ZXHY600 1 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Just crashed my ninja 600. Two cars suddenly stopped in front of me, panicked and lost traction. Front wheel hit a car. It seems the neck is slightly bent without cracks. Took it to a shop that says it can straighten the neck without any structural issues. What's your opinion on this? Is it safe? Or would it be better to buy a whole new frame? Or sell the bike for parts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post papa al 4502 Posted January 10 Popular Post Share Posted January 10 Just have the boys straighten it out...' be fine. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZXHY600 1 Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 3 minutes ago, papa al said: Just have the boys straighten it out...' be fine. Thank you. Was reading on reddit and everyone says any slight bend is catastrophic basically... Which made me worried Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BananaStrong 1213 Posted January 10 Popular Post Share Posted January 10 I think you know your answer. Ask your gut............what's the first answer that comes to mind? my feeling is, and I agree with you, your first thought is to either buy a new frame or sell it for parts. Even if back home, I might do the same. After an accident, things are never the same and i'm not sure it will be fixed to put your mind at total ease. pretty big risk to take................especially on a bike with that kind of power. 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 27035 Posted January 10 Popular Post Share Posted January 10 Straighten it, see how it rides after 3 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZXHY600 1 Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 3 minutes ago, BananaStrong said: I think you know your answer. Ask your gut............what's the first answer that comes to mind? my feeling is, and I agree with you, your first thought is to either buy a new frame or sell it for parts. Even if back home, I might do the same. After an accident, things are never the same and i'm not sure it will be fixed to put your mind at total ease. pretty big risk to take................especially on a bike with that kind of power. I don't know because I don't have much experience with this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron 22759 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, ZXHY600 said: I don't know because I don't have much experience with this. There are frame aligning machines. I don't know if they have them here but I expect they would. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki 21047 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Photos would be good to see what you mean by neck. To fix the head stock is OK the call it a tug. I would be more concerned about suspension problems. Check that as well. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZXHY600 1 Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 Just now, ozimoron said: There are frame aligning machines. I don't know if they have them here but I expect they would. Yes it's one of their services. I was mostly worried about the integrity after having it straightened. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkski 2841 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Metals strength after flexing changes a lot depending on how much has elastically failed. Not an expert at all but I could tell when I would scrap the frame once I saw the extent of damage close up. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZXHY600 1 Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 12 minutes ago, Elkski said: Metals strength after flexing changes a lot depending on how much has elastically failed. Not an expert at all but I could tell when I would scrap the frame once I saw the extent of damage close up. The shop said they wouldn't do anything unless they deem it safe. But I have no clue Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkski 2841 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I think I meant non-elastic failure. Glad your ok otherwise. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al 4502 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 It is made of steel. Which does not just fail. No cracks. Good. Farang think too mutt. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh Jones 956 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Can we see pictures of it ? Sorry to hear about the accident. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 27035 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Years ago i crashed my bike in UK, not my fault, anyway my Dad and i bent the forks back to straight using a plank of wood old fashion style, rode it fine after Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid 7803 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Just wreck it! Pile it up in the dump and buy a new one. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly 2623 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 9 hours ago, papa al said: It is made of steel. Which does not just fail. No cracks. Good. Farang think too mutt. I'm pretty sure the headstock section of the frame is ali Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 24079 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, Gottfrid said: Just wreck it! Pile it up in the dump and buy a new one. And your experience with motorbikes is? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffersLos 6690 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Find the price of the OEM parts online. Should take 5 minutes. If they cost less than the peace of mind, buy them, if more expensive than your peace of mind, get it seen to by a couple of backyard, unqualified Thai guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
msbkk 124 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I would bring it to an authorized Kawasaki bigbike dealer, not just any other shop. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwonitoy 2215 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) Depending on price of a new frame and inspecting the damaged one. Frame can be magna fluxed, magnetic particle inspection or even x-rayed for cracks https://www.tndt.co.th/en/aboutus/about-business/ My friend works at the above company and is a hard core motorcyclist I've done bike frames where I'm from. X ray inspection on a changed head angle and rewelding. Edited January 11 by kwonitoy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gottfrid 7803 Posted January 11 Popular Post Share Posted January 11 56 minutes ago, roo860 said: And your experience with motorbikes is? About 35 years, and that I would never drive a bike with any kind of repair to the frame. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKKBike09 2196 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 16 hours ago, ZXHY600 said: Just crashed my ninja 600. Two cars suddenly stopped in front of me, panicked and lost traction. Front wheel hit a car. It seems the neck is slightly bent without cracks. Took it to a shop that says it can straighten the neck without any structural issues. What's your opinion on this? Is it safe? Or would it be better to buy a whole new frame? Or sell the bike for parts? As per others - can you post some pics? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 24079 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 16 minutes ago, Gottfrid said: About 35 years, and that I would never drive a bike with any kind of repair to the frame. A newbie then. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess 10545 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just saying if a new frame is fitted, then it will have a new number, which will need to be registered and changed in the book. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid 7803 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 3 minutes ago, roo860 said: A newbie then. What is it you don´t get? Newbie after 35 years. Newbie, just because I do not trust repair on a bike frame. Seems more to me, that you are the one having problem with the meaning of a simple word. On the other hand, maybe you just trying to be a bad a55 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang 53754 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 If it is not too expensive, then I would let them straighten it and then sell the bike (and make sure the buyer knows that the bike has a crash). But it obviously also depends on what you do with the bike. Short runs to 7/11? Or do you use it like you are supposed to use a Ninja 600? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly 2623 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 18 hours ago, ZXHY600 said: Or would it be better to buy a whole new frame? I just did a quick search, and you're looking at about Baht 50k for the frame...I don't know the year of your bike, but it seems it was used from 2009 up to at least 2017 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al 4502 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: But it obviously also depends on what you do with the bike. ? Or do you use it like you are supposed to use a Ninja 600? Designed for race track. Edited January 11 by papa al 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al 4502 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 4 hours ago, Neilly said: I'm pretty sure the headstock section of the frame is ali Structural aluminum is also very suited to this type repair. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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