosecute any treasonous acts undertaken by Biden. **https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/11/us/politics/biden-classified-documents.html His legacy is getting shinier by the day and about as favorable as a turd in the punch bowl. Biden is a failure and criminal. Edited January 12, 2023 by dotcalm 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 The Biden papers and the Mar-a-Lago documents: Apples and oranges? From what is known publicly at this time, the Biden papers stand in sharp contrast in scale and importance to the Mar-a-Lago stash of documents. One is potentially criminal (Trump). And one is not criminal (Biden). Trump’s materials contained over 100 documents with classification markings, comprising 700 pages; some of the Trump documents contained the highest levels of classification, including Special Access Program materials. https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3808819-the-biden-papers-and-the-mar-a-lago-documents-apples-and-oranges/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 6 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: The humor is there. The left cult was going crazy before with wild accusations and imaginary scenarios based on speculation regarding Trump. And now it's Biden's turn. The big difference is that there were facts against Trump. Anyway, thank you for acknowledging that the Trump cult is diffiusng wild accusations and imaginary scenarios based on speculation. We can at least agree with it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 The argument posited here by the right wingers is that if bank robber B walks free then bank robber A should as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcalm Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, ozimoron said: And one is not criminal (Biden). Stealing classified government documents is not a crime? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, dotcalm said: Vice President Biden stole classified government records and gave them to the Biden Think Tank which received millions in anonymous donations from China. How can Biden be trusted now? As president now what else has done, are there more stolen documents from his VP days, what docs has he shared and with who? Just don't know what corruption and treason is swu=irling around this Biden scandal. FBI raids and investigations are the only way forward now to root out, expose and prosecute any treasonous acts undertaken by Biden. His legacy is getting shinier by the day and about as favorable as a turd in the punch bowl. Biden is a failure and criminal. Vice President Biden stole classified government records and gave them to the Biden Think Tank which received millions in anonymous donations from China. Substantiate those false claims with links............ I would particularly like to see link that he stole and that the Biden Think Tank received millions in anonymous donations from China. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcalm Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, ozimoron said: The Biden papers These "Biden papers"... "The classified materials included some top-secret files with the “sensitive compartmented information” designation, also known as SCI, which is used for highly sensitive information obtained from intelligence sources." https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/09/politics/joe-biden-classified-documents-upenn/index.html FYI: vice presidents do not share plenary powers of declassification of docs as the President does. See the PRA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcalm Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Biden Think Tank received millions in anonymous donations from China. https://nypost.com/2022/04/09/54m-in-chinese-gifts-donated-to-upenn-home-of-biden-center/ $54M in Chinese gifts donated to UPenn, home of Biden Center 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, dotcalm said: These "Biden papers"... "The classified materials included some top-secret files with the “sensitive compartmented information” designation, also known as SCI, which is used for highly sensitive information obtained from intelligence sources." https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/09/politics/joe-biden-classified-documents-upenn/index.html FYI: vice presidents do not share plenary powers of declassification of docs as the President does. See the PRA. It's been mentioned to you many times that it doesn't matter as: - the law doesn't require the documents to be classified, - there is no evidence that Trump declassified the documents he had. How many times will you post it? Should I copy my reply so that I can just paste it in my replies whenever you post it again? That would save me time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, dotcalm said: https://nypost.com/2022/04/09/54m-in-chinese-gifts-donated-to-upenn-home-of-biden-center/ $54M in Chinese gifts donated to UPenn, home of Biden Center The same B.S, again. China started to give money to UPenn in 2014, four years before the creation of the Biden Center. Actually it receive more money before, than after the creation of the Biden Center. 115 universities also got money from China. This is ridiculous. From your own link: "The Ivy League college raked in a total of $54.6 million from 2014 through June 2019 in donations from China, including $23.1 million in anonymous gifts starting in 2016, according to public records." Edited January 12, 2023 by candide 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, dotcalm said: https://nypost.com/2022/04/09/54m-in-chinese-gifts-donated-to-upenn-home-of-biden-center/ $54M in Chinese gifts donated to UPenn, home of Biden Center We already know about that, its been covered in this OP already, none of that money went to The Biden Center. So unsprisingly your false calim is just that. Untrue. From your own link: “The Penn Biden Center has never solicited or received any gifts from any Chinese or other foreign entity." Do you enjoy spreading lies? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcalm Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: I would particularly like to see link that he stole He was in possession without color of right, stolen classified government documents unless Obama steps up and admits he declassified the documents and gave them to Biden (which is unlikely) then Biden is on the hook for illegally possessing classified and sensitive government records. Possesion of something by illegal means, ie theft, despite your obfuscation and defference Biden had no right to possess classified documents ater leaving office. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcalm Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, candide said: It's been mentioned to you many times that it doesn't matter as: - the law doesn't require the documents to be classified, - there is no evidence that Trump declassified the documents he had This is about Biden, NOT Trump. Can you step back and try to keep up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) Just now, dotcalm said: He was in possession without color of right, stolen classified government documents unless Obama steps up and admits he declassified the documents and gave them to Biden (which is unlikely) then Biden is on the hook for illegally possessing classified and sensitive government records. Possesion of something by illegal means, ie theft, despite your obfuscation and defference Biden had no right to possess classified documents ater leaving office. He was in possession without color of right, stolen classified government documents How do you know? Link to that not your pure bias speculation Edited January 12, 2023 by Bkk Brian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcalm Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: How do you know? Link to that not your pure bias specualtio His lawyers uncovered and reported the classified records in Biden's private office at UPenn. Has Biden denied having stolen classified documents relating to Ukraine, Iran, in his possession. Don't be foolish, of course he didn't because he can't, he got caught red handed. Edited January 12, 2023 by dotcalm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, dotcalm said: His lawyers uncovered and reported the classified records in Biden's private office at UPenn. Still waiting for a link that he stole them.............. