British family's heartbreaking ordeal after loved one died in Thailand bike accident - and the journey to bring him home

[webfact 161300]

Anthony Murphy

 

‘IT HAS been hell, and he’s still over there.’

By Sophie Lewis

 

A Fareham family is heartbroken after their beloved grandfather has died in a motorbike accident in Thailand.

 

The Murphy family has been put through a traumatic ordeal after they have found out that Anthony Murphy, who was on holiday in Thailand, has died in a road accident – but were not told until five days after it had happened.

 

The 61-year-old had spent the last ten years travelling out to Thailand during the winter months, and last year was no different. He set off in December 2022 and was due to come home on January 24, 2023, but on January 10 he was involved in a motorbike accident, where he was pronounced dead at the scene.

His family, who had been trying to get in contact with him, began to grow worried and his son, Tony Murphy, 43 from Fareham, said that they would usually check when he was last active on Whatsapp, but this time, he had been inactive for days.

 

Tony said: ‘He goes over there in the winter for three months usually because he can’t stand the cold, that’s what he used to say.

 

‘We are always in contact with him and we hadn’t heard anything. We are always checking to see if he had been on Whatsapp and he hadn’t this time, and it was quite a few days, so we began worrying.’

 

It was not until January 15 that Tony, his brother Glen Murphy and their two sisters, Tara and Lorraine Murphy, found out that their father had dued, and it was only by chance that they were informed.

 

Anthony Murphy with his grandchildren. Pictured: Anthony with Aaron, Ellie, Sophie and Chloe.

It is believed that a stranger, who was visiting a friend who was also involved in the accident, found out that Tony had been named a John Doe after he was found with no ID on him – and he decided to help.

 

Full story: https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/people/fareham-familys-heartbreaking-ordeal-after-loved-one-died-in-thailand-bike-accident-and-the-journey-to-bring-him-home-4008124

 

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[Cricky 1744]

45 minutes ago, webfact said:

heartbreaking ordeal,

but were not told until five days after it had happened

Only got grandaddy to blame here.

 

He was classed as a John Doe.

 

Riding his motorbike without any identification on him.

 

 

Edited February 1 by Cricky

[spermwhale 1593]

Very sad. RIP.. Sadly, This is why I never rode a motorcycle while living in Thailand. I don't trust myself and I definitely don't trust the drivers. 

[ukrules 31992]

16 minutes ago, Cricky said:

Riding his motorbike without any identification on him.

You don't know that at all, all you know is that by the time he was recovered there was no ID and presumably no wallet that would often contain his ID left on him.

 

So the question is : Did Anthony normally carry some ID, along with credit cards, etc, etc with him in a wallet as a matter of routine?

 

Also who owned the motorcycle, if it was rented then who did they rent it to?

 

There are questions to be answered here.

 

RIP

Edited February 1 by ukrules

[gerritkaew 211]

I drive here everyday and I’m still lucky to be alive. 
you must have 5 eyes when driving in here couse danger comes frome everywhere !!

 

r I p mister.  

[JWRC 957]

The stranger who was visiting a friend found out about the John Doe, and decided to help, well, how did he know who he was?

 

[Cricky 1744]

11 minutes ago, ukrules said:

24 minutes ago, Cricky said:

Riding his motorbike without any identification on him.

You don't know that at all,

I do know that, I read it on the attached article.

 

 

[Cricky 1744]

32 minutes ago, ukrules said:

he was recovered there was no ID and presumably no wallet that would often contain his ID left on him.

OMG, I did not read any report regarding the WALLET.

 

Another member with speculation and hypothesis.

 

I always look forward to the great detective work by our AN members.

 

I'm offended at times by the speculators and their theories.

I'm offended that you say 'presumably no wallet'.

These references are offensive, if you want to investigate the case I'm sure the cops will offer you their evidence.

 

At times some members make comments trying their best to belittle other members, this must be stopped.

 

This is my opinion and that of other members.

Sure, This forum is about voicing your opinions but to belittle others unacceptable.

