1 hour ago, Jimbo in Thailand said:

but we're talking about TAT's creative accounting system here!

Not "talking", just whinging.

It wouldn't matter what the numbers were, or if the bars were packed, or the streets gridlocked, the whingers will whinge.

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29 minutes ago, whiteman said:

I have noticed lately much less air traffic in the sky's than the last 2 weeks, so the down trend is happening. 

I think you might be right, pretty sure the December figure will be confirmed at over 2 million so January might be the first month that will experience a decline since international arrivals restarted. Definately part of the reason they were so eager to start getting the Chinese back in just as the Western segment drops off after the xmas/high season rush.

1 hour ago, Jimbo in Thailand said:

LOL yes I'm a l-o-n-g time O-A expat with re-entry permit (of course), but we're talking about TAT's creative accounting system here! ????????

TAT has no input in compiling the figures, they make their forecasts but actual reporting is not their responsibility or within their control.

Huge numbers of day shoppers from Malaysia in those numbers.

 

But there really are big numbers of South Asians arriving every day, per my experience at Suvarnaphumi. And Russians, they are in Jomtien in big numbers.

 

 

2 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

About the only place on earth you will find Russian arrivals trumpeted most want permanent departures literally ????    

Mass murderers would be welcome in Thailand as long as they spend money.

15 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Not "talking", just whinging.

It wouldn't matter what the numbers were, or if the bars were packed, or the streets gridlocked, the whingers will whinge.

And the Thai huggers will still find a way to excuse the inexcusable.

57 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

These mainly young couples are possibly the " Brain Drain " and conscription dodges from Russia.

The big question is how they are able to receive funds for any possible long stay what with all the sanctions on their  Banks etc

Maybe Thailand has " facilitators " 

 

Most likely over 27 to avoid the draft.

Thailand takes Chinese UnionPay and other cards no doubt.

I would think Russians will have few obstacles to spending money in Thailand.

Seems like flight prices are increasing again and oil is nudging up in price.

China opening up demand may increase resource prices.

For example, UK inflation is still high and the housing market is beginning to soften. Jolly jaunts to Thailand may not be a top priority for many Europeans.

3 minutes ago, PCUSHING said:

And the Thai huggers will still find a way to excuse the inexcusable.

And what exactly is "inexcusable" about government statistics, doesn't every country in the world have them.

But then not every country has such a large number of disgruntled expats.

Just now, sandyf said:

And what exactly is "inexcusable" about government statistics, doesn't every country in the world have them.

But then not every country has such a large number of disgruntled expats.

There TAT figures. Full of TAT.

I remember a senior TAT figure lying through his teeth on Sky last year that Thailand had fully opened up.

When the interviewer pointed out all the hospitality restrictions, the TAT guy just smiled and said Thailand fully opened.

The dogs on the street new he was talking BS.

I am not an expat. Keep my assets in the UK and split my time between the UK and Thailand.

I am astounded at the number of expats i have meet who wished they had never sold up and would love to split their time also.

 

 

2 hours ago, kinyara said:

Only if you entered on a tourist visa, if a retiree with a Re-entry permit then no.

And you know this bcoz ?

2 hours ago, Jimbo in Thailand said:

LOL yes I'm a l-o-n-g time O-A expat with re-entry permit (of course), but we're talking about TAT's creative accounting system here! ????????

Probably anyone stamped in, that could be boarder bouncers and even those in transit. 

1 hour ago, PCUSHING said:

Mass murderers would be welcome in Thailand as long as they spend money.

Yep, the trend started long time ago during the Vietnam war, when the mass murderers discovered Pattaya.

4 hours ago, kinyara said:

Only if you entered on a tourist visa, if a retiree with a Re-entry permit then no.

So you are saying there will be no entrance fee if you have a re entry permit?? Aye right!

Remember. For people transiting and getting other flights where they need to check in again get counted as a tourist. Because they get stamped in their passport. Even though they go into the main concourse and check into another flight. These are the farsical figures that TAT use as well. 

1.8m per month? With a 300 bhat each paid upon entry...540m lost should the 300 fee is in place X 12 month????????????????????? 

7 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

Not all entries are tourists.....People living in Thailand and coming back from their families in the neighbouring countries because of Christmas and New Year celebrations, are no tourists..Same for expats who went back for the holidays and now retgurning to Thailand  again... So what do TAT descripes as a tourist??

I suspect that anyone who "comes through the turnstiles" is a tourist!

6 hours ago, PCUSHING said:

When the interviewer pointed out all the hospitality restrictions, the TAT guy just smiled and said Thailand fully opened.

He was probably thinking: "How dare you doubt my words, I'm a big shot in Thailand..."