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dotcalm Posted January 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, dotcalm said: His lawyers uncovered and reported the classified records in Biden's private office at UPenn Perhaps by design. What's unfolding feels all too strange. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, dotcalm said: This is about Biden, NOT Trump. Can you step back and try to keep up? It's been mentioned to you many times that it doesn't matter as: - the law doesn't require the documents to be classified, So it doesn't make any difference, whether it is about Trump or Biden. In a previous post, you also stated that Biden was in a worse situation than Trump, because he had no declassification power, you forgot about it? Edited January 12, 2023 by candide 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcalm Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Still waiting for a link that he stole them.. He possessed them illegally, how should Biden's crimes be classified then, in your obvious confused understanding? "Joe Biden took classified documents from the White House when he was Vice President," U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., posted on Twitter. "The VP does NOT have the power to declassify, only POTUS. Joe Biden stole classified documents. This is a very serious crime. DOJ & NARA can’t sweep this under the rug AND persecute Trump." https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/jan/11/Trump-Biden-classified-documents-cases-differ/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcalm Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, candide said: It's been mentioned to you many times that it doesn't matter as: - the law doesn't require the documents to be classified, So it doesn't make any difference, whether it is about Trump or Biden. sorry, but you make no sense at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, dotcalm said: He possessed them illegally, how should Biden's crimes be classified then, in your obvious confused understanding? "Joe Biden took classified documents from the White House when he was Vice President," U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., posted on Twitter. "The VP does NOT have the power to declassify, only POTUS. Joe Biden stole classified documents. This is a very serious crime. DOJ & NARA can’t sweep this under the rug AND persecute Trump." https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/jan/11/Trump-Biden-classified-documents-cases-differ/ Vice Presidents are allowed to have classified documents away from the Whitehouse. That is not the concern, the concern is why they were left at the office there. This is nothing to do with declassifying documents. A tweet from the conspiracy theorist Marjorie Green does not make it so................lol Edited January 12, 2023 by Bkk Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcalm Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Still waiting for a link that he stole them.............. this might help you. https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.56.020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, dotcalm said: He possessed them illegally, how should Biden's crimes be classified then, in your obvious confused understanding? "Joe Biden took classified documents from the White House when he was Vice President," U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., posted on Twitter. "The VP does NOT have the power to declassify, only POTUS. Joe Biden stole classified documents. This is a very serious crime. DOJ & NARA can’t sweep this under the rug AND persecute Trump." https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/jan/11/Trump-Biden-classified-documents-cases-differ/ Marjorie Taylor Green? And her field of expertise is...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, dotcalm said: https://nypost.com/2022/04/09/54m-in-chinese-gifts-donated-to-upenn-home-of-biden-center/ $54M in Chinese gifts donated to UPenn, home of Biden Center In other words, you told a falsehood. The money did not go to the Biden Foundation but to the University of Pennsylvania. Edited January 12, 2023 by placeholder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, dotcalm said: this might help you. https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.56.020 I'm not the one that needs help. A link that Biden stole those documents is needed by you not me to substaniate your claim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcalm Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Still waiting for a link that he stole them.............. Theft, unauthorized possession of classified and sensitive gov't docs, materials indictment could be the least of Biden's worries and a great gift to Trump and could be another crowning gaffe and failure, and entry to Biden's corroded legacy. I don't see Biden coming out of this one unscathed, but instead he will incur again his frequent humiliation in the eyes of the nation and the world. He's got to be the greatest failure in American politics hands down! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, dotcalm said: Vice President Biden stole classified government records and gave them to the Biden Think Tank which received millions in anonymous donations from China. How can Biden be trusted now? As president now what else has done, **are there more stolen documents from his VP days, what docs has he shared and with who? Just don't know what corruption and treason is swu=irling around this Biden scandal. FBI raids and investigations are the only way forward now to root out, expose and prosecute any treasonous acts undertaken by Biden. **https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/11/us/politics/biden-classified-documents.html His legacy is getting shinier by the day and about as favorable as a turd in the punch bowl. Biden is a failure and criminal. No. The law governing this case that the possessor of the documents had to be shown to willfully defy the law. It also specifies that when the return of the documents is requested by the appropriate authorities, it is a crime to refuse to return them. So under the law that makes Trump guilty twice already. Then there is the further additional crime of obstruction of justice. Trump lied about being in possession of documents he had no right to be holding. Edited January 12, 2023 by placeholder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcalm Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, placeholder said: Marjorie Taylor Green? And her field of expertise is...? Why don't you enlighten those who care about your obfuscation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcalm Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, placeholder said: Trump lied about being in possession of documents he had no right to be holding. Biden, not Trump. Stay on topic. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, dotcalm said: this might help you. https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.56.020 The law governing Biden's possession of the documents is what's relevant. Not the definition of theft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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