 

Edited February 1 by Cricky

[hotchilli 48307]

Not the best way to end a life, and tragically the family are left to suffer.

[Bundooman 2780]

42 minutes ago, Cricky said:

OMG, I did not read any report regarding the WALLET.

 

Another member with speculation and hypothesis.

 

I always look forward to the great detective work by our AN members.

 

I'm offended at times by the speculators and their theories.

I'm offended that you say 'presumably no wallet'.

These references are offensive, if you want to investigate the case I'm sure the cops will offer you their evidence.

 

At times some members make comments trying their best to belittle other members, this must be stopped.

 

This is my opinion and that of other members.

Sure, This forum is about voicing your opinions but to belittle others unacceptable.

 

Not all members, perhaps, I might add. I think it is unreasonable to mention the 'no ID' fact.

How many people do you know who go out without money on them, sometimes contained in a wallet.

The article fails to mention if he had money on his person and if you're riding an expensive machine as he was, wouldn't most people have reserve money on them?

It is reasonable to speculate whether the guy had had money on him when the accident occured.

This is a forum. Why get so 'offended' by what others write?

But help yourself if you are offended by my comments, OK

Don't forget your wallet when you go out .............!

[Cricky 1744]

3 minutes ago, Bundooman said:

The article fails to mention if he had money on his person

It also fails to mention

The weather

The placement of the moon

The nearby restaurants

 

Who cares.

 

We are not here to investigate.

[Cricky 1744]

13 minutes ago, Bundooman said:

Why get so 'offended' by what others write?

Why are you interested in this.

It's not your business.

 

Stickybeak. 👀

Edited February 1 by Cricky

[IAMHERE 4543]

Must of bypassed the finger printing part at immigration. Well, at Suvarnabhumi immigration anyways. Could also be the BiB didn't bother checking for his prints.

[ukrules 31992]

1 hour ago, Cricky said:

Only got grandaddy to blame here.

You were the one who blamed the victim, I pointed out that there are many questions to ask here.

 

No ID found, doesn't mean he didn't have any. I never leave without a credit card

 

The bike belongs to and is registered to someone yet nobody looked it up on a police database. Why not?

 

Edited February 1 by ukrules

[SiSePuede419 2308]

Who could have predicted that he would die in a motorcycle accident in Thailand?

 

It's not like it's well known that Thailand has dangerous roads.

 

Wait.  Oh.  Nevermind. 🙄

https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/road-deaths/thailand-second-most-dangerous-place-in-the-world-to-drive

 

[2008bangkok 1142]

I would imagine this is the UK embassy fault not the Thais.

Isnt normal protocol to find.out the nationality then contact the relevant country embassy and they deal with it?

[riverhigh 1246]

3 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Many many folks are in construction and work long hours during the summer, and hance have the opportunity for a break from a UK winter. I also retired at 50. Your post is speculative abd full of envy. 

Not envious in the least. Many UK expats I have known in the past have retired  too early and had to return to the UK broke and destitute. As for myself I have never really retired because of my technical skills. Can always find employment well into my seventies. Great feeling that I will never have to depend on the state for a cheque. 

[Blumpie 4322]

Obviously this gentleman's insurance was not valid or he wasn't driving with a license and they aren't paying.  They have a gofundme page all set up and raring to go.  Insurance should pay for repatriation of remains, but I could be wrong.  

Very tragic for the family that's for sure.  

If I ever died overseas, burn my body huck my ashes there and don't worry LOL.  

[kcpattaya 2327]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

because he can’t stand the cold, that’s what he used to say.

That's what they all say...

[riverhigh 1246]

22 minutes ago, gomangosteen said:

 "Anyways one should be asking how did Grandpa manage to get 3 months holiday every year since the age of 51. Hmmm, grandpaa may be on to something"

 

Should 'one' ?

 

As stated in the article, he arrived December due to depart 24 January, this could simply be the current 45 day visa exemption stay.

 

Three months - that is a standard 60 day tourist visa plus 30 day extension.

 

It's no mystery, so why try to fabricate some nasty suspicion? 