2 hours ago, Mickmouse1 said:

1.8m per month? With a 300 bhat each paid upon entry...540m lost should the 300 fee is in place X 12 month????????????????????? 

They will figure it out, then double the fee to 600 baht to 'make good for the loss'...

Phiphat and his boys at the Tourism Authority Club are having yet another light moment at the crystal ball.
Border passers (Lao, Cambodian and Burmese) as well as Thai citizen do NOT complete a TM6 arrival/departure card anymore. All arrival by air, irrespective of nationality = ditto.

Any idea, where these figures come from - neither airline nor immigration can have these figures?  

1 hour ago, Sydebolle said:

Phiphat and his boys at the Tourism Authority Club are having yet another light moment at the crystal ball.
Border passers (Lao, Cambodian and Burmese) as well as Thai citizen do NOT complete a TM6 arrival/departure card anymore. All arrival by air, irrespective of nationality = ditto.

Any idea, where these figures come from - neither airline nor immigration can have these figures?  

1 hour ago, Sydebolle said:

Phiphat and his boys at the Tourism Authority Club are having yet another light moment at the crystal ball.
Border passers (Lao, Cambodian and Burmese) as well as Thai citizen do NOT complete a TM6 arrival/departure card anymore. All arrival by air, irrespective of nationality = ditto.

Any idea, where these figures come from - neither airline nor immigration can have these figures?  

Are you claiming that the immigration has no record when you cross the border? They keep a number of data items for each person crossing the border, name, nationality, passport number, flight number, visa type etc.

6 hours ago, NoshowJones said:

So you are saying there will be no entrance fee if you have a re entry permit?? Aye right!

Never mentioned it, from what I've read on that separate topic the only foreigners that will be exempted are those with a work permit, I guess as they are paying local tax on earnings.

12 hours ago, Boomer6969 said:

OMG, with all these Russians Phuket must be now the second most unpleasant place in the world, just after Moscow.

The racism on this page is getting ridiculous. Are you proud of yourself?

2 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

Phiphat and his boys at the Tourism Authority Club are having yet another light moment at the crystal ball.
Border passers (Lao, Cambodian and Burmese) as well as Thai citizen do NOT complete a TM6 arrival/departure card anymore. All arrival by air, irrespective of nationality = ditto.

Any idea, where these figures come from - neither airline nor immigration can have these figures?  

AOT tracks the number of aircraft movements, inbound and outbound, domestic and international.

 

https://www.airportthai.co.th/en/airports-of-thailand-plc/about-aot/air-transport-statistic/

 

15 hours ago, Saddic said:

Remember when TAT was making claims of huge Chinese numbers...  They aint coming (or the CCP aint letting them leave... same same)...

 

https://apnews.com/article/travel-and-tourism-china-asia-business-6303cb348fca243abe0aa8eb37de87c6

 

Lunar New Year tourism hopes fizzle as Chinese stay home

I caught something on the news this morning as I was driving to work, they interviewed a Chinese taxi driver who stated he was very worried about the CCP economy after the covid restrictions were lifted. He said he still had a mortgage to paid and a family to take care of and hasn't bought new clothes for himself in 3 years so he will once again be wearing the same clothes for the Lunar New Year.  He mentioned that most people can't afford taxis these days and are taking public transportation or finding alternate ways to travel. 

Indeed Cake many countries in the west have banned Russian aircraft from their Airspace and barred their cash cards but good old Thailand hasn't, and is happy to aid Putins war and carry on lobbing missiles into apartment blocks and hospitals. Guilt not a chance money money money.

40 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Indeed Cake many countries in the west have banned Russian aircraft from their Airspace and barred their cash cards but good old Thailand hasn't, and is happy to aid Putins war and carry on lobbing missiles into apartment blocks and hospitals. Guilt not a chance money money money.

I suspect a lot of the sanctions rumoured are not being enforced very tightly..... Russians seem to have no problem getting here, nor supporting themselves while here. Not like their currency has been restricted very much is it? 

46 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Indeed Cake many countries in the west have banned Russian aircraft from their Airspace and barred their cash cards but good old Thailand hasn't, and is happy to aid Putins war and carry on lobbing missiles into apartment blocks and hospitals. Guilt not a chance money money money.

How is Thailand aiding Putin? The Russians spend, not make money here. In fact Putin should prevent them coming here if he needs more war money.

Where does the money go to when the Russians have bought their airfares to Thailand? If Thailand refused entry to Russian aircraft like Aeroflot who have begun direct flights to Phuket, or Siberian airways Putin would have less to spend on killing kids and civilians in Ukraine.