Please read the article first, the above statement is based on facts provided by the familey:

 

"The 61-year-old had spent the last ten years travelling out to Thailand during the winter months, and last year was no different."

 

"Tony said: ‘He goes over there in the winter for three months usually because he can’t stand the cold 

 

 

 

 

[Ginner 323]

2 hours ago, ukrules said:

You don't know that at all, all you know is that by the time he was recovered there was no ID and presumably no wallet that would often contain his ID left on him.

 

So the question is : Did Anthony normally carry some ID, along with credit cards, etc, etc with him in a wallet as a matter of routine?

 

Also who owned the motorcycle, if it was rented then who did they rent it to?

 

There are questions to be answered here.

 

RIP

Yes, I agree with you. This day an age almost everyone has an id, ATM, credit card, drivers license, insurance card. All with your name on it. What about where he was staying. Hotel, guest house ect. 

 

[Freddy42OZ 549]

2 hours ago, JWRC said:

The stranger who was visiting a friend found out about the John Doe, and decided to help, well, how did he know who he was?

 

From the article - The stranger managed to get hold of Tony’s phone and put the sim card into his phone, where there was only one number saved – a friend of Tony’s in London, who he called.

[Freddy42OZ 549]

1 hour ago, Bundooman said:

The article fails to mention if he had money on his person and if you're riding an expensive machine as he was

Nowhere does it mention the type of bike. 

Could it be you are confusing this British guy with the American who crashed his Ducati?

[stoner 4300]

1 hour ago, tonypattaya said:

Don't wish to speak bad of the dead, but

but i will.

[MadMuhammad 2579]

19 minutes ago, Ginner said:

Yes, I agree with you. This day an age almost everyone has an id, ATM, credit card, drivers license, insurance card. All with your name on it. What about where he was staying. Hotel, guest house ect. 

 

I leave home with just my phone and bike key often. DLT app for my drivers license,  Apple wallet with 4 credit cards and 3 bank apps for prompt pay, QR paymentor cardless cash withdrawals. 
I find carrying physical cards or cash can be problematic at times. Wallets are becoming obsolete for me 

[jesimps 8131]

1 hour ago, Bundooman said:

Not all members, perhaps, I might add. I think it is unreasonable to mention the 'no ID' fact.

How many people do you know who go out without money on them, sometimes contained in a wallet.

The article fails to mention if he had money on his person and if you're riding an expensive machine as he was, wouldn't most people have reserve money on them?

It is reasonable to speculate whether the guy had had money on him when the accident occured.

This is a forum. Why get so 'offended' by what others write?

But help yourself if you are offended by my comments, OK

Don't forget your wallet when you go out .............!

There's always one goody two shoes/teachers pet type on every forum. I think they actually get off on being holier than thou.

[Blumpie 4322]

13 minutes ago, Freddy42OZ said:

Nowhere does it mention the type of bike. 

Could it be you are confusing this British guy with the American who crashed his Ducati?

Also, a scooter they frequently calla motorcycle when it's under the 500cc limit so it is legal in some countries to operate these.  

Anyways, it doesn't really matter does it in the long run?  

[Cricky 1744]

1 hour ago, ukrules said:

You were the one who blamed the victim, I pointed out that there are many questions to ask here.

It's the truth from the post I read.

 

Your comments just make a fiction novel, from the article.

This is childish.

 

Edited February 2 by Cricky

[soalbundy 21242]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

Not the best way to end a life, and tragically the family are left to suffer.

Let me be callously logical here, how are they suffering? What difference would it have made if they had known from day one when he had died? People die all the time, 61 was a bit early but he was having a good time, millions die due to really tragic circumstances, starvation as a child, torture, war, hypothermia, poverty in general. Why must Granddad be brought back home? He's dead, he doesn't care where he is; just to put his urn containing his ashes on the shelf and then life goes on. Storm in a tea cup.

[RichardColeman 59287]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

Not the best way to end a life, 

But quick,  not many of us will enjoy the length of our demise !